Scorpio: Short Teaser ( Feel True Power)

@commander: So, what you're saying is, you're excited for Scorpio but you don't and won't care about graphics? I'm glad we got that out of the way.

of course I care about graphics but I also care about convenience, security and standardization.

@commander: Then I don't know why you interjected on a conversation that was very clearly about graphics and graphical performance. Like I reiterate, 6ish tflops isn't new territory. In fact, double that is readily available.

not in a console

Scorpio has 6 TFLOPS FP32 with double subword Int16/FP16 which increases data processing for Int16/FP16 while keeping math operation per cycle rate the same.

PS4 Pro has 4.2 TFLOPS FP32 with double math operation per cycle rate for Int16/FP16

Proper FP16 feature is missing for GP104 and GP102, but has Int16.

Scorpio is the first PolarisPlus GPU with more than 300 Gbps memory bandwidth and with L2 cache being use for 4K rendering.

PS4 Pro has PolarisPlus GPU with Vega NCU and old school Polaris cache/memory subsystem i.e. Pixel Engine not connected to L2 cache.

@ronvalencia: And at the snd of July, Vega will be here. Wee!

you may want to start with the sentence that the scorpio will get more out of that 6tflops than any pc gpu would.

RX-470 will run the same games as with any future Vega 11 i.e. Polaris 10 size chip with Vega NCU and Pixel Engine connected to L2 cache.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

We quadrupled the GPU L2 cache size, again for targeting the 4K performance."

XBO version is already tiled render game and GPU's 2MB L2 cache was used to reach 4K in addition to GPU's allocated "more than 300 Gbps memory bandwidth".

Existing AMD GPU's pixel engines are not even connected to L2 cache. MS selected Vega's second major improvement which is not NCU.

When you have a rendering chain like 2 MB L2 cache <--> "more than 300 Gbps memory bandwidth" with 6 TFLOPS GPU, that's effectively cloning GTX 980 Ti's cache/memory setup.

GTX 980 Ti's 6 TFLOPS result is the closest version.

Apple has Radeon Pro Vega 56 8 GB and Vega 64 16 GB before PC market.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-pro-vega-56-and-vega-64-spotted-in-imac-pro-specs

https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/specs/

Hopefully, MS releases new Surface Studio SKUs with new GPUs e.g. GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti.

@ronvalencia said:

@Shewgenja said:

@ronvalencia: And at the snd of July, Vega will be here. Wee!

Apple has Radeon Pro Vega 56 8 GB and Vega 64 16 GB before PC market.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-pro-vega-56-and-vega-64-spotted-in-imac-pro-specs

https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/specs/

Hopefully, MS releases new Surface Studio SKUs with new GPUs e.g. GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti.

That is what has kept me from getting the Surface Studio, waiting for a spec bump and newer gpu's to drive that awesome display.

I do feel the true power. On PC.

Yeah, who ever has cared about power in a console...sheeze

Only if the owned GPU is greater than GTX 1060 or RX-580 or R9-390X. Anything less is just cheer squad.

I think $399 is all but guaranteed at this point. They killed themselves launching at 500. They would be dumb to make the same mistake twice.