The very simple reason why high resolution matters ALOT!!

Console gamers say 720p is enough and complaining about it is a superficial thing, well it's not cuz it's a big deal.

Lets get something straight first. You can have the biggest and the baddest TV around but the experience of playing upclose on a high quality PC monitor is unmatched and this is something only possible on powerful hardware which consoles dont possess. As long as you are playing on a screen bigger than 17", a resolution like 720p will not let you sit very close to the screen or else it'll become a pixelated mess, upscaling is not going to do the job either, when sitting close to a display the difference between native and upscaled image is day and night.

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

Normal people do not "sit very close" to their TVs. In fact, the advantage of having a relatively big TV is not having to "sit very close" to it.

Console gamers say 720p is enough and complaining about it is a superficial thing, well it's not cuz it's a big deal.

Lets get something straight first. You can have the biggest and the baddest TV around but the experience of playing upclose on a high quality PC monitor is unmatched and this is something only possible on powerful hardware which consoles dont possess. As long as you are playing on a screen bigger than 17", a resolution like 720p will not let you sit very close to the screen or else it'll become a pixelated mess, upscaling is not going to do the job either, when sitting close to a display the difference between native and upscaled image is day and night.

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

lol what are you talking about

thanksim selling my ps3 and 360 right away, then ill buy a computer so i can post the specs in my sig!

lol what are you talking about

2-10-08

sometimes it helps to read and understand the original post so you dont accedentally post something that completly confirms everything that was said without realizing it.

I see a huge difference going from 720p to 1680x1050.

There are so many jagged lines and crap.

At 1680x1050 it looks a lot smoother.

lol what are you talking about

2-10-08

I still prefer to sit further away from the screen and I experience both (46-inch 720p TV and 24-inch 1920x1200 monitor).

The very simple reason why high resolution matters ALOT!!

BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY!

Ya keep fretting over that... I'm playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 with someone at 480p resolution on a 48" TV. Like normal people we are sitting on a couch over 10 feet away from the TV... I know from looking closely it's very jaggy, but from a normal playing distance, back on a couch where I want to be, I can't see any jaggies. I've played games on PC at ridiculously high resolutions and it looked no better than this and was less comfortable.

Playing on a small monitor, up close, at a high resolution, is just another way to produce the same effect as 10 feet back on a big TV with slightly lower resolution.

I see a huge difference going from 720p to 1680x1050.

There are so many jagged lines and crap.

At 1680x1050 it looks a lot smoother.

Hakkai007

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

lowe0

But for shooters and action games, a big tv just doesnt give the same immersiveness....

Also it seems like your TV is a high quality product and monitor is just decent, obviously in such a case the TV will have better picture quality. Try some LED 24" monitor and see what happens.;)

Ya keep fretting over that... I'm playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 with someone at 480p resolution on a 48" TV. Like normal people we are sitting on a couch over 10 feet away from the TV... I know from looking closely it's very jaggy, but from a normal playing distance, back on a couch where I want to be, I can't see any jaggies. I've played games on PC at ridiculously high resolutions and it looked no better than this and was less comfortable.

Playing on a small monitor, up close, at a high resolution, is just another way to produce the same effect as 10 feet back on a big TV with slightly lower resolution.

oldkingallant

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

Gambler_3

But for shooters and action games, a big tv just doesnt give the same immersiveness....

Also it seems like your TV is a high quality product and monitor is just decent, obviously in such a case the TV will have better picture quality. Try some LED 24" monitor and see what happens.;)

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Okay, since I have experienced it, and continue to have the opportunity to experience it (since I have SLI'd GTX 260s and a decent 22" Samsung LCD monitor), am I allowed to offer my opinion? "Eh, it's nice." *goes back to playing PS3 on his 55" Samsung LCD TVlowe0

But for shooters and action games, a big tv just doesnt give the same immersiveness....

Also it seems like your TV is a high quality product and monitor is just decent, obviously in such a case the TV will have better picture quality. Try some LED 24" monitor and see what happens.;)

Trying playing a game in 1680x1050 then switch to 800x600 and tell me you don't notice a big difference.....

I noticed a big difference switching from 1440x900 to 1680x1024 in Metro 2033.

Consoles gamers cannot understand how important is the resolution for games.
I use to play games at 1280x1024 in 2001!!! And now Consol gamers play games at 1280x720(and some times at 1024x600) in the year 2010!!!(One decade behind pc gamers):shock:

The last few years I play all my games at 1920x1200 and soon I am going to by a 2560x1600 monitor:)

Its funny how many "Harcore" PC gamers talk about resolution being a "BIG DEAL" and fiddling with their PC and spending time on a forum preaching to people that don't give a **** when instead they could be playing their Superior game experiences. Typical PC elitists.

Sniping_Crowbar

So...someone can't afford a HDTV?

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

lol what are you talking about

Funconsole

Its funny how many "Harcore" PC gamers talk about resolution being a "BIG DEAL" and fiddling with their PC and spending time on a forum preaching to people that don't give a **** when instead they could be playing their Superior game experiences. Typical PC elitists.

Sniping_Crowbar

I agree. my Samsung 23" LED 1920x1080p 5,000,000:1 2ms response time monitor is just incredible when I play my PC games, but when I switch over to PS3 games I have to sit further away, because I notice the image looks pixelated, washed out and jaggy.

[QUOTE="Funconsole"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

lol what are you talking about

2-10-08

Most people sit far enough from their HDTV to have the optimal 720p view. But that still doesnt change the fact that higher resolution = better. Check out the 4k2k HDTVs.

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Its funny how many "Harcore" PC gamers talk about resolution being a "BIG DEAL" and fiddling with their PC and spending time on a forum preaching to people that don't give a **** when instead they could be playing their Superior game experiences. Typical PC elitists.

lundy86_4

Same could be said for certain console users posting on this forum about how their game looks slightly better than the others. Typical console elitists.

Why make such an ignorant remark?

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Its funny how many "Harcore" PC gamers talk about resolution being a "BIG DEAL" and fiddling with their PC and spending time on a forum preaching to people that don't give a **** when instead they could be playing their Superior game experiences. Typical PC elitists.

SamiRDuran

Why aren't you?

Umm well becaseu the TC is spewing spit all over his monitor about How resolution is sucha "BIG" deal yadda yadda, but honestly it really doesn't matter what res you play at as long as the game is really good, small things like a games resolution shouldn't really matter. People like the TC and others ive seen in theis site talk and talk and bash consoles for having low res graphics and everything, and post threads about how they are right and that people that are playing on consoles have bad experiences becaseu the res isnt as high as a PC. Well a derp derp i better go throw out my SD tv and my entire DVD collection becaseu i guess after years of enjoying games and movies based on their gamplay merits is massive diaper because i couldn't play or watch a movie at 1080p. that is the reason for my "ignorant Remark'. Oh yes and console gamers that say their games look better Are Sony fanboys not all console gamers. anyways cheers.

Sniping_Crowbar

Seems you only see sides of things that suit your argument, eh? There are plenty of console owners on here that go on and on about how they have a slightly higher resolution game, yet you single out PC gamers alone. Seems to me you just hold a grudge for some unknown reason.

Furthermore you limit console gamers that say their games look better to solely Sony fanboys. You're just pulling out more ignorant comments as that's obviously not the case on this board. All fanboy groups are guilty of it (well, besides Sheep).

This is System Wars, what do you expect to find here? People debate the finer points and it's not always pretty. That's the point.

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Umm well becaseu the TC is spewing spit all over his monitor about How resolution is sucha "BIG" deal yadda yadda, but honestly it really doesn't matter what res you play at as long as the game is really good, small things like a games resolution shouldn't really matter. People like the TC and others ive seen in theis site talk and talk and bash consoles for having low res graphics and everything, and post threads about how they are right and that people that are playing on consoles have bad experiences becaseu the res isnt as high as a PC. Well a derp derp i better go throw out my SD tv and my entire DVD collection becaseu i guess after years of enjoying games and movies based on their gamplay merits is massive diaper because i couldn't play or watch a movie at 1080p. that is the reason for my "ignorant Remark'. Oh yes and console gamers that say their games look better Are Sony fanboys not all console gamers. anyways cheers.

lundy86_4

Seems you only see sides of things that suit your argument, eh? There are plenty of console owners on here that go on and on about how they have a slightly higher resolution game, yet you single out PC gamers alone. Seems to me you just hold a grudge for some unknown reason.

Furthermore you limit console gamers that say their games look better to solely Sony fanboys. You're just pulling out more ignorant comments as that's obviously not the case on this board. All fanboy groups are guilty of it (well, besides Sheep).

This is System Wars, what do you expect to find here? People debate the finer points and it's not always pretty. That's the point.

So far the only Fanboys ive seen on here that have said their games look better than PC are Sony fanboys or cows as some people call them on here. Ive seen so many friggin Uncharted 2 vs Crysis debates its rediculous. I have never seen on here seen anybody preaching about how Halo is the graphics kings over the PCS!! or GEARS 2 is NEXT gen and kills PC GAMING!! ok yeah I have never seen those. I would assume there were tons of those say maybe 5 years ago whne 360 first came out when Consoles made a huge jumo in graphics tech somewhat close to PC at that time. But Recently its all been Sony fanboys. And I don't have a grudge against PC gamers it just annoys me to see PC elitists talk and complain about resolution when people that play on consoles don't really mind the res and jaggies in some ofthe games. Its the price people pay for convenience.

Sniping_Crowbar

I wasn't talking about PC in regards to that point. I was talking about Cows and Lemmings debating over which games have better graphics (regularly), and when one comes out with a higher resolution all hell breaks loose (ala Alan Wake, Bayonetta etc).

You talk about PC "elitists" complaining about resolution, and that console gamers don't care about resolution, but what do you base these assumptions on? Any statistical evidence?

Console gamers say 720p is enough and complaining about it is a superficial thing, well it's not cuz it's a big deal.

Lets get something straight first. You can have the biggest and the baddest TV around but the experience of playing upclose on a high quality PC monitor is unmatched and this is something only possible on powerful hardware which consoles dont possess. As long as you are playing on a screen bigger than 17", a resolution like 720p will not let you sit very close to the screen or else it'll become a pixelated mess, upscaling is not going to do the job either, when sitting close to a display the difference between native and upscaled image is day and night.

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

Gambler_3

While I agree with your general point, that higher resolution in games is always better...I have a 40 inch HDTV and it certainly does not look like a pixelated mess is I get close. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

So far the only Fanboys ive seen on here that have said their games look better than PC are Sony fanboys or cows as some people call them on here. Ive seen so many friggin Uncharted 2 vs Crysis debates its rediculous. I have never seen on here seen anybody preaching about how Halo is the graphics kings over the PCS!! or GEARS 2 is NEXT gen and kills PC GAMING!!

Sniping_Crowbar

You must have missed all the Alan Wake graphics king and AW looks better than Crysis threads made by that foliage obsessed guy...

And quite a few about Gears 3 and Reach as well.

[QUOTE="Funconsole"]

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lol what are you talking about

2-10-08

you clearly did not understand your own chart.

Replaying Xenosaga, I've found that SD games can look great in HD.

Honestly, its prob my lack of HD TV but I don't really care about resolution. I care about enjoyment.

So, this is it right? finally, the great purpose of HD is revealed, is here so you can sit closer in front of you damn TV, gees, i hope this is a joke thread, i really hope, i mean, seriously, sitting closer to the TV, SERIOUSLY???

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Its funny how many "Harcore" PC gamers talk about resolution being a "BIG DEAL" and fiddling with their PC and spending time on a forum preaching to people that don't give a **** when instead they could be playing their Superior game experiences. Typical PC elitists.

Sniping_Crowbar

Same could be said for certain console users posting on this forum about how their game looks slightly better than the others. Typical console elitists.

Why make such an ignorant remark?

Seems like you are putting words in my mouth, insecurity perhaps?

Gaming in higher resolution costs more money as well but this thread isnt directed to those who cant afford high-res gaming but for those who can but yet bash it!

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Console gamers say 720p is enough and complaining about it is a superficial thing, well it's not cuz it's a big deal.

Lets get something straight first. You can have the biggest and the baddest TV around but the experience of playing upclose on a high quality PC monitor is unmatched and this is something only possible on powerful hardware which consoles dont possess. As long as you are playing on a screen bigger than 17", a resolution like 720p will not let you sit very close to the screen or else it'll become a pixelated mess, upscaling is not going to do the job either, when sitting close to a display the difference between native and upscaled image is day and night.

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

ZIMdoom

While I agree with your general point, that higher resolution in games is always better...I have a 40 inch HDTV and it certainly does not look like a pixelated mess is I get close. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

I really enjoy both to be honest :D

I have a 46 in. Bravia LCD and I sit about 5 feet away from it, and I haven't noticed any games looking pixelated or anything. I know the display says 1080p on some of the 360 titles, but I hear a lot of them are only native 720p,either way they look outstanding! I have noticed once I hooked my son's up to his cpu monitor, then cranked up the resolution all the way up, it looked remarkable!! I just put a 50 in. DLP in his room, and the change from the 22in cpu monitor ,to the 50 tv does lower the picture a little, it still looks reasonable. Not that big of deal, but we all know that resolution comes hand in hand with graphics, and prettier eye candy can sell some games. I've been playing Uncharted 2 some lately and that game blows me away!

Normal people do not "sit very close" to their TVs. In fact, the advantage of having a relatively big TV is not having to "sit very close" to it.

LordQuorthon

Console gamers say 720p is enough and complaining about it is a superficial thing, well it's not cuz it's a big deal.

Lets get something straight first. You can have the biggest and the baddest TV around but the experience of playing upclose on a high quality PC monitor is unmatched and this is something only possible on powerful hardware which consoles dont possess. As long as you are playing on a screen bigger than 17", a resolution like 720p will not let you sit very close to the screen or else it'll become a pixelated mess, upscaling is not going to do the job either, when sitting close to a display the difference between native and upscaled image is day and night.

When your field of vision is almost completely occupied in the game and yet it looks crystal clear, that experience is simply unmatched and you cannot give an opinion about it without experiencing it. When you get used to it, trust me your comfy couch and 50" 1080p wont feel all that cool anymore...

Gambler_3

Actually, it is NO BIG DEAL. In fact, resolution is not even in the top three important criteria to look for in a tv. Your LCD (because they don't make plasmas in tiny 17 inch sizes) has a very low contrast,usually a much poorer color saturation, and most have much lower response times (4-6ms) which results in fast moving images blurring across the screen. My nice 60inch Pioneer Plasma has deep inky blacks, near perfect color saturation, perfect color accuracy, and it doesn't exhibit any motion blur at all.

According to the Imaging Science Foundation, a group that consults for home-theater manufacturers and trains professional video calibrators, the most important aspect of picture quality is contrast ratiothe second most important is color saturation, and the third is color accuracy. Resolution comes in fourth, despite being the most-cited HDTV specification. Source http://reviews.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/?tag=moreResources.1

There is a reason why I prefer my big screen...It is because it has a BETTER PICTURE!