Steam's User Numbers Show PC Gaming is Dying Again

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#1  Edited By lostrib
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Let us have a moment of silence for PC gaming...

Just kidding, Steam set another record for concurrent users, having just set a new record of 9 million in March

Steam broke its peak concurrent user record over the weekend when more than 9.5 million users logged in at the same time.

According to the Steam and game statistics page, the figure peaked at 9,502,661 users around midday pacific time on May 10.

PC rulez, consoles drool!

*insert whining about auto start/idle/cost/f2p*

I would imagine they'll easily hit 10 million before the year is over

Oh, and the source

EDIT: For those that don't know, concurrent is the number of people online at once, not the total number of steam users

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Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

Do I really need to explain why you're wrong?

You did this on purpose didn't you? You sly devil

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Consider the huge userbase the PC supposed to have these numbers sounds very very low...

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#5 Skelly34
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Looks like a lot of people are fleeing from their consoles to seek higher ground for the great flood that is Gen 8.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

Wow....

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#7 Halo2-Best-FPS
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@aroxx_ab said:

Consider the huge userbase the PC supposed to have these numbers sounds very very low...

yup. xbl and psn have exponentially more.

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#8 lostrib
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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Consider the huge userbase the PC supposed to have these numbers sounds very very low...

yup. xbl and psn have exponentially more.

the math totally checks out

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#10  Edited By Blabadon
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Halo 2 isn't even the best Halo.

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#11 Skelly34
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@Blabadon said:

Halo 2 isn't even the best Halo.

Spiderman thread go.

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#12 Blabadon
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@skelly34: Nah, no need to ruin the thread over one used. On topic though, I'm happy Steam is getting more and more popular.

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#13  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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Steam hit 9,000,001......QUICK MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!!!

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#14 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Steam hit 9,000,001......QUICK MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!!!

feel free to do so, but it will probably be locked as Steam hit that number a couple of months ago

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#15  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: oh really....it'll get locked. Gee that sucks.

I guess the jokes on....THEY JUST REACHED 9,000,002...QUICK MAKE ANOTHER THREAD!!!!

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#16 Cloud_imperium
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@aroxx_ab said:

Consider the huge userbase the PC supposed to have these numbers sounds very very low...

These numbers are great. Not every person with a PC is a "PC Gamer". Some PC companies like to brag about 600+ million PC gamers but most of them are just PC owners who play some facebook games from time to time. The real revenue and PC community is the one who is registered on GOG, Steam, Origin etc or buys games physically. Steam alone currently has 125 million users. 9.5 million were using the platform at the same time.

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Wow so many Dota players LOL sorry couldn't resist :P

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#18 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: oh really....it'll get locked. Gee that sucks.

I guess the jokes on....THEY JUST REACHED 9,000,002...QUICK MAKE ANOTHER THREAD!!!!

Duplicate threads are inadvisable, however I could direct you to a mod if you have any questions on posting rules

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#19 Skelly34
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Wow so many Dota players LOL sorry couldn't resist :P

What's wrong with Dota, brohan?

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#20 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Cloud_imperium: false.

The real revenue is from MMOs and F2P games.

It's why most big games sell better on console.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

looks like someone doesn't know the word "concurrent" let's buy a dictionary for our ignorant peasant over here.

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#22 Halo2-Best-FPS
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: false.

The real revenue is from MMOs and F2P games.

It's why most big games sell better on console.

agreed, if you take out mmo,f2p,rts and other shit PC falls behind fast in sales. Probably last place by far.

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#23 ArunsunK
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@Halo2-Best-FPS:

LMAO you can't tell the difference between 'concurrent users' and 'user accounts'. FYI Steam's last count was 125 million active accounts.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: false.

The real revenue is from MMOs and F2P games.

It's why most big games sell better on console.

Which is the problem. Call me when publishers get back on board with non f2p or moba pc games. I want single player campaigns or RTS games the like of Baldurs gate 3, Half-life 3, Diablo 4, Black and White 3, Age of Empires 4, Rise of Nations 2, Homeworld 3, Exclusive Doom 4, a new Stalker game, a new Vampire the masquerade, etc......

PC of the past is dead and is only resurrected by kickstarter, strategy games and indies(thankfully or I wouldn't even bother playing pc), with such gems as Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, EU4, Civ5, starpoint gemeni 2, etc... But where is the publisher support? They only show support in form of console ports. I play those on console where they were made for.

When fucking Maxis the maker of the Sim City and the Sims can't even be bothered to be supported by publishers, you know there is a problem.

The Moba genre is the newest fad bubble...that will burst with so many making games for that genre, saturating the market. Those style games are based on the rts mechanic I couldn't stand. Warcraft 3 was the worst rts imo.... and now the rts genre is practically dead besides mobas.

Back in the 90's and the first half of the 00's Pc gaming was the spotlight for new games, new technology and publisher funding...what happened? I remember countless finished games coming out monthly, now everything is early access. You could go to the store and a whole wall was dedicated to PC games, now its a small 3 foot by 3 foot shelf...

So yeah congradulations steam, but your parent company valve has abandoned the hard core in favor of f2p multiplayer hat making bullshit.... where the hell is half-life3...

/rant.

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#25 NyaDC
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People don't seem to know what concurrent means, it means users actively on the service at that point in time, 9.5 million people online at once. Steam has roughly 250 million registered accounts and as of three months ago 125 million of those account were active, that number has likely grown.

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9 million people I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

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"Call me when publishers get back on board with non f2p or moba pc games. I want single player campaigns or"

Call me when publishers get on board with single player non-movie games

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@nyadc said:

People don't seem to know what concurrent means, it means users actively on the service at that point in time, 9.5 million people online at once. Steam has roughly 250 million registered accounts and as of three months ago 125 million of those account were active, that number has likely grown.

They know what concurrent means, they're just tryhardering trolling.

@dxmcat said:

"Call me when publishers get back on board with non f2p or moba pc games. I want single player campaigns or"

Call me when publishers get on board with single player non-movie games

I think I'd rather play the first free indie I could find in steam than TLOU.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: false.

  1. The real revenue is from MMOs and F2P games.
  2. It's why most big games sell better on console.
  1. Huge part yes. Entire revenue,,, No
  2. Source?
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#30 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Cloud_imperium: I didn't say entire revenue. You want that to be a thing but it's not.

I don't need a source. All I need is the usual Ubisoft statement saying PS4 sold most of its games and how GTAV sold sold a little over 1 million last I heard on PC......consoles did that in the first hour or whatever.

So yeah...source it up if you need to.

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#31  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@Midnightshade29 said:

Which is the problem. Call me when publishers get back on board with non f2p or moba pc games. I want single player campaigns or RTS games the like of Baldurs gate 3, Half-life 3, Diablo 4, Black and White 3, Age of Empires 4, Rise of Nations 2, Homeworld 3, Exclusive Doom 4, a new Stalker game, a new Vampire the masquerade, etc......

There are F2P games and Mobas but that doesn't mean there aren't other games in the market. There are plenty of Single Player games on PC. You want campaigns in RTS? Have you missed Starcraft 2 trilogy? Wargame franchise or upcoming Act of Aggression? You want Diablo 4 after they released its expansion last year and probably working on second expansion? Don't count on it... Blizzard takes their times with games and they don't milk the franchise after the trilogy. That's the main reason why there is no Warcraft 4 despite huge demand. Homeworld's AAA prequel is in development, it's called Homeworld Shipbreakers and it's funded by Gearbox. As for cRPGs like Baldurs Gate, plenty of those are out there now more than in the last ten years. New game from STALKER devs is in development, rumored to be STALKER 2.

PC of the past is dead and is only resurrected by kickstarter, strategy games and indies(thankfully or I wouldn't even bother playing pc), with such gems as Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, EU4, Civ5, starpoint gemeni 2, etc... But where is the publisher support? They only show support in form of console ports. I play those on console where they were made for.

If you think PC is dead then Console gaming died last gen. Console gaming is in much worse state. All of those Console games are mostly dumbed down wannabe PC games. Consoles lost their uniqueness a long time ago. The entire industry is a shit show now. PC is still better.

When fucking Maxis the maker of the Sim City and the Sims can't even be bothered to be supported by publishers, you know there is a problem.

We have better City builder now.

The Moba genre is the newest fad bubble...that will burst with so many making games for that genre, saturating the market. Those style games are based on the rts mechanic I couldn't stand. Warcraft 3 was the worst rts imo.... and now the rts genre is practically dead besides mobas.

Moba is huge yes but you are ignoring other titles as mentioned above. And that's just your opinion. Warcraft 3 was masterpiece.

Back in the 90's and the first half of the 00's Pc gaming was the spotlight for new games, new technology and publisher funding...what happened? I remember countless finished games coming out monthly, now everything is early access. You could go to the store and a whole wall was dedicated to PC games, now its a small 3 foot by 3 foot shelf...

I agree that PC gaming is all about digital stores now but there are still AAA games that get boxed release. Like it or not, that's where the entire entertainment industries are headed, even consoles. It's just happening on PC first.

So yeah congradulations steam, but your parent company valve has abandoned the hard core in favor of f2p multiplayer hat making bullshit.... where the hell is half-life3...

Valve doesn't make games that they use to make, true. But you can't ignore other devs.

/rant.

Seems like you are ignoring everything and just looking at one or two genres that aren't big exclusively on PC and complaining about it.

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#32  Edited By -God-
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@mr_huggles_dog

How do you feel that Steam has more concurrent users than PSN/XBL combined?

Imagine if we also got GoG/Battlenet/LoL/Origin numbers. Nothing touches PC player count. And none of that is social/flash games!

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#33 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@-God-: I feel the same as before...bloated from eating too big of a sandwich.

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#34 Cloud_imperium
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: I didn't say entire revenue. You want that to be a thing but it's not.

I don't need a source. All I need is the usual Ubisoft statement saying PS4 sold most of its games and how GTAV sold sold a little over 1 million last I heard on PC......consoles did that in the first hour or whatever.

So yeah...source it up if you need to.

Source or it didn't happen.

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#35 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Cloud_imperium: I'm not citing shit that was talked about and already cited on these forums.

Talk about selective memory.

You act as if a whole thread based on that Ubisoft statement never happened.

Fucking weak dude......weak.

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#36 Cloud_imperium
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: I'm not citing shit that was talked about and already cited on these forums.

Talk about selective memory.

You act as if a whole thread based on that Ubisoft statement never happened.

Fucking weak dude......weak.

So, no source? I want to see the source. Then I'll post my source to prove you wrong but I won't do that until you do it first. No source... No discussion.

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#37  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Cloud_imperium: it's not a discussion when the other person purposely forgets the past in order to steer an agenda.

That's not a discussion....that's a pitch.

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#38 Cloud_imperium
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: it's not a discussion when the other person purposely forgets the past in order to steer an agenda.

That's not a discussion....that's a pitch.

Still no source.

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The PC gaming dying joke is so...2009

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: I didn't say entire revenue. You want that to be a thing but it's not.

I don't need a source. All I need is the usual Ubisoft statement saying PS4 sold most of its games and how GTAV sold sold a little over 1 million last I heard on PC......consoles did that in the first hour or whatever.

So yeah...source it up if you need to.

once gain making bullshit with absolutely no way of backing it up because it is a straight up lie.

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#42  Edited By the_master_race
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@lostrib:

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#43  Edited By yanni1
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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

I don't think you understand what the word "concurrent" means.

Actually I'm not even surprised with that avatar, simple games for simple minds I guess.

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#44 NyaDC
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: I didn't say entire revenue. You want that to be a thing but it's not.

I don't need a source. All I need is the usual Ubisoft statement saying PS4 sold most of its games and how GTAV sold sold a little over 1 million last I heard on PC......consoles did that in the first hour or whatever.

So yeah...source it up if you need to.

The PlayStation 4 accounted for the bulk of their sales for a 3 month period from April to July which likely accounts for the launch of Watch_Dogs, you might want to give people proper context.

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#45  Edited By Krelian-co
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@the_master_race said:

@lostrib:

i laughed more than i should've to this gif, lol.

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#46  Edited By dxmcat
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That is the best Gaben gif I've seen in a while

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#47  Edited By finalstar2007
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Does this number also count those who are on steam but never use it for gaming?

i use it to chat with my friends but never for gaming :D.. steam much better than skype

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#48 remiks00
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It's sad that some people still don't know what "concurrent" means.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

Meanwhile PSN has over 110 million http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

If this doesn't prove that PC is just a niche for f2p/flashgame idiots....nothing will.

Cool, because Steam had 125M http://www.vg247.com/2015/02/24/steam-has-over-125-million-active-users-8-9m-concurrent-peak/

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Cloud_imperium: false.

The real revenue is from MMOs and F2P games.

It's why most big games sell better on console.

Dark Souls 2 sold 2.5 Milion units, has with Namco's report.

It sold 1 million on Steam, despite being 2 months late. And of the remaining 1.5m on consoles, 300k where from Japan.

So, PC is the best selling version.

Cry some more

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#50  Edited By naz99
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"Quick! someone is talking positive about the PC...it has made me instantly butthurt i must belittle it with lies and personal opinions i claim as the truth, but i can't back up!!1

Just another day in SW :D