Top 5 reasons why XBL's $50 is worth paying for.

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

Wait , so why do I want pay for XBL ? So M$ can have more of money ? Or so I can listen to Soulja Boi blaring into my headset ?

That's 14 million gold and silver subscribers.  They don't have 14 million people paying them $50 a year.

Nice try though.

Wait , so why do I want pay for XBL ? So M$ can have more of money ? Or so I can listen to Soulja Boi blaring into my headset ?

ps3wizard45

Both, there is no other justification for paying for XBL other than my top 5 reasons..

That's 14 million gold and silver subscribers. They don't have 14 million people paying them $50 a year.

Nice try though.

Zhengi

Lets say there is 10M gold members, thats $500M a year.

Its just money, spend $4 less a month on something else (fast food etc.) and you have your xbox live all paid for. if you give up fast food, xbox live is more effective than wii fit :Pbirdman2111

That is a solid reason also :lol:

Wait , so why do I want pay for XBL ? So M$ can have more of money ? Or so I can listen to Soulja Boi blaring into my headset ?

 

ps3wizard45

I'd say paying $299 for having Soulja Boy blaring into your headset, is better than paying $699 and having Soulja Boy blaring into your TV Sound System. Plus MS is pretty much worldwide, while Sony keeps to small areas, instead of focusing on dropping the price of their product anywhere but in Japan.

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That's 14 million gold and silver subscribers. They don't have 14 million people paying them $50 a year.

Nice try though.

credibilityzero

Lets say there is 10M gold members, thats $500M a year.

Who's to say that that 10 million gold member figure is correct?  What if it was closer to 5 million gold members instead?  :)

MS should give us exact figures instead of combining the two.  If the install base is at 21 million, it could mean that those who don't pay for online gaming can range from 7 million to 16 million.

I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

credibilityzero

bahahahahahahahaha.

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

Hewkii

bahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah they had to take out their cheque book instead of reaching into their wallet, what a hassle :P 

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

That's 14 million gold and silver subscribers. They don't have 14 million people paying them $50 a year.

Nice try though.

Zhengi

Lets say there is 10M gold members, thats $500M a year.

Who's to say that that 10 million gold member figure is correct? What if it was closer to 5 million gold members instead? :)

MS should give us exact figures instead of combining the two. If the install base is at 21 million, it could mean that those who don't pay for online gaming can range from 7 million to 16 million.

Lets say there are 8M ok, thats $400M.

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

Hewkii

bahahahahahahahaha.

Fans of 360 shows alot of support and love for MS, I mean Sony fanboys don't know why we pay $50 and here I clarified it.

We showed them how much power consuming the PS3 is and still they didn't know why we pay for it.

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

credibilityzero

no

when is the last time the 360 stole a game from the ps3? and i don't mean now they both have it.. i mean MH3 in terms of stealing

i can't believe you're supporting paying for something which should be free in the first place, because it supports them fixing the system which shouldnt've been broke in the first place

anyone see the snake eating its own tail logic here?

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

-Mad_Rhetoric-

barley is for beer, that 4.50 could better go towards some beer...

XBL is not worth a dime when you can play PC games online for free

4.50 adds up when it's a luxury you could be getting for free in the first place, it's not the price its the principal

do most of you XBL supporters pay for your own accounts even

You're number one reason is that MS makes more money, which helps them recoup losses for broken hardware that they shoveled onto their customers?

I like the 360 too, but give me a break.

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

angry_fork

You don't even know what is the meaning of support then, start paying for PSN to get the games you want.

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

voxware00

barley is for beer, that 4.50 could better go towards some beer...

XBL is not worth a dime when you can play PC games online for free

4.50 adds up when it's a luxury you could be getting for free in the first place, it's not the price its the principal

do most of you XBL supporters pay for your own accounts even

Beer would end up killing you, XBL won't. Besides, PSN is a free service, and look at the amount of complaints it's getting.

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

-Mad_Rhetoric-

$4.50 per month is something buddy but Im willing to sacrifice it for XBL if it means better gaming for me and supporting MS.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

credibilityzero

You don't even know what is the meaning of support then, start paying for PSN to get the games you want.

Better yet, have Sony stop wasting time and money overhyping the next mediocre product and put the money into research and development and maybe they may finally get a clue...

Unfortunately my live is crap right now for no reason so it's hard for me to see why I'm paying $50 a year for it.Snowboarder99

Just have faith in MS like me and your online will be fixed shortly.

[QUOTE="Snowboarder99"]Unfortunately my live is crap right now for no reason so it's hard for me to see why I'm paying $50 a year for it.credibilityzero

Just have faith in MS like me and your online will be fixed shortly.

I'm waiting for the update, if it's still bad then I'm going to call MS.  I like talking to the surfer dude.

Five Reasons why we shouldnt have to pay for LIVE.

1. Its full of ads that companies paid for it to be there

2. Every single extra content companies paid in order for it to be there

3. There are ads

4.Sometimes poor laggy gameplay

5. There are ads.

[QUOTE="voxware00"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

stappy

barley is for beer, that 4.50 could better go towards some beer...

XBL is not worth a dime when you can play PC games online for free

4.50 adds up when it's a luxury you could be getting for free in the first place, it's not the price its the principal

do most of you XBL supporters pay for your own accounts even

Beer would end up killing you, XBL won't. Besides, PSN is a free service, and look at the amount of complaints it's getting.

XBL will kill me if it takes food from my mouth, which is what both beer and XBL do.. so i'm straight edge.. don't touch beer or xbl for financial reasons

besides, pc online is a free service, and look how much acclaim it's getting not to mention it attracts modders

i'd rather develop a hobby from multiplayer gaming like modding rather than get stuck in the fantasy of an online virtual world where no progress is made besides your experience.. thankfully i'm past my multiplayer phase

XBL bothers me because it's like seeing people stuck in the 80s.. lemmings who wish they had the tech knowledge to build a pc and be hermits, bragging about their online meanwhile to pc gamers its like watching somebody use one of those 80s gigantic zach morris' cell phones and brag about how it only cost $4.50 a minute

"If you want to play online with your 360, you will pay." Or you'll see the scam for what it is, and feel sad that half your consoles library is intentionally crippled.. especially considering theres not that many exclusive lengthy single player games

and MS realizes they didn't make gold appealing enough.. so what do they do, cripple silver so gold looks even better because "hey you get free demos sooner!" that's not making your online service better, that's making your standard console look ****

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

-Mad_Rhetoric-

thats not the point. The point that you shouldnt have to pay at all. Put the 4.50 to something else.

I always find it funny that the people who are pissed the most about XBL fees are the people who don't plan on paying them or who don't even own a 360. I don't try to see more or less what/where the money goes to or whatever it's very simple:  If you want to play online with your 360, you will pay. But here are some things to try to soften the blow if the $50 is too much for you to handle:

1. Buy a 1-year membership cards w/ your income tax check. Works for me, plus mine are usually big enough where that doesn't affect me at all.

2. Request one from someone in your family during Christmas.  Either that or a $50 gift card to wherever they sell XBL cards.

3. Make or utilize your shady friends.  We all have a couple who can get things a number of different ways, why not?

4. Choose your gaming selection wisely.  This year I personally have brought 4 games that if I hadn't played, I'd be a better person for it. $240 right there flushed, and only made back about $140 of it through selling and trading. That's damn near 5 years of XBL, and I know a great deal of people brought at least 1 game they hated at full price. $60 right there.

If that doesn't work save up to get your PC upgraded or trade-in your 360 and its games for a PS3, only to *****when your favorite franchise comes to 360 or you get a gimped port on PS3.

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

 

 

credibilityzero

Making NXE free, why the heck should it even costs if it were too? A firmware update is not suppose to cost money..Think about that..But I guess you didn't.  You know MS has some positions open, you should check out.....

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

voxware00

barley is for beer, that 4.50 could better go towards some beer...

XBL is not worth a dime when you can play PC games online for free

4.50 adds up when it's a luxury you could be getting for free in the first place, it's not the price its the principal

do most of you XBL supporters pay for your own accounts even

hey think about this, with the economy in such bad shape right now and Sony doesn't make users pay for on-line games, which means that they are losing money in that part of the PS3, while paying 50$ per years with a great market place, the new X-Box live experience coming out soon, Many games that was once PS exclusives now coming for the X-Box and online money to keep them afloat for longer, especially since most consumer will not be paying much money for high cost boy toys like the Sony brands this holiday because they are worry about there money. Who you think would be doing better after chistmas?????? 

I laughed hard at #1, that made my evening. :lol:DementedDragon

Just imagine what happened that day to Bill Gates? Im sure he was crying on his bed and was very hurt.

[QUOTE="voxware00"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]

$4.50 per month is barly anything

XBL is worth every penny

shemrom

barley is for beer, that 4.50 could better go towards some beer...

XBL is not worth a dime when you can play PC games online for free

4.50 adds up when it's a luxury you could be getting for free in the first place, it's not the price its the principal

do most of you XBL supporters pay for your own accounts even

hey think about this, with the economy in such bad shape right now and Sony doesn't make users pay for on-line games, which means that they are losing money in that part of the PS3, while paying 50$ per years with a great market place, the new X-Box live s coming out soon, Many games that was once PS exclusives now coming for the X-Box and online money to keep them afloat for longer, especially since most consumer will not be paying much money for high cost boy toys like the Sony brands this holiday because they are worry about there money. Who you think would be doing better after chistmas?????? 

if that was the case then PSN will invite companies to advertise that will help with their "loses". You know, who those same ads that are on LIVE that already helps MS "stay atfloat longer".

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"] I laughed hard at #1, that made my evening. :lol:credibilityzero

Just imagine what happened that day to Bill Gates? Im sure he was crying on his bed and was very hurt.

so we should feel sorry and help fix his mistake?

if that was the case then PSN will invite companies to advertise that will help with their "loses". You know, who those same ads that are on LIVE that already helps MS "stay atfloat longer".

Tjeremiah1988

yes your right, but we don't see as much on the PSN now do we???

I knew we are all blabbing about why we hate or love the Online services, but both Micrsoft and Sony are felling the pinch this season. In the end they both are going to be hurt

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"] I laughed hard at #1, that made my evening.:lol:Tjeremiah1988

Just imagine what happened that day to Bill Gates? Im sure he was crying on his bed and was very hurt.

so we should feel sorry and help fix his mistake?

I was trying to justify paying for live and you ruined it.

I was trying to justify paying for live and you ruined it.

credibilityzero

Heh, you must be joking, they deserve every recoup loss they get in terms of hardware failure.  They made the system so it's their issue, not ours.  Granted, the money we pay for the Live service in theory could be helping their recoup woes, but not largely I imagine.

Hardly a reason to why XBL is worth paying for.

[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

I was trying to justify paying for live and you ruined it.

DementedDragon

Heh, you must be joking, they deserve every recoup loss they get in terms of hardware failure. They made the system so it's their issue, not ours. Granted, the money we pay for the Live service in theory could be helping their recoup woes, but not largely I imagine.

Hardly a reason to why XBL is worth paying for.

You ruined my life, how could I justify paying for XBL ? :P

There are 14M users for XBL this year, lets do the math, 14M x $50 = $700M, this is a bit of exaggerating so lets say it is between $400M to $500M annually.

1- Paying for online play makes MS recoup their losses much faster and easier, I mean $1B for extended warranty was too much for MS to handle.

2- Make better marketing, with $500M every year, throwing $10M for their games makes even average games sell which is better for developers we do care about.

3- Making it easy for MS to snatch exclusives from the competition.

4- Again, it is easier for them to slash their console prices.

5- makes the NXE free to download.

Sony should follow their footsteps with PSN.

 

 

credibilityzero

Is there any benefits for gamers or just for M$?

Wait , so why do I want pay for XBL ? So M$ can have more of money ? Or so I can listen to Soulja Boi blaring into my headset ?

 

ps3wizard45

Back button, highlight name, mute. I really dont get why people complain about that.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

Wait , so why do I want pay for XBL ? So M$ can have more of money ? Or so I can listen to Soulja Boi blaring into my headset ?

 

Ninja-Hippo

Back button, highlight name, mute. I really dont get why people complain about that.

in some games like GTA, its hard to see whos actually talking once the game starts.