The ULTIMATE LAIR - KAMEO comparisson

REAL INTERACTIVE WATER

DRAGON - MOUNTAIN TEXTURES ON KAMEO

REAL PARTICLE EFFECTS
 

REAL FORESTS - GRASS and ENEMIE TEXTURES

REAL SPECIAL EFFECTS - SHADERS

REAL HDR and GLOW EFFECTS

REAL WALL TEXTURES

REALLY BIG ARMIES

Some more, not only Kameo, but PD0 and Viva Pinata too

REAL GROUND TEXTURES
 

VIEW DISTANCE

TREES

ROCKS

WATER

HDR+REFLECTIONS
 

LIGHTING

POLYGONS - LIGHTING - SHADOWS

wow...pic overload :shock:

Edit: is that you, nasos? 

again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

legalize3

I think it's nasos 

Hhhhh Shiny! Everyone knows the Shinier the better.

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

the-very-best

Are you serious ?

Lair is a very good looking game, but most certainly not the best (graphically) looking upcoming game. 

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

fuzzysquash

I think it's nasos

oh that guy who claimed oblivion wont be on ps3

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24989878

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

the-very-best

Are you serious ??

Lair is a very good looking game, but best looking (graphically) it most certainly is not. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

Snugenz

Are you serious ??

Lair is a very good looking game, but best looking (graphically) it most certainly is not.

Yeah, I'm serious...I thought the general consensus was that Lair looks terrific. The game doesn't interest me at all though, not really into dragon combat.

For me, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, GT:HD, and Mass Effect are the only next gen games that have shocked me with how great their visuals are. 

Don't compare cartoon graphics to more realistic graphics that are harder to pull off than cartoony graphics.. you'll find that most people like the cartoony graphics simply because it's alot more colorful and shinyer and pretty compared to that of lairs. You may aswel throw some gears of war shots in there aswell and say kameo has better looking grapthics than gears..Dahaka-UK

Not really. The textures on Kameo are vastly better than any game out now. However, i would say i dont see the point in comparing a 360 launch game nearly two years old to a new PS3 game coming out this year, with a completely different artstyle. 

[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

the-very-best

Are you serious ??

Lair is a very good looking game, but best looking (graphically) it most certainly is not.

Yeah, I'm serious...I thought the general consensus was that Lair looks terrific. The game doesn't interest me at all though, not really into dragon combat.

For me, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, GT:HD, and Mass Effect are the only next gen games that have shocked me with how great their visuals are.

Well to each his own i suppose, i've nothing against the game but honestly i find the graphics underwhelming. Although i didnt think GeoW's graphics were anything amazing until i seen the game running on my own console/tv, so maybe i'd think differently if the situation was similar. 

Well if Lairs gameplay sukks as bad as Rare two latest efforts, then I will be ashamed.     But if the textures aren't quite as good in lair, but the games (unlike both rares latest efforts) are intersting, captivating & fun..Then I guess I'll forgive factor 5 for not having 2.5% better ground textures.  Roy_Drage

The thread is OBVIOSULY not about gameplay, but about how much garbage Lair looks comparing to a 2 year old launch 360 title !!!

Also if you want to go to gameplay, i would rather play Kameo or PD0, than a dragon air shooter, that game has me bored right now, imagine playing that

Also yo u should really play Viva Pianata, the gameplay would be like 100 times more addictive than either Lair's or Heavly Sword one

BTW has anyone got those 720p HS pics ? I want a second laugh at PS3 graphics

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

fuzzysquash

I think it's nasos

Seems you failed to see all pics, where i PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that Kameo has at least 2-4x the texture resolution of Lair, even witht the same view distance

Here, i found the other joke looking PS3 game, HS

Let's see now Mass Effect, the reason why FF13 looks totally unimpressive to me, at least in its PS3 form, i am sure on 360 would look equal to Mass Effect

WOW, PS3 impresses once more

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

Snugenz

Are you serious ??

Lair is a very good looking game, but best looking (graphically) it most certainly is not.

Yeah, I'm serious...I thought the general consensus was that Lair looks terrific. The game doesn't interest me at all though, not really into dragon combat.

For me, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, GT:HD, and Mass Effect are the only next gen games that have shocked me with how great their visuals are.

Well to each his own i suppose, i've nothing against the game but honestly i find the graphics underwhelming. Although i didnt think GeoW's graphics were anything amazing until i seen the game running on my own console/tv, so maybe i'd think differently if the situation was similar. 

he said graphical POWER. the amount happening in lair and the fact it still keeps decent graphics is what makes it impressive

 The comparison if for Lost Planet, but the same applies to all 360 games compared to LAIR.

So ok, at least you accept looks like garabge, but .. many things happen, nice

Kameo has huge armies and batles too you know though, and doe not have to look like garbage

Seems you failed to see all pics, where i PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that Kameo has at least 2-4x the texture resolution of Lair, even witht the same view distance

Here, i found the other joke looking PS3 game, HS

 

Let's see now Mass Effect, the reason why FF13 looks totally unimpressive to me, at least in its PS3 form, i am sure on 360 would look equal to Mass Effect

 

WOW, PS3 impresses once more

greg_splicer

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro.  Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

R&C > Kameo. 

So ok, at least you accept looks like garabge, but .. many things happen, nice

Kameo has huge armies and batles too you know though, and doe not have to look like garbage

greg_splicer

Dude Kameo's armies all share the SAME ai and animation routines making them less power demanding, LAIRS are all independant. 

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro.  Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

 

R&C > Kameo. 

SergeantSnitch

Clearly R&C look worst than Kameo by a HUGE margin

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro. Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

 

R&C > Kameo.

greg_splicer

Clearly R&C look worst than Kameo by a HUGE margin

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

fuzzysquash

I think it's nasos 

MMMmm, that would explain the rabid fanboy comments every time he posts.

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro.  Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

 

R&C > Kameo. 

SergeantSnitch

1) how can compare a game out with a game come out in july

2) if panzor dragoon orta can get a 9.0 so can lair

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro. Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

 

R&C > Kameo.

SergeantSnitch

R&C > Every upcoming game evar.

Your all forgetting the big picture here.... is Kameo any fun.... no it isnt... its a pile of doo doo... Is Lair fun? yep looks like it.. .Dahaka-UK

debatable...

if i had a PS3, i wouldnt buy it, it looks boring (you may have a different opinion though) 

the more pics you show on Kameo, the more i think Lair will pwn it.

i'm not saying Kameo graphics is bad, its quite stunning. but you've failed. you know why? cause you never take into consideration how vast the world in Lair is, you fly on a dragon in a 25 miles X 25 miles world, (said by the developer) well, try to top that.

Game13a13y, you do realise you are TOTALLY wrong ?

At each given time, Lair does not render THE WHOLE 25x25 in full detail, in fact at each frame Kameo TOTALLY DESTROYS what Lair shows, totally and utterly !!!!

So, what does 25x25KM mean ? Nothing, when only a fraction smaller than what Kameo renders is rendered on PS3 ...

Hope you uderstand what i am saying, and check up the term LOD (Level of Detail) on google too, will help you understand

Plus Kameo has some HUGE draw distance and visibility without scrifices, and a huge army like 10 times the one at Lair

Lair looks far more boring than Kameo, where at least you could explore, than only shoot fireballs, that is a 8/10 game MAX if not lower

The point of the thread is that it looks like garbage comparing to a LAUNCH 360 game, same with R&C, the lighting and vegetation, and surroundings look like a bad joke, the characters while do look good, still are nothing really special

greg are one funny guy  you are judging a game that come  out in november to a game that hasn't come out yetflashattackfina

Come on now, do not be harse, i do not think Lair weill be further downgraded, so the comparisson is ok to do now

I think this is trhe last stage of downgradethis game has gone through, won't get any worst, after all the engine is 100% ready, since it is about to release, you do not suggest they are still making the core engine a few months from release ?

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Personally, I think Kameo's artstyle is far superior to Lair's but Lair is probably the best looking upcoming game for consoles in terms of graphical power.

Snugenz

Are you serious ?

Lair is a very good looking game, but most certainly not the best (graphically) looking upcoming game. 

Yeah it is, did you see the huge draw distance and amazing water effects? not to mention incredible physics, when you cut a rhino's head off you can actually see all the meat of the head and the blood still spilling, and the head doesnt just stop moving after you cut it off, it flies off depending on how strong you are and etc... but i think ME beats lair, if only by a little bit.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

You're seriously once of the most obnoxious fanboys, bro. Do you have anything better to do than to post screenshot comparisons of a game that isn't even out yet with screens of other games that aren't even in the same genre?

I can do that too.

 

R&C > Kameo.

greg_splicer

Clearly R&C look worst than Kameo by a HUGE margin

  I feel sorry for this guy, but not really.  

The TC is an idiot. he didint even post good pics of Lair. heres some that blows every single kameo pic and whatsoever out of th water.

did panzor dragoon orta and saga flop without Mp or online and being short you fail lemmings

Game13a13y, you do realise you are TOTALLY wrong ?

At each given time, Lair does not render THE WHOLE 25x25 in full detail, in fact at each frame Kameo TOTALLY DESTROYS what Lair shows, totally and utterly !!!!

So, what does 25x25KM mean ? Nothing, when only a fraction smaller than what Kameo renders is rendered on PS3 ...

Hope you uderstand what i am saying, and check up the term LOD (Level of Detail) on google too, will help you understand

Plus Kameo has some HUGE draw distance and visibility without scrifices, and a huge army like 10 times the one at Lair

 

Lair looks far more boring than Kameo, where at least you could explore, than only shoot fireballs, that is a 8/10 game MAX if not lower

 

The point of the thread is that it looks like garbage comparing to a LAUNCH 360 game, same with R&C, the lighting and vegetation, and surroundings look like a bad joke, the characters while do look good, still are nothing really special

greg_splicer

 You do realize that Kameo has BAD antisotropic filtering right? you may see the ground textures good up close, but a few metres away they look like they have no pixels on them. And im gonna quote your 8/10.