Sony has the biggest console market share, followed by Nintendo and then Microsoft

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#51  Edited By Jag85
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Not an apples-to-oranges comparison:

Sony has PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5.

Xbox has One, One X, Series S and Series X.

Nintendo only has Switch.

The Switch alone has a 31% share, whereas Sony needs to combine multiple consoles to get a 46% share.

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#52 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@Jag85: lol? PS4 and PS4 pro are the same entities. And by that logic, switch has switch and lite. you logic makes no sense lmao. It's CONSOLE market share and Sony is the market leader.

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#53  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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@Jag85 said:

Not an apples-to-oranges comparison:

Sony has PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5.

Xbox has One, One X, Series S and Series X.

Nintendo only has Switch.

The Switch alone has a 31% share, whereas Sony needs to combine multiple consoles to get a 46% share.

Not to mention this is based on revenue, which is just a single pointless metric that includes third party game sales.

If you determine who is winning the console war based on total console sales, total profit and total first party game sales. Nintendo is declared the winner during the Switch years.

SW has always gone by console sales since the beginning as a part of our meta.

Profits, revenue, and the like are for accountants to deal with, not gamers.

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#54 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.

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#55 NathanDrakeSwag
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@wonderwinner said:

I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.

Looks like it even caused another causality lol. Great thread, man.

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#56 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@casey-wegner: he isn't. This is only numbers and systems talk. I'm not resorting to harassment and personal assaults since I have no need for it to win an argument. I bring only cold, hard facts to the table and would gladly concede if Nintendo had the biggest market share, which they don't have for now and might have in the future. No need to get angry, buddy, these are the facts and you have to deal with it.

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#57 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@NathanDrakeSwag: I didn't expect things to turn out this way. Guess some people can't handle facts, just conjecture.

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#58 Casey-Wegner
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@wonderwinner said:

I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.

I never saw anybody personally attack you, but it's obvious to everyone this thread was just started because of the thread where Switch has been dominating Playstation for 3 years, and is outselling every piece of Sony hardware ever created. It just looks like you cherrypicked an old revenue article because you were upset.

That's fine I suppose to love Sony and defend them, but don't try to act "baffled" when people call you out on your behavior ;) comes across like you're trolling.

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#59 VFighter
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@casey-wegner: Nice meltdown 🤣

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#60  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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Just calling it like I see it.

Will the PS5 do well? Sure.

Will it start putting up Switch "expanded audience" 28.8 million a year good when the best the PS4 could do was 20 million in a year?

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#61 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@casey-wegner: time will tell. But Sony currently has the biggest market share.

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#62 Casey-Wegner
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@casey-wegner: time will tell. But Sony currently has the biggest market share.

Nope. Not by any previously used metric on SW. This system wars, not revenue wars.

Switch is currently the best selling console, and on pace to be the best selling console ever, and Nintendo did it without AAA third parties, which is what the "revenue" in your cherry picked article is referring to.

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#63  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@casey-wegner: @nathandrakeswag: the guy said something about previous metrics. An alt, perhaps? I don't know what these metrics are and in these 6 or so months I've been here, nobody ever said anything like that, the guy is trying to distort facts and is an alt.

Look, who care about arbitrary metrics? The facts are as exposed in the article, Sony currently is the market leader and holds the biggest market share, 46%>31%. There's no way around this, you can try and spin but this fact won't change. Stay mad at the numbers, but they don't lie. Maybe in the future Nintendo will be first place but right now, they aren't. This discussion is over and unless you're able to provide market share numbers that contradict the article, there's nothing to discuss anymore. Sony, 1, Nintendo 2, MS distant last.

Cold, hard facts. 😎

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#64 KvallyX
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Sounds like cows are pissed that the Switch is demolishing the PS5 😂😂

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#65 NathanDrakeSwag
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@x_hedon said:

Sounds like cows are pissed that the Switch is demolishing the PS5 😂😂

Imagine hiding behind a system you hate because your precious XSX/S is already in a distant dead last after just 8 months

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#66 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@x_hedon: except it isn't accord to the cold, hard facts, 46>31>23. Xbox is dead last, so... 🤷🏻‍♂️

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#67  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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@x_hedon said:

Sounds like cows are pissed that the Switch is demolishing the PS5 😂😂

😂

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@casey-wegner: Any market share data contradicting the article? No? Well, I gladly accept your concession of defeat. 😎

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#69 KvallyX
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@NathanDrakeSwag: all 3 of my systems are in 1, 2 and 3. I win 😂😂

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#70 KvallyX
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85 million in 4 years. Expected to be at 100 million in just 4.5 years. Holy shit!!

https://venturebeat.com/2021/05/06/nintendo-switch-hits-84-59-million-units-sold-with-28-8-million-sold-this-past-year/

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#71 LuxuryHeart
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Sheesh. It's a tough year for cows it seems.

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#72 Pedro
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So, Sony market share dropped by 3%, MS 1% and Nintendo went up? Is that what you are saying OP? 😎

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@wonderwinner said:

@Jag85: lol? PS4 and PS4 pro are the same entities. And by that logic, switch has switch and lite. you logic makes no sense lmao. It's CONSOLE market share and Sony is the market leader.

Your post is completely irrational. PS4 Pro is an upgrade, not the same console. Switch is the same console in a different packaging. The equivalent to the Switch Lite is the PS4 Slim (the PS4 in a different packaging), not the PS4 Pro (an upgrade).

Sony is the market leader only if you combine hardware/software/online revenue for the PS4, PS4P and PS5 combined. Even if you counted the PS4P as the same console as the PS4, you're still comparing two Sony consoles against a single Nintendo console. It's a completely nonsensical comparison that makes no logical sense whatsoever.

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#74  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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The near future isn't 'console market' share but 'cloud market' share. Microsoft is playing to win a monopoly on the future of gaming while Sony is currently playing the way of Blockbuster and Toys 'R Us.

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#75  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@Jag85: lol dat desperation.

Switch is not only one console, they have two models, the basic OG switch and the cheaper, lite one. This alone demolishes your pathetic reasoning and attempt at damage control.

The article and data has spoken. Sony 46, Nintendo 31, MS 23. Cold, hard data, everything else is conjecture.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Feel free to bring more articles and data to support your failure of a point, I dare you.

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#77  Edited By Jag85
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@wonderwinner:

Once again, your posts are completely devoid of any reason or logic whatsoever.

Your argument is demolished by basic mathematics:

  • Switch = 31%
  • PS4 + PS5 = 46% (average 23% per console)
  • Xbox One + Series = 23% (average 11.5% per console)

This is according to your own data, which you have no clue how to interpret due to your lack of education in mathematics.

You're comparing entire companies, not individual consoles. Trying to use the combined hardware/software/online revenue of both the PS4 and PS5 in order to try claim victory over the Switch is just pure desperation.

No need for anymore data, as that was already presented to you earlier in the thread:

@casey-wegner said:

Switch is again on pace to sell over 25 million this year and PS5 has sold 8 million

Sony constanly celebrated PS4 has never reached over 20 million in a single year on the market

Switch did 28.8

These are the hard, cold statistical facts. The Switch is the fastest-selling console of all time. Fact. Deal with it.

"Facts don't care about your feelings." I suggest you take your own advice, evident from your failure in comprehending basic facts.

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#78  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@Jag85: spin how much you want, the numbers are as shown, 46>31>23.

Cold, hard facts.

I knew in advance some people would get upset, I didnt expect this level of butthurt. 😎

And according to your logic: Switch + Switch lite = 31% (average 15,5% per console)

It's even worse now. 🤣

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#79 Mesome713
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Dang, cows got owned again. And what’s sadder, is Sony market share in 2021 dropped even worst. Switch just can’t be stopped, it’s fastest selling console of all time.

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It looked like a cow, sheep, standoff but nah, it was all for show, they just kissed in the end.

lol :P

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#81 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@SecretPolice: MS 23% 🤣

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@wonderwinner:

Yet MS could buy both Phony and Nintendont using only their pocket change. lolol It's good to be King. :P

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@SecretPolice: it doesn't matter. 23% 🤣.

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#84 Jag85
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@wonderwinner:

What kind of silly argument is that, mate?

If you want to drag the Switch Lite into it, then you'll have to also bring the PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro into it:

  • Switch + Lite = 31% (average 15.5% per model)
  • PS4 + Slim + Pro + PS5 = 46% (average 11.5% per model)

The average of each Switch model is still higher than the average of each PlayStation model.

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I don't care about sales but I do hope Nintendo keeps owning it just for the perpetual meltdowns.

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#86  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@Jag85: the same you're using it. We're talking market share, not console sales. Sony 46% and there's nothing you can do about it.

Deal with it. 😎

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@wonderwinner:

It's all that matters.

lol :P

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#88 Techhog89
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@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

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#89 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

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@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:

@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅

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@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:

@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅

There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.

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#92 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:

@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅

There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.

Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.

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#93 hardwenzen
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@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:

@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅

There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.

Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.

"Nothing any of us gamers" lol you're a massive lem, not a gamer.🤣

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#94  Edited By KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:

4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.

LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅

There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.

Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.

"Nothing any of us gamers" lol you're a massive lem, not a gamer.🤣

But why are you lying? That is the question.

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#95 hardwenzen
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@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭

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#96 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:

@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭

Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.

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#97 hardwenzen
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@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:

@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭

Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.

Nice lies. Always pretending.

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#98 KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@hardwenzen said:

@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭

Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.

Nice lies. Always pretending.

Please, stop lying. I love you.

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#99  Edited By Techhog89
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@hardwenzen: It's not exclusive if it's coming to PS4. 🤗

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#100 hardwenzen
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@techhog89 said:

@hardwenzen: It's not exclusive if it's coming to PS4. 🤗

Everything is on the Xbone or PC when it comes to the Series X, and everyone is calling its games exclusive, so its time to name everything releasing on the PS5 as exclusive, cuz why the hell not.