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#1 SolidGame_basic
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It's been a while since we've had a console as impressive as the PS4 since the PS2. Which is even harder to do now, since a lot of games have gone multiplat. The Wii won the sales war last gen, but library was dismal. I think if the PS4 keeps at it, it can even take the mantel from PC for a while. Sony still has the edge with Japanese support, amazing first party, and also more active support in the indie arena. Heck, it may even take the VR crown for all we know. The console will also most likely be $299 by the end of this year, which is killer. What are your thoughts on this, SW? Are we back to PS2 dominance?

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While the PS4 definitely has the best library of the home consoles by any objective measure, by no metric is its library even a fraction of the PC's.

So the answer to your question is, no.

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#3 Juub1990
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@SolidGame_basic said:

It's been a while since we've had a console as impressive as the PS4 since the PS2.

The 360 and PS3 were factually superior to the PS4 for their time.

Quit trolling.

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#4 SecretPolice
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As usual... Xbox Won. :P

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TC is delusional as always

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#6 UnrealGunner
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You guys measure success from hardware sales that is not true but even if it were no console can compete with PC gaming worldwide

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#7 MonsieurX
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Another 10/10 thread from OP

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#8 pug987
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As a PC gamer who got both a PS2 and a PS3 I can tell you that the PS4 isn't even remotely enticing right now. It has one game I want to play (Bloodborne) and a couple of games that I think I'd enjoy (Uncharted, Infamous). 3-4 games aren't enough to make an investment in a console. PS2 by comparison had dozens of interesting exclusives. PS3 has fewer but still a lot. PS4 may be an interesting proposition some years down the road but for now I'll just stick to PC or pick up an NX if it's backwards compatible since I never owned a Wii or Wii U and I'd like to play some of their exclusives.

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Stick a fork in all of the PS4's competition, they're done.

PS4 is coming out with the NEO to beat up Midrange PC's and steam machines at an affordable price.

Sony just brought out a 10/10 exclusive Uncharted 4 the game looks better than any XB1 game.

They also put out Ratchet and Clank that looks better than all mario games on WiiU.

I don't understand how one company can dominate as much as Sony has been doing lately. Sony is going beastmode this generation.

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@charizard1605 said:

While the PS4 definitely has the best library of the home consoles by any objective measure, by no metric is its library even a fraction of the PC's.

So the answer to your question is, no.

Man with the awesomeness of U4 being a 10/10, this guy is back in the PS2 days it seems. I remember all this talk about PS2 being the best library and killing PC back then. But at least that console had the enormous amount of extremely high regarded exclusives. This is number 2 TC. At this rate you wont get your head through a door way

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#11 FreedomFreeLife
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PS4 has 300 games, PC has 6 million games.

Try again

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#12 svaubel
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PS4 isnt even close to the PS2 and PS3 in terms of greatness. It just barely got its second 90+ exclusive

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

PS4 has 300 games, PC has 6 million games.

Try again

I'd love to see that list.

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@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:

While the PS4 definitely has the best library of the home consoles by any objective measure, by no metric is its library even a fraction of the PC's.

So the answer to your question is, no.

Man with the awesomeness of U4 being a 10/10, this guy is back in the PS2 days it seems. I remember all this talk about PS2 being the best library and killing PC back then. But at least that console had the enormous amount of extremely high regarded exclusives. This is number 2 TC. At this rate you wont get your head through a door way

Well, I wanna say number 3, because Ratchet and Clank, but yeah. Two and a half years into its life, the PS2 had Final Fantasy X, Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto Vice City, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, SOCOM, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Devil May Cry, Armored Core, Zone of the Enders, Dark Cloud, Onimusha, Twisted Metal Black, Tekken 4, Wild Arms 3, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Dark Cloud 2, War of the Monsters, Zone of the Enders 2, Ape Escape 2, Jak II, Sly Cooper... and this is just the exclusives!

Like, if anyone actually believes the PS4 is even a fraction of what the PS2 was, then they're either very young, or trolling.

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The PS4 only has 2 interesting exclusives.

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#16 Cloud_imperium
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PS4 is clear winner in Console war this gen and has better library than other Consoles but PC still has more exclusives and more genres. Consoles don't get enough exclusives anymore, unlike glorious PS2 era. PC gets more great games in 3 months than Consoles get in 3 years, and I am not talking about artsy fartsy games or Mobas. I've no interest in them.

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#17 Legend002
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As a PC gamer I much prefer the PS4 selection.

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@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:

While the PS4 definitely has the best library of the home consoles by any objective measure, by no metric is its library even a fraction of the PC's.

So the answer to your question is, no.

Man with the awesomeness of U4 being a 10/10, this guy is back in the PS2 days it seems. I remember all this talk about PS2 being the best library and killing PC back then. But at least that console had the enormous amount of extremely high regarded exclusives. This is number 2 TC. At this rate you wont get your head through a door way

Well, I wanna say number 3, because Ratchet and Clank, but yeah. Two and a half years into its life, the PS2 had Final Fantasy X, Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto Vice City, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, SOCOM, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Devil May Cry, Armored Core, Zone of the Enders, Dark Cloud, Onimusha, Twisted Metal Black, Tekken 4, Wild Arms 3, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Dark Cloud 2, War of the Monsters, Zone of the Enders 2, Ape Escape 2, Jak II, Sly Cooper... and this is just the exclusives!

Like, if anyone actually believes the PS4 is even a fraction of what the PS2 was, then they're either very young, or trolling.

I hear ya. R&C has been received well. Never have been my cup of tea. But the game has an 86 on meta. I think thats a great score. But there are games on other platforms that hit that range and aren't considered evidence of a great library, you know?

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@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:

While the PS4 definitely has the best library of the home consoles by any objective measure, by no metric is its library even a fraction of the PC's.

So the answer to your question is, no.

Man with the awesomeness of U4 being a 10/10, this guy is back in the PS2 days it seems. I remember all this talk about PS2 being the best library and killing PC back then. But at least that console had the enormous amount of extremely high regarded exclusives. This is number 2 TC. At this rate you wont get your head through a door way

Well, I wanna say number 3, because Ratchet and Clank, but yeah. Two and a half years into its life, the PS2 had Final Fantasy X, Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto Vice City, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, SOCOM, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Devil May Cry, Armored Core, Zone of the Enders, Dark Cloud, Onimusha, Twisted Metal Black, Tekken 4, Wild Arms 3, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Dark Cloud 2, War of the Monsters, Zone of the Enders 2, Ape Escape 2, Jak II, Sly Cooper... and this is just the exclusives!

Like, if anyone actually believes the PS4 is even a fraction of what the PS2 was, then they're either very young, or trolling.

I hear ya. R&C has been received well. Never have been my cup of tea. But the game has an 86 on meta. I think thats a great score. But there are games on other platforms that hit that range and aren't considered evidence of a great library, you know?

Ha, that just comes down to nonsensical platform fanboyism, you and I both know that. At the end of the day, that does not matter.

I'm surprised RnC is only 86, for some reason I remembered it being 88- maybe from when there were fewer reviews, I guess.

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Well I will say that PS4 has already surpassed PS3 in terms of exclusives/half exclusives.

PS3 didn't really have anything on the level of Street Fighter V or Bloodborne.

Then again, I thought PS3's exclusive library was pretty dismal overall.

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@charizard1605: Know it all too well, my friend. You going to be up for joining Freedomfreak, getyeryayas and I in U4 MP?

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@cainetao11 said:

@charizard1605: Know it all too well, my friend. You going to be up for joining Freedomfreak, getyeryayas and I in U4 MP?

Definitely! I'll need to resub to PS+ though haha

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@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

@charizard1605: Know it all too well, my friend. You going to be up for joining Freedomfreak, getyeryayas and I in U4 MP?

Definitely! I'll need to resub to PS+ though haha

LOL me too! I wasn't going to as I really don't MP on PSN and the "free" games are junk I don't spend my gaming time on. But I'm going to at least do a month for this.

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@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

@charizard1605: Know it all too well, my friend. You going to be up for joining Freedomfreak, getyeryayas and I in U4 MP?

Definitely! I'll need to resub to PS+ though haha

LOL me too! I wasn't going to as I really don't MP on PSN and the "free" games are junk I don't spend my gaming time on. But I'm going to at least do a month for this.

Yep, PS+ lost my sub in Feb this year, but I supposeI can forgive them now haha.

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@unrealgunner: PC shouldn't be compared to consoles. It's a different machine entirely. We don't compare trucks to cars. Yet here people compare PC to console. I will never understand this behavior, other than PC fans need to feel the need to compete. PC is in a category of it's own. Consoles are in a category of their own. Handhelds are in a category of their own. I always get the response that PC and consoles share many of the same games. Well trucks and cars share the same roads too. LoL!

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You'd have to know very little about what the PC offers to come to that conclusion, and lol comparing the ps4 to the ps2.

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@clr84651 said:

@unrealgunner: PC shouldn't be compared to consoles. It's a different machine entirely. We don't compare trucks to cars. Yet here people compare PC to console. I will never understand this behavior, other than PC fans need to feel the need to compete. PC is in a category of it's own. Consoles are in a category of their own. Handhelds are in a category of their own. I always get the response that PC and consoles share many of the same games. Well trucks and cars share the same roads too. LoL!

No such thing as PC fans a PC = Personal Computer. I think you mean PC gamers. PC gamers don't need to compare to console I mean I look what the console has to over it is just a drop in the ocean compared to PC not to mention the PC is even cheaper and allows us to do so much more than consoles

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@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

@charizard1605: Know it all too well, my friend. You going to be up for joining Freedomfreak, getyeryayas and I in U4 MP?

Definitely! I'll need to resub to PS+ though haha

LOL me too! I wasn't going to as I really don't MP on PSN and the "free" games are junk I don't spend my gaming time on. But I'm going to at least do a month for this.

Yep, PS+ lost my sub in Feb this year, but I supposeI can forgive them now haha.

Forever alone

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PC hasn't done shit this gen. Their only decent exclusive is some 8 bit indie title and Star Shitizen is shaping up to be the biggest Ponzi scheme in video game history. Only reason to own a gaming PC this gen is to play uprezzed Xbone ports or if you're a League of Legends addict. People stay jocking the PC because they're afraid of getting harassed by an angry mob of Neckbeards; but every one knows the truth. PC is for free to play trash and not worth the time money and stigma that's associated with it.

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#30  Edited By the_master_race
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@Pray_to_me said:

PC hasn't done shit this gen. Their only decent exclusive is some 8 bit indie title and Star Shitizen is shaping up to be the biggest Ponzi scheme in video game history. Only reason to own a gaming PC this gen is to play uprezzed Xbone ports or if you're a League of Legends addict. People stay jocking the PC because they're afraid of getting harassed by an angry mob of Neckbeards; but every one knows the truth. PC is for free to play trash and not worth the time money and stigma that's associated with it.

do me a favour and go back to your cave

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Just no

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The fact that PS4 is dominating other consoles in sales doesn't change the fact that in terms of quantity and quality of games, the PC dwarfs it. Not to mention the fact that you get much better graphics on PC, mods etc etc, blablabla and so on. But you already know all this.

Seriously though, I'm happy for redneck gamers that they can get their fix with that little plastic box.

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Total War Warhammer craps on all PS4 exclusives so far :P PS4 is very lucky that Dawn of War 3 is being released only next year otherwise it would be a killing blow.

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Stick a fork in all of the PS4's competition, they're done.

PS4 is coming out with the NEO to beat up Midrange PC's and steam machines at an affordable price.

Sony just brought out a 10/10 exclusive Uncharted 4 the game looks better than any XB1 game.

They also put out Ratchet and Clank that looks better than all mario games on WiiU.

I don't understand how one company can dominate as much as Sony has been doing lately. Sony is going beastmode this generation.

oh yea im sure NEO will kill midranged PCs ... I mean.... you will get to play UC4 in slightly higher framerate and resolution! amazing....

I mean there are totally not a million and 1 pc games that don't even work on a controller...

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There is no definitely about the library, it's completely subjective no matter how hard char tries to convince you other wise.

Sales wise, no contest but that's about it. Everything else is a matter of opinion but you cows(and char) continue to act as if your opinions are fact. We'll just sit back and laugh as usual.

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#37  Edited By casharmy
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Sony consoles ALWAYS end up producing the greatest must have games of the generation that are only available on their systems.

Only ignorant non-gaming goofs bet against PlayStation systems, its the go to system for games for gamers.

People who frequent places like system wars and actually chose xbox one over PlayStation 4 are lost causes.

Those people are gluttons for punishment and destined for buyers remorse because they know PlayStation always deliver on the best game experiences not available anywhere else every generation and they bet against it.

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@Heil68: LOL sorry dude. + just isn't worth my money since I don't MP on it

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#39 LegatoSkyheart
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well PS4 is stealing no thunder from PC, but it does have a solid library of games.

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This is true.....PS4 have dominate and no one can deny this.

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@charizard1605: The X1s library is better than PS4s. Once again you're wrong. I love how you try to pass your opinion as fact though. PS4 is mediocre at best.

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#42 Pedro
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@casharmy said:

Sony consoles ALWAYS end up producing the greatest must have games of the generation that are only available on their systems.

Only ignorant non-gaming goofs bet against PlayStation systems, its the go to system for games for gamers.

People who frequent places like system wars and actually chose xbox one over PlayStation 4 are lost causes.

Those people are gluttons for punishment and destined for buyers remorse because they know PlayStation always deliver on the best game experiences not available anywhere else every generation and they bet against it.

Trying really hard to accept the fact that you bought a system that is going to be obsolete in months and abandon by Sony. Sony is so awesome.

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#43  Edited By AtariKidX
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@primorandomguy said:

@charizard1605: The X1s library is better than PS4s. Once again you're wrong. I love how you try to pass your opinion as fact though. PS4 is mediocre at best.

How you try to pass your opinion as fact.....when the fact is that PS4 is the best console and it have the best library of games of this gen.

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#44 Pedro
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@AtariKidX said:
@primorandomguy said:

@charizard1605: The X1s library is better than PS4s. Once again you're wrong. I love how you try to pass your opinion as fact though. PS4 is mediocre at best.

How you try to pass your opinion as fact.....when the fact is PS4 is the best console and it have the best library of games of this gen.

Oh no. Someone doesn't understand the meaning of the word fact. Now thats scary.

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#45  Edited By Zergforlife
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@milannoir said:

The fact that PS4 is dominating other consoles in sales doesn't change the fact that in terms of quantity and quality of games, the PC dwarfs it. Not to mention the fact that you get much better graphics on PC, mods etc etc, blablabla and so on. But you already know all this.

Seriously though, I'm happy for redneck gamers that they can get their fix with that little plastic box.

Yup. Numerically speaking (averages), PS4's sales and library are still far behind for that to happen. I mean very far behind.

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@Pedro: I guess you forgot to read the part that EVERY game works on both consoles.

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#47  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@milannoir: According to several reviews UC4 is the best looking game PERIOD! Even mentioning PC. That's pretty impressive for a pre-built box.

And how you linked the PS4 to rednecks... that doesn't make much sense.

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#48 GarGx1
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Better than the other consoles? undoubtedly. Better than PC? Not even close. The only people that'll agree with you are trolls and hard core PlayStation fanboys who would agree to anything positive about PS4 and think most of the negatives are good things as well.

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#49 ConanTheStoner
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Yeah, tallest midget award for sure, it's the console to have this gen if you're only gaming on one platform.

But I play more games on my PC every month than I've played on my PS4 since March 2014 lol.

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@Pray_to_me said:

PC hasn't done shit this gen. Their only decent exclusive is some 8 bit indie title and Star Shitizen is shaping up to be the biggest Ponzi scheme in video game history. Only reason to own a gaming PC this gen is to play uprezzed Xbone ports or if you're a League of Legends addict. People stay jocking the PC because they're afraid of getting harassed by an angry mob of Neckbeards; but every one knows the truth. PC is for free to play trash and not worth the time money and stigma that's associated with it.

Yes, because nobody on pc mods. Nobody plays games not only "uprezzing" games, at higher frame rates and better graphics. Nobody likes being able to upgrade and improve their pc with new gpus, cpus and hard drives. I'm not dumping on consoles, but to pretend pc is nothing? pfffft, especially so, considering you have freaking Gabe Newell as your avatar..........