So it turns out PS3 can actually emulate most PS2 games....

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#1 Gue1
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=526722

This guy got ahold of the emulator Sony uses to play the PS2 classics on the PS3 and he has tested it with multiple games and all of them are playing fine at full speed. Tested games list: edit: the site with the list has instructions on how to install CFW and stuff so I'm not gonna post it.

 

Now the question is, are Sony lying about the PS4 not able to emulate PS3? Because Sony could release this emulator at any given time is just that they don't want to but you can install it through CFW. I told you Sony was starting to become scummy like M$!

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#2 KarateeeChop
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maybe sony thinks withholding BC could finally give the ps3 a chance to crawl out of last place after all these years. :o

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#3 Blabadon
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The PS3 runs the Cell, which was expensive and god awful for devs to code on at first. Making it part of the PS4 just for the sake of BC seems like a horrible idea. Still, I love my BC OG 60GB PS3. Without BC, I would have taken even longer to play the greatest game ever, Shadow of the Colossus.
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#4 DarthaPerkinjan
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Sony has a long way to go to reach Microsoft levels of scummyness

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#5 Krelian-co
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maybe sony thinks withholding BC could finally give the ps3 a chance to crawl out of last place after all these years. :o

KarateeeChop

that would be logic if it weren't for the small fact it already outsold 360 even with A WHOLE YEAR of advantage.

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#6 Obviously_Right
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Emulation discussion?

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#7 Douevenlift_bro
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maybe sony thinks withholding BC could finally give the ps3 a chance to crawl out of last place after all these years. :o

KarateeeChop

The 360 is sitting comfortabely in last place though...

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#8 CaptainGamespot
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i read legal issues prevent sony to an extent w/emulation

game testing and crashing is nother problm

liscensing is also problem

original ps3 didnt emulate, it had ps2 inside of it therefor no legal issues.

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#9 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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pfff PC can emulate PS2 games and many more platforms too 

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#10 LadyBlue
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pfff PC can emulate PS2 games and many more platforms too 

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I think you missed the point. :P

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#11 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

pfff PC can emulate PS2 games and many more platforms too 

Pete-B

I think you missed the point. :P

Nah, I just don't care all that much :P

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#12 WilliamRLBaker
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lol morons actually believe sony has less black spots in the gaming industry than MS.
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#13 Teuf_
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Emulation discussion?

inb4lock

Obviously_Right



It's okay to talk about emulators. It's not okay to talk about where to get them, or where to get roms.

Anyway the guy who posted that thread has no idea what he's talking about if he really thinks it's "easy" to test and approve hundred of PS2 games. You're talking about thousands and thousands of QA hours. Also the PS2 is really difficult for the PS3 to emulate...I would suspect the emulator will have significant problems with some of the higher-profile PS2 games that really pushed the hardware to its limit.

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#14 ConanTheStoner
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lol morons actually believe sony has less black spots in the gaming industry than MS.WilliamRLBaker

Why does it gotta be a black thing?

Typical Xbox loving racist kid.  :roll:

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#15 Chris_Williams
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why can't people just keep the console they wanna play games with, are people really becoming this lazy and this self entitled?

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#16 ConanTheStoner
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why can't people just keep the console they wanna play games with, are people really becoming this lazy and this self entitled?

Chris_Williams

Oh just bend over for 'em why dont cha?  In all honesty, I think we should have forward compatibility as well.  Greedy companies making us keep our old consoles AND buy new consoles?  Bullsh*t!  :x

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#17 StrongDeadlift
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They patented a full Cell based software emulator in like 2008 or something.  

The only reason Sony didnt introduce it into the PS3 (and also why they removed the already available hardware/software BC from the PS3) is because Sony was losing money on every PS3 console sold, while PS2 makes huge profit margins.  

If BC was available, then people would have no need to buy a PS2, and would have just bought PS3's (for a loss), when instead they can make them buy a PS3 (for a loss) AND a PS2 (for a profit).  Keep in mind the PS2 has sold like 6-9 million each year this gen, and was only discontinued a few months ago.  

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#18 EzcapeTheFate
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Dont worry, Microsoft stays true to real gamers with backwards compat. Sony just chasing that dollar.
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#19 kitty  Moderator
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I knew this from the beginning. I think it was a silly move to take it away from us. It wouldn't hurt to let us keep it and still put ps2 games on the psn store.
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#20 LongZhiZi
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I'm not surprised one bit.
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#21 Epak_
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Well **** you Sony.

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#22 KiZZo1
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Is there a working emulator for PS3 running on any hardware at all? I haven't heard at least.

As for PS2 emulation, they can obviously add it, especially on PS4.

Though I don't understand why they haven't released more PS2 games on PSN, if that emulator works well.

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#23 LegatoSkyheart
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Everyone should have known this if they had a Fat 60GB or 80GB.

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#24 locopatho
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Yeah Sony just ripped it out to sell HD collections. Thank you Sony.
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#26 HalcyonScarlet
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If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

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#27 HalcyonScarlet
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Yeah Sony just ripped it out to sell HD collections. Thank you Sony.locopatho

lol yeah pedal to the metal sony. :lol:

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#29 rrjim1
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

maybe sony thinks withholding BC could finally give the ps3 a chance to crawl out of last place after all these years. :o

Douevenlift_bro

The 360 is sitting comfortabely in last place though...

Only in your dreams!

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#30 no-scope-AK47
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You can play any ps2 game in 1080p on pc using pcsx2 so why hack your ps3 ??

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#31 DISSESHOWEDO
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If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

HalcyonScarlet

Emulation and HD are two different things ! I'm happy with some of the HD remixes, as i missed on alot of games from the PS2 era !

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]lol morons actually believe sony has less black spots in the gaming industry than MS.ConanTheStoner

Why does it gotta be a black thing?

Typical Xbox loving racist kid.  :roll:

you do a diservice to Thulsa Doom by wearing that avatar.
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#33 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

DISSESHOWEDO

Emulation and HD are two different things ! I'm happy with some of the HD remixes, as i missed on alot of games from the PS2 era !

If sony wanted they could release this updated to include higher resolutions, partial AA, and certain filters...Just like pcxs2 which was made by some guys in a basement SEE: not paid sony engineers..hell the hardware based ps3's have horrible resolution and filtering its actually quite funny when sony got called out on it ffx was the game used to show that ps3 ps2 play back was horribly inferior to just playing the game on your ps2 via component then sony released a patch it still was inferior. When they had psychonauts for saleon psn I had to go buy the game on xbox originals as well because it was so blurry on the ps3 it started making me sick.
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#34 rjdofu
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Thank you, Sony. :)
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#35 Klipsh
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I feel like the only one who can still play ps2 games on my ps3

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#36 princeofshapeir
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If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

HalcyonScarlet
Surprise, surprise! Turns out those HD ports were nothing but shameless efforts to swindle gullible gamers! We had no idea that HD ports were a ripoff before, either!
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#37 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

princeofshapeir
Surprise, surprise! Turns out those HD ports were nothing but shameless efforts to swindle gullible gamers! We had no idea that HD ports were a ripoff before, either!

you didnt' have to buy them ya know
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#38 nameless12345
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The discontinued 60 gig "fat" model could do software PS2 emulation as it had the PS2 "Emotion Engine" inside.

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#39 HaloinventedFPS
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PS3 always had software emulation, but they want you to rebuy the games (HD remasters or classics from PSN)

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#40 Epak_
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The discontinued 60 gig "fat" model could do software PS2 emulation as it had the PS2 "Emotion Engine" inside.

nameless12345

Common knowledge. These guys run PS2 games on PS3 slims.

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#41 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

If true, Sony has been screwing their fans all this time, withholding BC so they can sell the games back to them in "HD". :o

Chris_Williams

Surprise, surprise! Turns out those HD ports were nothing but shameless efforts to swindle gullible gamers! We had no idea that HD ports were a ripoff before, either!

you didnt' have to buy them ya know

Of course not, but claiming your console is incapable of BC when it is and releasing expensive HD ports instead is sad.

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#42 Timstuff
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This is part of why I am getting sick of consoles. PC has nearly 100% backwards compatibility with pretty much everything from the Apple 2 onward, including almost all of the legacy game consoles. With PS3, they intentionally removed backwards compatibility because they realized they could make more money by re-selling you the games you already own.
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#43 StrongDeadlift
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PS3 always had software emulation, but they want you to rebuy the games (HD remasters or classics from PSN)

HaloinventedFPS
And more importantly, they wanted you to keep buying PS2s.
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#44 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Surprise, surprise! Turns out those HD ports were nothing but shameless efforts to swindle gullible gamers! We had no idea that HD ports were a ripoff before, either! princeofshapeir

you didnt' have to buy them ya know

Of course not, but claiming your console is incapable of BC when it is and releasing expensive HD ports instead is sad.

dude thats business, the ps2 was selling like crazy for a good 2 years after the ps3 launched. Why wouldn't try to milk that well dry and what are you even complaining about. You can play those old games anytime you please, ps2's are cheap and you can surely find the game your looking for on the web. Stop acting like a self entitled brat
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you didnt' have to buy them ya knowChris_Williams

Of course not, but claiming your console is incapable of BC when it is and releasing expensive HD ports instead is sad.

dude thats business, the ps2 was selling like crazy for a good 2 years after the ps3 launched. Why wouldn't try to milk that well dry and what are you even complaining about. You can play those old games anytime you please, ps2's are cheap and you can surely find the game your looking for on the web. Stop acting like a self entitled brat

Yeah I'm sorry. It must be self-entitled of me to expect consoles to play older games. I realize only my PC is capable of that.
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#46 The_Power_of_X
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Why not play them on your pc? As long as you still have the original disc and console itself it is not illegal. I have been playing my PS2 games in HD since my PS2 disc drive died a couple of years ago. 

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#47 kuraimen
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The Cell keeps on getting better. The thing evolves by itself, like Cell.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Surprise, surprise! Turns out those HD ports were nothing but shameless efforts to swindle gullible gamers! We had no idea that HD ports were a ripoff before, either! princeofshapeir

you didnt' have to buy them ya know

Of course not, but claiming your console is incapable of BC when it is and releasing expensive HD ports instead is sad.

Well said.

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#49 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you didnt' have to buy them ya knowHalcyonScarlet

Of course not, but claiming your console is incapable of BC when it is and releasing expensive HD ports instead is sad.

Well said.

i complement you both on your complete ignorance of programming to different architechtures and the effort it takes to make an hd re release. Releasing a hd port is different than being able of put a game made to run on a ps2, but hey, its not only you here in SW that talks without knowing the first thing of what they are talking about.

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#50 blackace
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=526722

This guy got ahold of the emulator Sony uses to play the PS2 classics on the PS3 and he has tested it with multiple games and all of them are playing fine at full speed. Tested games list: edit: the site with the list has instructions on how to install CFW and stuff so I'm not gonna post it.

 

Now the question is, are Sony lying about the PS4 not able to emulate PS3? Because Sony could release this emulator at any given time is just that they don't want to but you can install it through CFW. I told you Sony was starting to become scummy like M$!

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What is CFW? I hate acronyms.