The End Of Hardcore Gaming?

With the Nintendo Wii outselling both the 360 & PS3 it makes you think about the next generation gaming consoles. If cheaper casual systems sell more, why won't the next generation systems be made mostly of these casual elements? Will all the next systems have motion controls and touch screens that Nintendo has pioneered so well? Both Microsoft & Sony are trying to bring these elements of casual play to their current systems with casual games, social networking and new peripherals. So this brings me to my point, is their no room for hardcore games or systems in the future generation or will we be forced to play casual sh*t for an eternity. What are your thoughts?

I think PC will remain as the hardcore platform, but consoles will become more casual oriented, what the big 3 need to do is find a balance between Casual and hardcore

Blizzard's big 3 (WoW, SC2, D3) alone will keep the market alive for the next 10 years. I think you need to chill out.Koalakommander

^ what he said.

And besides, I consider myself more hardcore of a gamer due to newer online services these days. It's great playing single player games and playing stories on co-op. Beating halo 3 on co-op on launch night was such a great memory.

Let me say this:

That messaeg has been repeated many times in gaming history. Happened with the PS1, I believe, and I'm pretty sure there were a few people who said hardcore gaming would die with the NES (irony being that gaming was already moribund). Hardcore gaming is not in danger, and companies have never targeted hardcore gamers exclusively, with the sole exception of the Neo Geo.

It's great playing single player games and playing stories on co-op. Beating halo 3 on co-op on launch night was such a great memory. Squall18

And what makes it hard core?

Its CASUAL you cant get more CASUAL than that - siting on sofa,playing game with friend

THIS IS HARDCORE

finishing Mario for 5 minute

To finish it so fast,you have to know every level,than you need to know best possible routes,you need to know enemy movement,EVERYDAMRN THING!

So what makes playing Mario on this level of "pro gaming" more casual than autoaimed Halo 3?

naw...hardcore gamers are usually willing to pay even more money for products...look at Nvidia (and the companies that manufactor the graphics cards)...nearly every year they churn out a $600 dollar graphics card...Hardcore PC gamers are still willing to run out and buy it for a 10% increase in preformance...

I have friends that only own 2 or 3 games for whatever console they decided to buy...they are shocked when they see just how many games I own.

If casual gaming takes over, there may not even BE a "next gen" of consoles, since casual gamers would rather buy a cheap console with medium graphics instead of an expensive console with good graphics. Why buy a PS4 for $700 when you can buy a slim PS3 for $200 along with a massive games library?PandaBear86

no, it'll just mean longer generations, which, according to several people here, is something that's desired a fair amount.

With the Nintendo Wii outselling both the 360 & PS3 it makes you think about the next generation gaming consoles. If cheaper casual systems sell more, why won't the next generation systems be made mostly of these casual elements? Will all the next systems have motion controls and touch screens that Nintendo has pioneered so well? Both Microsoft & Sony are trying to bring these elements of casual play to their current systems with casual games, social networking and new peripherals. So this brings me to my point, is their no room for hardcore games or systems in the future generation or will we be forced to play casual sh*t for an eternity. What are your thoughts?

Geetarman42

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

When you do this to play Crysis with +5 fps gain THAN YOU ARE HARDCORE

Wii era madness is going to stop soon.

Blizzard's big 3 (WoW, SC2, D3) alone will keep the market alive for the next 10 years. I think you need to chill out.Koalakommander

WoW is a pretty casual mmo.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]Blizzard's big 3 (WoW, SC2, D3) alone will keep the market alive for the next 10 years. I think you need to chill out.-Master_St3ve-

WoW is a pretty casual mmo.

Wow is one of games that are easy to learn and hard to master. Even housewife can play wow,but she cant get UBERL337HAX0rzOMG items etc.

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

When you do this to play Crysis with +5 fps gain THAN YOU ARE HARDCORE

Lidve

There are many other things to do that make you hardcore, and I've done them? I've barely touched PC gaming, but I've beaten several games entirely in Japanese (despite not understanding it). That's definitely hardcore.

yea i would agree there is nothing hardcore about consoles check out htis mod for crysis

the graphics for crysis gets better!

http://www.xfire.com/video/166b9/

[QUOTE="Lidve"]

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

When you do this to play Crysis with +5 fps gain THAN YOU ARE HARDCORE

Video_Game_King

There are many other things to do that make you hardcore, and I've done them? I've barely touched PC gaming, but I've beaten several games entirely in Japanese (despite not understanding it). That's definitely hardcore.

No its not,i remember some of my friends playing Japanese version of games at age of 9 and they are not hardcore. You just "guess it" and keep playing,there is nothing hardcore about it. its same when people who dont know english play english version and have no clue whats going on (like most of us do from non english countries when we are younger)

Especialy if game is not text-adventure lol

Sorry for double post

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

When you do this to play Crysis with +5 fps gain THAN YOU ARE HARDCORE

Lidve

I'm sorry.
Actually thats pretty cool though that you would do that for the ability to play a game, talk about dedication

[QUOTE="Lidve"]

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

When you do this to play Crysis with +5 fps gain THAN YOU ARE HARDCORE

Video_Game_King

There are many other things to do that make you hardcore, and I've done them? I've barely touched PC gaming, but I've beaten several games entirely in Japanese (despite not understanding it). That's definitely hardcore.

That just makes you a nerd.

And anyone who thinks their console is "hardcore" is delusional.

I mean face it. Its simple - easy to use - plug and play device. THERE IS NOTHING HARDCORE ABOUT IT

Lidve

True, consoles are not truly hardcore since they are designed to be mass-consumer devices so that even a 9-year old can play it.. Hoiwever, consoles are more than plug and play nowadays, since you have to deal with updates, patches, mandatory installs, RROD, pay for online, etc ;)

And even if do think that is "hardcore" what if you finished Wii japanese game that is heavily story driven like zack and wiki?

Would wee than "all of a sudden" be hardcore because you play it?

you have to deal with updates, patches, mandatory installs, RROD, pay for online, etc ;)PandaBear86

And it is really hard :lol:

And you dont deal with RROD, service deal with it ,and even before consoles are known to be fragile pieces of hardware,i rememer my PSX one breaking dosen of times and its still not HC

The end of Hardcore gaming. Well it would have to started first for it to end. There is no such thing has Hardcore Gaming. I play x game thats makes me hardcore. Thats just laughable.

if next gen comes down to all home consoles from ms, ninty, and sony just using a wii mote and waggle as there controller than im done with that gen. i like the 360 controller the most but i also like having a controller and sitting back and shooting guys down whatever. waggle ftl imo.xbox360isgr8t

It's funny you say that, since the Wiimote/nunchuk combo is the single best console controller for FPSs. Overall it's second only to the keyboard/mouse combo

That just makes you a nerd.

-Master_St3ve-

hint: it's the same thing.

Why is it so bad that Nintendo are bringing new people into gaming ? We were all casuals once, the new casual gamers will be the hardcore of tomorrow. Hardcore gaming is not going to die, theire are plenty of people who are interested in hardcore games like those interested in casual games.Swift_Boss_A

Not to mention that with bridge titles like Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros., and Endless Ocean there is a definite path for casuals to follow up to hardcore level. I have almost stopped being amazed by the lack of vision and scope 99% of the people on these forums have.