[QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Had a ps3 back in 09, and 360 back in 07, but i sold them both because i hardly used them
Samus3D
Silly!
I don't have either too... I'm a Nintendo only gamer pretty much Dedication!This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Had a ps3 back in 09, and 360 back in 07, but i sold them both because i hardly used them
Samus3D
Silly!
I don't have either too... I'm a Nintendo only gamer pretty much Dedication![QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]well maybe it was because I was young when I was playing them, but they seemed pretty tough. SMB3 had a huge spike in difficulty as soon as you reached world 7Rich is generally a very good reviewer.. Other than his Skyward Sword review which I just thought was completely ridiculous. While I think he is a better reviewer than most at Ign, he can overlook too many mistakes sometimes. Or at least, he notices them but for some odd reason it doesn't reflect it in the score
Listening to his video review sounded more like an 8 than a 9.1. And so did Skyward Sword the first podcast after it released I mean it was hilarious all of the problems he brought up which was nowhere to be found in the review which didn't make any sense to me.
But then again, everyone is entitled to a mistake we are all just people, but Im gonna hold my breathe before getting to hyped about this one. Because he is generally a pretty good reviewer. but oh well.
Shinobishyguy
I played SMB 3 like 2 years back and I found it pretty hard around that giant land area and above. I guess I'm not that great at 2D older platformers.
I don't see why ppl are annoyed about there difficulty especially when games have only gotten easier over the years. Both SMG games were cakewalks to me (that even includes Grandmaster and such imo) but they were still just freaking great.
[QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Had a ps3 back in 09, and 360 back in 07, but i sold them both because i hardly used them
Samus3D
Silly!
I don't have either too... I'm a Nintendo only gamer pretty muchThat was me basically around N64 and half way into GC era haha.
lives =/= level of challenge.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]
[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]IGN on NSMBU: "Youll never run out of lives." SMH....remember when these games used to be challenging?VendettaRed07
Going by that logic SMB3 and mario world were cake walks
But they kind of were lol. Two of my favorite games but I really didn't find them hard at any point. Maybe its just me
But Ill tell you it was SMG that was a realcake walk.....
:P
Freaking loved that stage haha. As soon as I entered it, I thought "this is gonna be awesome" :D.
IGN on NSMBU: "Youll never run out of lives." SMH....remember when these games used to be challenging?Bread_or_Decidei agree with your sentiment but running out of lives is noteven about challenge. Its mostly just an annoyance. An obsolete relic of the arcade era
i have one problem with buying this thing at launch. The gamepad isnt good enough. Im not execting ability upgrades. I just think that in time they will expand the range of the controller so I can use it anywhere in the house, and of course have better battery life. I dont see any games good enough for me to get on board early
Some people choose to cling to the negatives even when it is apparent that the console is awesome.So the basic Wii U has 3gigs of memory and the premium one has 25.. just wow lol
GD1551
[QUOTE="GD1551"]Some people choose to cling to the negatives even when it is apparent that the console is awesome.So the basic Wii U has 3gigs of memory and the premium one has 25.. just wow lol
charizard1605
lol dude, for a 300 dollar console with absolete hardware in 2012 that's completely unacceptable. You know that, the mere fact it has no native USB 3.0 support, no hot swapping support for USB drives and you can't store save data on SD cards is just embarrassing.
Some people choose to cling to the negatives even when it is apparent that the console is awesome.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="GD1551"]
So the basic Wii U has 3gigs of memory and the premium one has 25.. just wow lol
GD1551
lol dude, for a 300 dollar console with absolete hardware in 2012 that's completely unacceptable. You know that, the mere fact it has no native USB 3.0 support, no hot swapping support for USB drives and you can't store save data on SD cards is just embarrassing.
USB 3.0 isn't even standard yet, why would you expect that on the Wii U? Wii U doesn't allow for hot swapping for the same reason that no console allows you to eject memory storage units while the power is on: it can lead to data corruption. SD card saving is disabled because of potential exploits that could be discovered and open the console to piracy. Seriously. I never saw you laughing at any of the other consoles or handhelds even though they have similar limitations,USB 3.0 isn't even standard yet, why would you expect that on the Wii U? Wii U doesn't allow for hot swapping for the same reason that no console allows you to eject memory storage units while the power is on: it can lead to data corruption. SD card saving is disabled because of potential exploits that could be discovered and open the console to piracy. Seriously. I never saw you laughing at any of the other consoles or handhelds even though they have similar limitations,charizard1605
Dude those consoles came out in 2006 lol. Also USB 3.0 is pretty standard, I mean how many mobos these days don't ship with at least two ports? Dude and hot swapping with USB devices won't lead to data corruption unless you do something silly like hotswap while it's being used, I can hotswap usb drives on the PS3. You have a point with the SD card thing, but seriously that doesn't change the fact that it's 3gigs of memory in a 300 dollar console in 2012!!!
Some people choose to cling to the negatives even when it is apparent that the console is awesome.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="GD1551"]
So the basic Wii U has 3gigs of memory and the premium one has 25.. just wow lol
GD1551
lol dude, for a 300 dollar console with absolete hardware in 2012 that's completely unacceptable. You know that, the mere fact it has no native USB 3.0 support, no hot swapping support for USB drives and you can't store save data on SD cards is just embarrassing.
i'm sorry but in terms of hardware $300 is a drop in the bucket. If the hardware approached PC specs the console would be twice as expensive (if not more). Remember that you're getting a very expensive tablet controller with it as well. If that's not your thing well that's your opinion. A lot of people see value in it. As for the hard drive, if you noticed things like the data retrieval speed you would see that most wiiu games will not even require an install. Even so, the memory is easily expandable and that stuff only gets cheaper over time.
i'm sorry but in terms of hardware $300 is a drop in the bucket. If the hardware approached PC specs the console would be twice as expensive (if not more). Remember that you're getting a very expensive tablet controller with it as well. If that's not your thing well that's your opinion. A lot of people see value in it. As for the hard drive, if you noticed things like the data retrieval speed you would see that most wiiu games will not even require an install. Even so, the memory is easily expandable and that stuff only gets cheaper over time.
GunSmith1_basic
What does that even mean??
I can just imagine charizard saying HD isn't standard prior to wii's release.:P Budget laptops have been equipped with at least one usb 3.0 port for almost a year now. No excuse for a console that's supposed to last 5+ years not to have one in 2012.
[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]
i'm sorry but in terms of hardware $300 is a drop in the bucket. If the hardware approached PC specs the console would be twice as expensive (if not more). Remember that you're getting a very expensive tablet controller with it as well. If that's not your thing well that's your opinion. A lot of people see value in it. As for the hard drive, if you noticed things like the data retrieval speed you would see that most wiiu games will not even require an install. Even so, the memory is easily expandable and that stuff only gets cheaper over time.
GD1551
What does that even mean??
umm, what do you mean by asking what it means? You said that the console was bad value. I don't see bad value here. I think that was pretty clear by what I wrote there. You also said that it was embarrassing for it not to have USB 3.0. This is not a PC dude. The USB port is hardly a big concern hereI'm genuinely curious. What are the negative consequences of having a cheap USB port on a dedicated gaming machine that runs on discs?
[QUOTE="GD1551"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]
i'm sorry but in terms of hardware $300 is a drop in the bucket. If the hardware approached PC specs the console would be twice as expensive (if not more). Remember that you're getting a very expensive tablet controller with it as well. If that's not your thing well that's your opinion. A lot of people see value in it. As for the hard drive, if you noticed things like the data retrieval speed you would see that most wiiu games will not even require an install. Even so, the memory is easily expandable and that stuff only gets cheaper over time.
GunSmith1_basic
What does that even mean??
umm, what do you mean by asking what it means? You said that the console was bad value. I don't see bad value here. I think that was pretty clear by what I wrote there. You also said that it was embarrassing for it not to have USB 3.0. This is not a PC dude. The USB port is hardly a big concern here Um, usb is the only viable way to expand your memory on wii-u.[QUOTE="GD1551"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]
i'm sorry but in terms of hardware $300 is a drop in the bucket. If the hardware approached PC specs the console would be twice as expensive (if not more). Remember that you're getting a very expensive tablet controller with it as well. If that's not your thing well that's your opinion. A lot of people see value in it. As for the hard drive, if you noticed things like the data retrieval speed you would see that most wiiu games will not even require an install. Even so, the memory is easily expandable and that stuff only gets cheaper over time.
GunSmith1_basic
What does that even mean??
umm, what do you mean by asking what it means? You said that the console was bad value. I don't see bad value here. I think that was pretty clear by what I wrote there. You also said that it was embarrassing for it not to have USB 3.0. This is not a PC dude. The USB port is hardly a big concern hereDude, why are you comparing a console to PC hardware? Also man 3gigs of space? You can't even DL nintendoland with that, why do you guys think that's acceptable? Then on top of it your storage options are limited because nintendo won't use the new interface.
I'm sure 3 gigs is unacceptable, but I know that expanding the memory should be a simple thing. In the short term, not everything has switched to USB 3.0 yet (not 100% on this). As for the future, even if the wiiu becomes incompatible with future memory expansion there will always be custom memory expansion offered for the wiiu by third parties or even Nintendo itself. If we're talking about the SD card expansion, there are high performance 128 GB SD cards out there. Maybe this is too expensive today but that will be cheap before we know it. Bottom line is that value isn't bad here. It's also good to note that Nintendo is taking a loss on every wiiu soldDude, why are you comparing a console to PC hardware? Also man 3gigs of space? You can't even DL nintendoland with that, why do you guys think that's acceptable? Then on top of it your storage options are limited because nintendo won't use the new interface.
GD1551
I'm not surprised, I still think they have the most anti-Nintendo employees, even then a 7.0 is still decent.Why am I not surprised that G4TV has the lowest SMBU review so far?
Bigboi500
[QUOTE="GD1551"]I'm sure 3 gigs is unacceptable, but I know that expanding the memory should be a simple thing. In the short term, not everything has switched to USB 3.0 yet (not 100% on this). As for the future, even if the wiiu becomes incompatible with future memory expansion there will always be custom memory expansion offered for the wiiu by third parties or even Nintendo itself. If we're talking about the SD card expansion, there are high performance 128 GB SD cards out there. Maybe this is too expensive today but that will be cheap before we know it. Bottom line is that value isn't bad here. It's also good to note that Nintendo is taking a loss on every wiiu soldNot to mention that systems get larger HDDs down the road, the PS3 went from 20 and 60 GB @ launch and now have up to 500GB standard. Haters are just being disingenuous as usual, and trying to hold Nintendo to a different set of standards.Dude, why are you comparing a console to PC hardware? Also man 3gigs of space? You can't even DL nintendoland with that, why do you guys think that's acceptable? Then on top of it your storage options are limited because nintendo won't use the new interface.
GunSmith1_basic
They gave frigging NSMB2 a higher score :? I'm guessing this game didn't have enough shiny coins to keep them interested.Why am I not surprised that G4TV has the lowest SMBU review so far?
Bigboi500
I'm sure 3 gigs is unacceptable, but I know that expanding the memory should be a simple thing. In the short term, not everything has switched to USB 3.0 yet (not 100% on this). As for the future, even if the wiiu becomes incompatible with future memory expansion there will always be custom memory expansion offered for the wiiu by third parties or even Nintendo itself. If we're talking about the SD card expansion, there are high performance 128 GB SD cards out there. Maybe this is too expensive today but that will be cheap before we know it. Bottom line is that value isn't bad here. It's also good to note that Nintendo is taking a loss on every wiiu soldNot to mention that systems get larger HDDs down the road, the PS3 went from 20 and 60 GB @ launch and now have up to 500GB standard. Haters are just being disingenuous as usual, and trying to hold Nintendo to a different set of standards. Because people don't expect harddrive space to increase after 7 years.... Wii-u should be launching with at least 120GBs. 2001 OG xbox 4GB-8GB 2005 20GB 2006 20GB-60GB.........2012 8GB-32GB WTF[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="GD1551"]
Dude, why are you comparing a console to PC hardware? Also man 3gigs of space? You can't even DL nintendoland with that, why do you guys think that's acceptable? Then on top of it your storage options are limited because nintendo won't use the new interface.
Bigboi500
[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]"i'm genuinely curious. What are the negative consequences of having a cheap USB port on a dedicated gaming machine that runs on discs?" I guess you missed out on the DD game boom we had this gen, being a sheep and all.MFDOOM1983I'm mainly a ps3 gamer, but I bought quite a few steam games on my PC (although it's hardly a gaming PC)Then you purposely asked a dumb question? hey, I'm approaching this like a realist. They could have put everything and the kitchen sink in this machine but they would have to charge 599 US dollars. They put in this really expensive controller so the costs had to come out somewhere and they wanted to price themselves into the mainstream which is smart. This will make sure that there will be more third party software support because of a bigger userbase. Having expandable memory is very smart for many reasons. Maybe there are gamers out there who don't download a whole lot. Maybe there are gamers out there who have extra memory laying around they can use (true in my case). How about instead of going through the trouble of an expensive SKU, just have expandable memory??? It seems very smart to me anyway.
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"] I'm mainly a ps3 gamer, but I bought quite a few steam games on my PC (although it's hardly a gaming PC)GunSmith1_basicThen you purposely asked a dumb question? hey, I'm approaching this like a realist. They could have put everything and the kitchen sink in this machine but they would have to charge 599 US dollars. They put in this really expensive controller so the costs had to come out somewhere and they wanted to price themselves into the mainstream which is smart and will make sure that there will be more third party software support. Having expandable memory is very smart for many reasons. Maybe there are gamers out there who don't download a whole lot. Maybe there are gamers out there who have extra memory laying around they can use (true in my case). How about instead of going through the trouble of an expensive SKU, just have expandable memory??? It seems very smart to me anyway.Lol We're talking about a single USB 3.0 port. Not a gtx 670 or a ivy bridge I7. Just a single usb 3.0 port that has been included with $300 laptops for the past 12+ months. Having expandable memory is great when its not bottlenecked by dated tech. I've tried running pc games from 2004-2005(far cry and doom 3) on a WD external drive a few years and ran into problems loading levels. Most of these 2.0 drives have laptop 5600RPM drives in them that are further slowed down by power savings settings. Maybe wii-u games will be different but from my experiences usb 2.o external drives aren't designed to stream the amount of data needed for two gen old games. let alone next gen titles.
Eh don't see the issue with the USB. Most ppl I know go and buy games from the store for novelties sake on consoles.
Steam on the other hand is just an awesome service with everything streamlined plus has imo the best community options and dealings in it as well. Its easy to dl from there also because prices are so cheap.
Consoles don't normally have those impulse grabbing 75 percent off luxuries nor anything even remotely close to as good as steam, so most would probably just buy from the store.
You'll need to buy an additional cable for those budget drives that rely on power from the USB port. MFDOOM1983That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard :| What the hell Nintendo?
I didn't really, but I was hoping the lack of HD wouldn't detract from the Wii's game library, which would hopefully go on to be massive and full of great games. Yeah, that didn't happen :PI can just imagine charizard saying HD isn't standard prior to wii's release.:P Budget laptops have been equipped with at least one usb 3.0 port for almost a year now. No excuse for a console that's supposed to last 5+ years not to have one in 2012.
MFDOOM1983
Just another thing consumers have to buy. Maybe, I misinterpreted the quote but this sounds pretty silly.:P
Okay this looks stupid...Just another thing consumers have to buy. Maybe, I misinterpreted the quote but this sounds pretty silly.:P
MFDOOM1983
so sorry if this is old but it pertains to what I was just talking to and I'm not sifting through a massive thread:
Wii U External Memory Features
yeah, there's no real defending it. It's a pain. It's not a massive issue though. It sounds like the way to go is to find a USB external hard drive that either will work with the limited power going to the USB or one you can plug in. So it is more effort than it ought to be but still not horrible.
edit: good photo of that y-cable MFDOOM. They say that not all external hard drives will need it though
The concern is that usb 2.0 external harddrives aren't capable of streaming the large amounts of data needed for modern games. From my experience they aren't even capable for streaming the amount of data needed to properly run 8 year games. I recall farcry taking upwards of 20 minute to load and when I finally started playing the geometry failed to load properly. This is why I would have preferred a e-sata or at the very least, usb 3.0.The fact that you all are arguing about something a small as USB 3.0 ports (in a damn console no less) completely blows my mind. Oh wait, this is SW.. nevermind. :roll:
Zophar87
[QUOTE="Zophar87"]The concern is that usb 2.0 external harddrives aren't capable of streaming the large amounts of data needed for modern games. From my experience they aren't even capable for streaming the amount of data needed to properly run 8 year games. I recall farcry taking upwards of 20 minute to load and when I finally started playing the geometry failed to load properly. This is why I would have preferred a e-sata or at the very least, usb 3.0.The fact that you all are arguing about something a small as USB 3.0 ports (in a damn console no less) completely blows my mind. Oh wait, this is SW.. nevermind. :roll:
MFDOOM1983
Except this is a console. Not a PC.
The concern is that usb 2.0 external harddrives aren't capable of streaming the large amounts of data needed for modern games. From my experience they aren't even capable for streaming the amount of data needed to properly run 8 year games. I recall farcry taking upwards of 20 minute to load and when I finally started playing the geometry failed to load properly. This is why I would have preferred a e-sata or at the very least, usb 3.0.[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]
The fact that you all are arguing about something a small as USB 3.0 ports (in a damn console no less) completely blows my mind. Oh wait, this is SW.. nevermind. :roll:
Zophar87
Except this is a console. Not a PC.
Because console games installed on a harddrive won't be streaming data in? Yeah, you keep running with that idea... Wii-u will be offering retail game for DD and will have games only available for DD. The data speeds from your harddrive will play a big role in general performance like load times.[QUOTE="Zophar87"]The concern is that usb 2.0 external harddrives aren't capable of streaming the large amounts of data needed for modern games. From my experience they aren't even capable for streaming the amount of data needed to properly run 8 year games. I recall farcry taking upwards of 20 minute to load and when I finally started playing the geometry failed to load properly. This is why I would have preferred a e-sata or at the very least, usb 3.0. that's a great point but isn't it possible that the wiiu's system will not run exactly like a PC? They obviously have tested this whole system out with downloadable titles and could of optimized this whole system to work better in this narrow context-- or am I off base there?The fact that you all are arguing about something a small as USB 3.0 ports (in a damn console no less) completely blows my mind. Oh wait, this is SW.. nevermind. :roll:
MFDOOM1983
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