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#1 ImportBMWRacer
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Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

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And MS ? :D
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Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

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Just warning you here, I made a thread similar to this two years ago and I was modded for flame-baiting or whatever.
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#4 ImportBMWRacer
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And MS ? :DGeneralShowzer
Supposedly Microsoft only Releases SOL Numbers, but who knows. I am just going by what was stated! :P
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#5 ImportBMWRacer
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[QUOTE="BaraChat"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

Just warning you here, I made a thread similar to this two years ago and I was modded for flame-baiting or whatever.

Eh I expect usual System war discussion, though I do not Condone Trolls, or other meanies in this Forum.:P
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#6 megaspiderweb09
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I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

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#7 ImportBMWRacer
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I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

megaspiderweb09

Aiming to achieve what all the other threads that deal with Sales. SO does this mean that PS3 is actually Farther behind Microsoft than orignally thought? What does it mean by the numbers thought to be correct for SOny before?

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#8 GeneralShowzer
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I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

megaspiderweb09
If this isn't connected to System Wars, i don't know what is.
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#9 Sandvichman
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I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

megaspiderweb09
What does it have to achieve`?
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#10 BigBoss154
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You mean the article claims. Not Sony. It's obvious the author hasn't seen Sony's latest figures released last week.

EDIT: I still see nothing in that article that says Sony says they sold 41m.

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#11 lundy86_4
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It makes sense for it to be sell-through. Shipped units stand at around 48 million IIRC.

Dunno what 360's sell-through numbers are.

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#12 APiranhaAteMyVa
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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

according to this Sony have shipped 47.9 million units, and that doesn't include q4 of 2010.

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#13 ImportBMWRacer
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You mean the article claims. Not Sony. It's obvious the author hasn't seen Sony's latest figures released last week.

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The article is going by the Papers submitted by Sony to Court, go ahead and read those. The site is stating what sony has claimed.
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#14 APiranhaAteMyVa
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It makes sense for it to be sell-through. Shipped units stand at around 48 million IIRC.

Dunno what 360's sell-through numbers are.

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I thought the companies only ever announce shipped units?
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#15 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

Sandvichman
What does it have to achieve`?

Exactly, there's no logic in SW it's all about trolling the people who don't have your console.
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#16 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It makes sense for it to be sell-through. Shipped units stand at around 48 million IIRC.

Dunno what 360's sell-through numbers are.

APiranhaAteMyVa

I thought the companies only ever announce shipped units?

Yep. They do. Hence why I don't know the 360's sell-through numbers.

Dunno why this makes thread-worthy news. It's kinda obvious that sell-through numbers would be less than shipped numbers :P

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#17 ImportBMWRacer
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[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It makes sense for it to be sell-through. Shipped units stand at around 48 million IIRC.

Dunno what 360's sell-through numbers are.

I thought the companies only ever announce shipped units?

From what I have Heard(could mean anything) that MS & Nintendo do sold, while Sony does shipped. Does it really matter? In SW it sure does, but really how can we truly know? All I know is what Sony is now claiming(ostb).
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#18 BigBoss255
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Sony have shipped at least 48 million PS3s, MS have shipped at least 50. Sony probably have only actually sold 41 million though MS have probably sold around 43. I don't know why Lems play sales so much, all it will do is lead to ownage when PS3 inevitably overtakes 360.

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#19 iAtrocious
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And the Wii has sold more than 85 million! :lol:

I didn't know it was that much ahead of the 360 and the PS3. But still, if the PS3 only sold 41 million units.. it is quite behind the 360.

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#20 FIipMode
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It doesn't say in that article that Sony said they sold 41 million PS3s. 41 million sold is what the author said.
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#21 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

You mean the article claims. Not Sony. It's obvious the author hasn't seen Sony's latest figures released last week.

ImportBMWRacer

The article is going by the Papers submitted by Sony to Court, go ahead and read those. The site is stating what sony has claimed.

I looked through both PDF documents linked there, and found nothing. :?

Link to the PDF? Wait...there's a PDF that isn't downloading. It could be that one.

Edit: Nope, it's not in that one either.

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#22 ImportBMWRacer
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It doesn't say in that article that Sony said they sold 41 million PS3s. 41 million sold is what the author said.FIipMode
"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold." :roll:
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#23 mejiseike
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Its at like 48 million as of the beging of this year world wide

360 is around 51 million

wii is at 85 million

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#24 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]It doesn't say in that article that Sony said they sold 41 million PS3s. 41 million sold is what the author said.ImportBMWRacer
"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold." :roll:

And that was no where to be found in either PDF files.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]It doesn't say in that article that Sony said they sold 41 million PS3s. 41 million sold is what the author said.ImportBMWRacer
"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold." :roll:

Yes, but which part of that statement is the claim Sony is making? The author could have easily just tacked on the 41 million bit, while Sony just claimed it would eat into game sales.
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#26 fusionhunter
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Everytime PS3 reaches another 10 million sales the hardware improves.....no just kidding lol

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#27 ImportBMWRacer
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[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]It doesn't say in that article that Sony said they sold 41 million PS3s. 41 million sold is what the author said.DerekLoffin
"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold." :roll:

Yes, but which part of that statement is the claim Sony is making? The author could have easily just tacked on the 41 million bit, while Sony just claimed it would eat into game sales.

Thats true, who knows? All I know is that a reputable publisher has stated that sony has sold 41 million PS3s in reference to their court docs.

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#28 NWA90s
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Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

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hondas sell more then ferraris
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#29 ImportBMWRacer
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[QUOTE="NWA90s"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

hondas sell more then ferraris

What is your point? Obviously the analogy is not as easy to compare as the HD twins, as they are much more similar than a "Honda" & "Ferrari". If you were implying that the 360 is a honda in comparison to a PS3(Ferrari) than I suggest you take off those goggles.
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Late last year, wasn't it reported they had sold over 45 million? I remember hearing that.
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#33 FIipMode
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Late last year, wasn't it reported they had sold over 45 million? I remember hearing that.Doolz2024
This article is a bust anyway. Nowhere in those links does it have Sony saying they sold 41 million.
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#34 NWA90s
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[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"][QUOTE="NWA90s"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

hondas sell more then ferraris

What is your point? Obviously the analogy is not as easy to compare as the HD twins, as they are much more similar than a "Honda" & "Ferrari". If you were implying that the 360 is a honda in comparison to a PS3(Ferrari) than I suggest you take off those goggles.

how about this one. the xbox 360 is a toyota while the ps3 is a merc benz?
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#35 EG101
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Late last year, wasn't it reported they had sold over 45 million? I remember hearing that.FIipMode
This article is a bust anyway. Nowhere in those links does it have Sony saying they sold 41 million.

"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold."

That was the exact quote.

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[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I ask,what is this thread aiming to achieve ?

Sandvichman

What does it have to achieve`?

whoever have the biggest e-penis is my guess

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I read in a article a few weeks back they have sold over 50 million worldwide. If i recall, it was 57.5 million.
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#38 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Late last year, wasn't it reported they had sold over 45 million? I remember hearing that.EG101

This article is a bust anyway. Nowhere in those links does it have Sony saying they sold 41 million.

"Sony claims the hacks will eat into game sales for the 41 million PS3 units sold."

That was the exact quote.

Wat. You think I didn't read the article myself? lol The author said 41 million. In none of the links or PDF files does it have Sony saying they sold 41 million PS3s.
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I read in a article a few weeks back they have sold over 50 million worldwide. If i recall, it was 57.5 million.djsifer01
hmmm i read the same thing i think you got the units sold to software attachments mixed up if im not mistaken

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#40 ShadowDeathX
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and Sony's ratio of console's sold/time of availability is still much higher then Microsoft's. haha I win =)...>.>
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#41 shinrabanshou
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These are just outdated figures from fiscal reports. The court filings were made prior to the release of the last quarters results. This will of course be ignored.

None of the console manufacturers report sell-through.

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#42 Doolz2024
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I read in a article a few weeks back they have sold over 50 million worldwide. If i recall, it was 57.5 million.djsifer01
And where exactly did you get that information? :?

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[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It makes sense for it to be sell-through. Shipped units stand at around 48 million IIRC.

Dunno what 360's sell-through numbers are.

ImportBMWRacer

I thought the companies only ever announce shipped units?

From what I have Heard(could mean anything) that MS & Nintendo do sold, while Sony does shipped. Does it really matter? In SW it sure does, but really how can we truly know? All I know is what Sony is now claiming(ostb).

Wow. How many times does this have to be explained to people.

It is impossible for any company to know how many consoles have been sold to consumers. This is a fact. There is literally nobody who tracks this detailed level of information on a world wide scale. Even companies like NPD only provide an educated estimate because they can't possibly ask every single retailer for their exact "sold to customers" number.

There is only the number of units manufactured and the number of units shipped to retailers.There is no units sold and if any company says otherwise they are referring to the number of consoles they have sold to retailers...in other words the "shipped" numbers.

This is just getting ridiculous and if people don't get it by now they have no business even being on a gaming website to begin with.

As for why the discrepancy? I don't know. They could just be guessing how many are sold to customers.

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[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"][QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"] I thought the companies only ever announce shipped units?ZIMdoom

From what I have Heard(could mean anything) that MS & Nintendo do sold, while Sony does shipped. Does it really matter? In SW it sure does, but really how can we truly know? All I know is what Sony is now claiming(ostb).

Wow. How many times does this have to be explained to people.

It is impossible for any company to know how many consoles have been sold to consumers. This is a fact. There is literally nobody who tracks this detailed level of information on a world wide scale. Even companies like NPD only provide an educated estimate because they can't possibly ask every single retailer for their exact "sold to customers" number.

There is only the number of units manufactured and the number of units shipped to retailers.There is no units sold and if any company says otherwise they are referring to the number of consoles they have sold to retailers...in other words the "shipped" numbers.

This is just getting ridiculous and if people don't get it by now they have no business even being on a gaming website to begin with.

As for why the discrepancy? I don't know. They could just be guessing how many are sold to customers.

The discrepancy is the author of the article's mistake. The filings don't mention 41 million, only the article, so clearly that number was tacked on by the author.
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[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Is this right? Well according to Sony, they have only sold 41 Million PS3s.

I dont care at all about Sales, But System War Fanboys seem to, so I would just like to see what everyone thinks, and what this means about the Gap between the HD twins.8)

NWA90s

hondas sell more then ferraris

I think thats perfect in describing the Wii vs the PS3.

The PS3 and the 360 are only 3 mill apart and looking at hte lineup for the 360 this year that could change soon.

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They must have misspoke.

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

From what I have Heard(could mean anything) that MS & Nintendo do sold, while Sony does shipped. Does it really matter? In SW it sure does, but really how can we truly know? All I know is what Sony is now claiming(ostb).ImportBMWRacer

Wow. How many times does this have to be explained to people.

It is impossible for any company to know how many consoles have been sold to consumers. This is a fact. There is literally nobody who tracks this detailed level of information on a world wide scale. Even companies like NPD only provide an educated estimate because they can't possibly ask every single retailer for their exact "sold to customers" number.

There is only the number of units manufactured and the number of units shipped to retailers.There is no units sold and if any company says otherwise they are referring to the number of consoles they have sold to retailers...in other words the "shipped" numbers.

This is just getting ridiculous and if people don't get it by now they have no business even being on a gaming website to begin with.

As for why the discrepancy? I don't know. They could just be guessing how many are sold to customers.

The discrepancy is the author of the article's mistake. The filings don't mention 41 million, only the article, so clearly that number was tacked on by the author.

This. Did people even read the link? Its not at all about sales and its an obvious mistake by the website.
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Ur gonna take something a lawyer or spokesman said as te facts...come on tc
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Ur gonna take something a lawyer or spokesman said as te facts...come on tcstereointegrity

if im not mistaken he asked a question....

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] The discrepancy is the author of the article's mistake. The filings don't mention 41 million, only the article, so clearly that number was tacked on by the author.blue_hazy_basic
This. Did people even read the link? Its not at all about sales and its an obvious mistake by the website.

The original TRO motion predating the Q3 earnings release mentions the figure, presumably that's where Wired got their outdated number.