Thief 4... Rut Row Raggy. For the modern audience of today's console market.

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#1 SecretPolice
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I don't think this bodes well for the purist though perhaps all will be fine & dandy or at least I hope so.

Freakin consolites ruin everything - of course I kid a lil. :P

What say you?

The Story.

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Thief 4 hero Garrett less "gothic", more "mainstream"

"For the modern audience of today's console market."

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Eidos Montreal has redesigned Thief hero Garrett. He's less "gothic" and more "mainstream", or so we're told. But the key-art of a pasty-faced, black-eyed Garrett looks plenty like a goth to me.

"In the beginning, in the conception, we had carte blanche to completely restart a new design of Garrett," explained game director Nicolas Cantin to GameInformer. "We wanted to keep the main DNA of who Garrett was. We didn't want to change that much because it was kind of working already."

The original Thief games - the first released in 1998 - "have a slightly different flavour", added narrative designer Steve Gallanger. "Time's moved on."

"We wanted to bring him more for the modern audience of today's console market," Cantin carried on. "He's now in the game doing more action moves and that's how we wanted the costume and the suit to reflect that.

"In the beginning he was kind of more gothic; we turned down all the things that feel more gothic. For example: black nails and things like that - we don't have that any more. We want to make him a little bit more mainstream on that.

"But yes, he's a dark character, but we don't want really to say he's a gothic one, even though the Victorian period feels really gothic."

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Garrett was an odd sausage in the original Thief games, an orphan turned thief turned betrayer that lost an eye. He preferred not to kill, although he did.

It doesn't sound like his personality has changed much. Gallagher said Garrett doesn't trust other people or talk to them, although he talks a lot to himself. He's a funny guy, he added, but he doesn't crack jokes.

Cantin likened Garrett's anti-hero style to that of the Joker (Heath Ledger) and The Crow (Brandon Lee). Judging by their popularity, Cantin believes Garrett is "in a good direction".

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#2 freedomfreak
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Cue the whining.
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#3 Goyoshi12
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Cue the whining.freedomfreak

*whine*

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#4 campzor
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i blame those hermits, always casualizing everything.
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Thief 4 hero Garrett less "gothic", more "mainstream" "For the modern audience of today's console market."

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :evil:

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#6 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Cue the whining.freedomfreak
*whines*
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#7 KiZZo1
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looks like an emo ...

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#8 Clock-w0rk
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My homeboi Sniper's not gonna like this yo.

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#10 faizan_faizan
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Another game ruined thanks to consoles.
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#11 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Cue the whining.blue_hazy_basic
*whines*

Not the precious!!! They stole the precious!!! [spoiler]  [/spoiler]
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#12 Goyoshi12
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Another game ruined thanks to consoles.faizan_faizan

Was already

On consoles, mate.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Cue the whining.freedomfreak
*whines*

Not the precious!!! They stole the precious!!! [spoiler]  [/spoiler]

:lol:
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#14 SecretPolice
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Cue the whining.freedomfreak
And the cheese...

anchorman-cheese-funny-lol-quote-Favimco

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#15 nintendoboy16
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He still looks like he can hide in the darkness well, so what's the problem here? It's nowhere near as bad as say Spyro's redesign for Skylanders.

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#16 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Cue the whining.SecretPolice

And the cheese...

:lol: Great movie. That movie wasn't consolized though, hence the high quality.

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#17 ultraking
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Well Fvck that. im mad as hell right now. WTF are they thinking?!?!? [spoiler] I really don't care since ive never played a thief game before [/spoiler]

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#18 BrunoBRS
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fun fact, the whole video the article is based on talks about garrett's looks, not the gameplay. but fans will whine that garrett doesn't paint his nails black anymore or some sh!t, so i'll just leave this here: [QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the fact that garrett paints his fingernails is the only thing that made me connect to him. i thought, "here's one smart metrosexual thief, he understands the importance of treated nails". became a fan instantly. but now? i can't see that connection. i mean, there are no painted nails. how can i like him? this is a complete betrayal to the series.

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#19 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Another game ruined thanks to consoles.Goyoshi12

Was already

On consoles, mate.

Like i didn't know. It wasn't TARGETED at console audience though. Hey isn't your "week" over?
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#20 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Like i didn't know. It wasn't TARGETED at console audience though.

Why does it matter though? This article refers to Garrett's looks.
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#21 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Another game ruined thanks to consoles.faizan_faizan

Was already

On consoles, mate.

Like i didn't know. It wasn't TARGETED at console audience though. Hey isn't your "week" over?

I still have

10 hours to go.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Like i didn't know. It wasn't TARGETED at console audience though.

Why does it matter though? This article refers to Garrett's looks.

if i may quote myself... [QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the fact that garrett paints his fingernails is the only thing that made me connect to him. i thought, "here's one smart metrosexual thief, he understands the importance of treated nails". became a fan instantly. but now? i can't see that connection. i mean, there are no painted nails. how can i like him? this is a complete betrayal to the series.

damn consolites and their lack of nail polish.
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I have high hopes for it, Deus Ex: HR turned out pretty well afterall.

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#24 freedomfreak
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I understand your grief, Bruno. I'm already working on a petition to undo this. This is wrong on so many levels. If the petition doesn't work, me and millions of other fans will boycott this. Taking away our black painted fingernails just like that? No, just no.
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#25 Heil68
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Thief 4 hero Garrett less "gothic", more "mainstream" "For the modern audience of today's console market."

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :evil:

blue_hazy_basic
 Thanks consolites..
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#26 ChubbyGuy40
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I'd say I jumped ship after reading this but I was never on it. Garret is supposed to be a thief, not an assassin.

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#27 Sagem28
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Whats say you, SNIPER ?

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Cue the whining.freedomfreak

And the cheese...

:lol: Great movie. That movie wasn't consolized though, hence the high quality.

I preferred the original from Kazakhstan without the comedy and of course no subtitles.

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#29 freedomfreak
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Whats say you, SNIPER ?

Sagem28
Actually, he likes the look of this Garrett. The developers must be doing something wrong.
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#30 Arach666
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It´s the gameplay part that worries me,not some small visual differences.
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#31 call_of_duty_10
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#32 ChubbyGuy40
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It´s the gameplay part that worries me,not some small visual differences.Arach666

I bet it'll be about redemption and a woman so consolites think he's more human/relatable.

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#33 freedomfreak
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I preferred the original from Kazakhstan without the comedy and of course no subtitles.blue_hazy_basic
:lol: Now that was a proper movie..erhem..film
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#34 Goyoshi12
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Whats say you, SNIPER ?

Sagem28

Well,

Garret's not

A woman or an

Anime looking character.

I think he'll love it.

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#35 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]It´s the gameplay part that worries me,not some small visual differences.ChubbyGuy40

I bet it'll be about redemption and a woman so consolites think he's more human/relatable.

Because

That has to

Do with Gameplay.

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#36 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Whats say you, SNIPER ?

freedomfreak

Actually, he likes the look of this Garrett. The developers must be doing something wrong.

I know, that's what confuses me.

SNIPER likes the mainstream look ? icon_scratch.png

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#37 freedomfreak
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I know, that's what confuses me.

SNIPER likes the mainstream look ? icon_scratch.png

Sagem28
Our universe contains less mysteries than Sniper.
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#38 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]I know, that's what confuses me.

SNIPER likes the mainstream look ? icon_scratch.png

freedomfreak

Our universe contains less mysteries than Sniper.

No argument there.

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#39 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Whats say you, SNIPER ?

Sagem28

Actually, he likes the look of this Garrett. The developers must be doing something wrong.

I know, that's what confuses me.

SNIPER likes the mainstream look ? icon_scratch.png

He likes

The big, gruff, strong

Military men in games like

Metro and STALKER. He's not as

Mainstream inept as one might be lead

On to believe.

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#40 ultraking
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sniper likes the look because the dude is covering his face
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the fact that garrett paints his fingernails is the only thing that made me connect to him. i thought, "here's one smart metrosexual thief, he understands the importance of treated nails". became a fan instantly. but now? i can't see that connection. i mean, there are no painted nails. how can i like him? this is a complete betrayal to the series.BrunoBRS

"We wanted to bring him more for the modern audience of today's console market," Cantin carried on. "He's now in the game doing more action moves and that's how we wanted the costume and the suit to reflect that.


Well the red seems to be referring to gameplay, so yeah. It's obviously a bit more action oriented for the console audience, and I don't mind that at all.

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#42 Epak_
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looks like an emo ...

KiZZo1

He looks like someone from the Fable series.

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#43 call_of_duty_10
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Guys,just because sniper dislikes mainstream games does not mean that he dislikes mainstream guys too.

He likes Garett,which means he likes mainstream guys.

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#44 Goyoshi12
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Guys,just because sniper dislikes mainstream games does not mean that he dislikes mainstream guys too.

He likes Garett,which means he likes mainstream guys.

call_of_duty_10

SNIPER

Likes manly men:

Confirmed.

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#45 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Was already

On consoles, mate.

Goyoshi12

Like i didn't know. It wasn't TARGETED at console audience though. Hey isn't your "week" over?

I still have

10 hours to go.

Good luck
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#46 locopatho
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He looks about as "gothic"/"emo" as any character I've ever seen :? Thin, androgynous, black leather outfit, black eyeliner... Short of playing some My Chemical Romance every time he's on screen, how the hell could you make him more emo?
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

looks like an emo ...

Epak_

He looks like someone from the Fable series.

Hmm, perhaps..

fable.jpg

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

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[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

looks like an emo ...

SecretPolice

He looks like someone from the Fable series.

Hmm, perhaps..

fable.jpg

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz
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#49 locopatho
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Epak_"]

He looks like someone from the Fable series.

Heil68

Hmm, perhaps..

 

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz

It says better with Kinect right there on the cover. FACT :P

Mass-Effect-3-Xbox-360-Box-Art_0-650x650

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Hmm, perhaps..

 

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

locopatho

How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz

It says better with Kinect right there on the cover. FACT :P

Mass-Effect-3-Xbox-360-Box-Art_0-650x650

has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?