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Funny after all this Press The PS3 is Sold out everywhere, Also alot of those had to due with software isssues which can be resolved easilyThe company might not but the game division............their in the red so ill let you use your judgement there.
Sega Only made games and they all sucked, Sony makes Computers, Laptops, Tv's, PS3, PSP, and Blu ray players. There a multi billion dollar company there not going anywhereGloverD
Sony has had a tough year. A lot of that stems from the media bashing the PS3. Yes, those executive comments were arrogant but in all honesty, do you care about what execs say or do you care about games? I for one am getting a PS3 as I like the exclusives that are MADE for Playstation like Socom, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, and GTAIV (I don't care if it's going to the 360). All in all, this shows nothing more than kids jumping on the bandwagon. That's all it boils down to. People jump on the bandwagon and are followers by nature. But honestly, why do you guys want M$ to take over the gaming industry? So they can take over the world? I'd much rather have Sony control the gaming industry than have MICROSOFT of all companies to rule gaming. Whatever happend to the whole "Microsoft sucks, Windows is lame?" Oh yea, I think that got lost when the new trend came around, the lets-bash-Sony trend.I truly want Sony to be the company they were when the PS2 was out.
I TRULY want Sony to succede just so that I can prove all you people that just jumped on the bandwagon wrong.
Bagggg
Those are good! THough I do not think the topic Creator is here anymore. Ive been bumping this thread lately.You Have made something truly great here, an anti-PS3 with evidence and good backing.
Here are links to aid your cause:
11/20/06-Game Devs Prefer 360 12/6/06 Graphics Proven to be same or worse as Xbox360Â
10/26/06- Creepy baby ad debuts
mathew952
We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb. 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080iÂ
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best.
Natural_Mystic
Sony has had a tough year. A lot of that stems from the media bashing the PS3. Yes, those executive comments were arrogant but in all honesty, do you care about what execs say or do you care about games? I for one am getting a PS3 as I like the exclusives that are MADE for Playstation like Socom, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, and GTAIV (I don't care if it's going to the 360). All in all, this shows nothing more than kids jumping on the bandwagon. That's all it boils down to. People jump on the bandwagon and are followers by nature. But honestly, why do you guys want M$ to take over the gaming industry? So they can take over the world? I'd much rather have Sony control the gaming industry than have MICROSOFT of all companies to rule gaming. Whatever happend to the whole "Microsoft sucks, Windows is lame?" Oh yea, I think that got lost when the new trend came around, the lets-bash-Sony trend.I didn't "jump on the bandwagon." I decided that $500 and $600 was too much for one console which doesn't have a lot of games that I want, when I can get a Wii for $250 and a 360 for $400, which would be just $50 more than the $600 version of the PS3, get a lot of great games (including the majority of the games that I would get if I got a PS3), get all the great Nintendo franchises, some great 360 exclusives, and some great 3rd party games. And with each PS3 "exclusive" that gets announced for the 360, that makes the PS3 even less worth it. I won't get all of the games that are multi-platform games, but there are some of them that I would have gotten if I did get a PS3 which are now coming to the 360 (Assassin's Creed, Virtua Fighter, etc.). I didn't need other people to tell me to think that PS3 was garbage. The PS3 did a good enough job telling me that itself, as shown by this thread... I'm not going to get a PS3, but if there is a PS4, I hope that Sony learns from its many, MANY mistakes that they made for the PS3. If so, then there is a chance that I will get a PS4. If not, I'll continue to support Nintendo and Microsoft in the next generation.
I TRULY want Sony to succede just so that I can prove all you people that just jumped on the bandwagon wrong.
Bagggg
[QUOTE="Natural_Mystic"][QUOTE="ScalIywag"][QUOTE="Natural_Mystic"]We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date..
ScalIywag
And to add to the list, the patent Sony just recently filed to make a wiiMote type device for their console.
Sony's WiiMote
Sony invented this 10 years ago but felt we weren't ready for it, but now they think the world is ready and decided to file the patent. At least that's what they'll say 2 years from now. Well that, and that Nintendo stole their idea, like rumble and analog sticks
updated*C
2007 is gona be the upside,
-major firmware update
-less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark
-Euro Launch
- Amazing games
-Better graphics and understand of making games
GsSanAndreas
Hahaha it's funny how cows have to look foward to "firmware updates" and console launches....
And you mean like maybe 1 or 2 good games in 2007 for ps3 while Wii PC and 360 get many.
2007 is gona be the upside,
-major firmware update too late
-less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark Still very sad sales
-Euro Launch too lateÂ
- Amazing games Not with the poor sales
-Better graphics and understand of making games too late
GsSanAndreas
[QUOTE="Natural_Mystic"]We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb. 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080iÂ
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best.
marvelfan
you do know you are in System Wars right? Okay, just checking...
same thing as last time. Ps2 was not all that attractive when it came out but sony eventually and magically made a smooth transition from ps1 to ps2. I'm sure when they are done sucking the life out of ps2 they will hype people to buy a ps3. Unlike xbox and gamecube the ps2 is still alive so I guess thats why Sony didn't lose their head yet. Thats why Sony keeps saying they don't care.ff7isnumbaone
[QUOTE="BlueBarad"]Keeping this thread bumped for the sake of ownage. SyluxEliteAgreed this must live on. It is the holy gradle of Sony faulires.
[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="BlueBarad"]Keeping this thread bumped for the sake of ownage. EmperorMetalmanAgreed this must live on. It is the holy gradle of Sony faulires.
I agreed but how do we do that?:?
[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]2007 is gona be the upside,
-major firmware update
-less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark
-Euro Launch
- Amazing games
-Better graphics and understand of making games
CPM_basic
Hahaha it's funny how cows have to look foward to "firmware updates" and console launches....
And you mean like maybe 1 or 2 good games in 2007 for ps3 while Wii PC and 360 get many.
how 1 or 2 games lemming?? MGS4,FF13,KillZone,God Of War,The Getaway,MotorStorm,Tekken,GT,C-and-R,Metro2033,VF5,HeavnlySword,L.A Noir,GTA5,PES,All EA Sports, Lair,WarHawk and many more just in case you didnt know there is 103 games under devlopment for the PS3 for 2007, which makes it twice as much as the games being devloped for the 360 or whatever other console u mentioned.. just wanted to let u know..I wish Sony hadn't taken the site down, because it was hilarious to read the angry comments.its all about money.. Remember what ms did in PS2 vs Xbox time, they paid alot of people/employees to go on forums and game site 2 bash the ps2 and say that they just got one and they're dissepointed and how much they wished for an xbox, when they got caugh by the media nobody opened their mouths, everybody like to hate on the biggest u know, but when comes to real talk they all planing to get one when their favorite games is comin out, so spare us from the bs and just wait for ur fav game to be released..
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2006/12/sonys-latest-internet-lie-blog-goes.html
short version: A "PSP fan" creates a blog about how cool his PSP is and how much he loves it, but the viral marketers hired to do the job blow their cover by being a little too enthusiastic and using too much hip lingo. The site gets swarmed by people ripping Sony and in the end, the marketing company issues a "yeah, we got caught" final post.
Yeah, it's PSP related, but it's an embarrasing black eye.
EDIT:
lol, they mirrored the page here
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/sonylieblog/default.aspx.htm
18slot
I wish Sony hadn't taken the site down, because it was hilarious to read the angry comments.My favorite quote from the comments section: "If you want a PSP badly enough you should get together with an ad agency. Then try to sell the product through a lame website while attempting to speak down to what you consider your target audience."
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2006/12/sonys-latest-internet-lie-blog-goes.html
short version: A "PSP fan" creates a blog about how cool his PSP is and how much he loves it, but the viral marketers hired to do the job blow their cover by being a little too enthusiastic and using too much hip lingo. The site gets swarmed by people ripping Sony and in the end, the marketing company issues a "yeah, we got caught" final post.
Yeah, it's PSP related, but it's an embarrasing black eye.
EDIT:
lol, they mirrored the page here
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/sonylieblog/default.aspx.htm
18slot
Great post by the TC. No direct bashing just cold, hard facts. It mirrors what others have said, but I didn't know about some of it, like the rootkit stuff.
its all about money.. Remember what ms did in PS2 vs Xbox time, they paid alot of people/employees to go on forums and game site 2 bash the ps2 and say that they just got one and they're dissepointed and how much they wished for an xbox, when they got caugh by the media nobody opened their mouths, everybody like to hate on the biggest u know, but when comes to real talk they all planing to get one when their favorite games is comin out, so spare us from the bs and just wait for ur fav game to be released.. Juevani
how long did it take you to post this. you know half the people didn't even rad the entire thing you posted.ocdog45
[QUOTE="CPM_basic"][QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]2007 is gona be the upside,
-major firmware update
-less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark
-Euro Launch
- Amazing games
-Better graphics and understand of making games
Juevani
Hahaha it's funny how cows have to look foward to "firmware updates" and console launches....
And you mean like maybe 1 or 2 good games in 2007 for ps3 while Wii PC and 360 get many.
how 1 or 2 games lemming?? MGS4,FF13,KillZone,God Of War,The Getaway,MotorStorm,Tekken,GT,C-and-R,Metro2033,VF5,HeavnlySword,L.A Noir,GTA5,PES,All EA Sports, Lair,WarHawk and many more just in case you didnt know there is 103 games under devlopment for the PS3 for 2007, which makes it twice as much as the games being devloped for the 360 or whatever other console u mentioned.. just wanted to let u know.. .........twice as much as 360? what are you smoking....most of the gaming industry and most of sony's "once" exclusives are all "jumping in". there are more games coming to 360 than ps3 by a long shot.....please dont post things just to sound "cool"....it makes you cows seem......well...not seem...you ARE desperate :)Notice how not many cows have posted here? :lol:KrunkMastaXnot many left! (I did a fanboy poll today and got 5 cows)
AHH, but what would you Xfans do since you are really on here masking that you're bored with your 360's. Without Sony what would you do on here, since bashing is your best past time?casey7672way to grasp at straws. people post here because they love to argue. nothing more, nothing less. it's not like people didn't have enough PS2 and xbox games last generation...but people were here in force every night. those expecting that trend to CHANGE are the same people who argued with me tooth and nail last year that there won't be any games less than AA this generaion (yes, people argued that).
[QUOTE="casey7672"]AHH, but what would you Xfans do since you are really on here masking that you're bored with your 360's. Without Sony what would you do on here, since bashing is your best past time?Dreams-Visionsway to grasp at straws. people post here because they love to argue. nothing more, nothing less. it's not like people didn't have enough PS2 and xbox games last generation...but people were here in force every night. those expecting that trend to CHANGE are the same people who argued with me tooth and nail last year that there won't be any games less than AA this generaion (yes, people argued that). well what do you expect(grasping at straws)? dont COWS have like...4 stomachs? and THAT is also why so much bull**** comes out the other end....its a sony fanboy.....what else :)
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="casey7672"]AHH, but what would you Xfans do since you are really on here masking that you're bored with your 360's. Without Sony what would you do on here, since bashing is your best past time?jazrealway to grasp at straws. people post here because they love to argue. nothing more, nothing less. it's not like people didn't have enough PS2 and xbox games last generation...but people were here in force every night. those expecting that trend to CHANGE are the same people who argued with me tooth and nail last year that there won't be any games less than AA this generaion (yes, people argued that). well what do you expect(grasping at straws)? dont COWS have like...4 stomachs? and THAT is also why so much bull**** comes out the other end....its a sony fanboy.....what else :) I can't argue against that ;)
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