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#1 FireEmblem_Man
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- based on the IBM 710 Express chip
- underclocked at 3 GHz
- comes with 4 cores and 8 threads
- 20X faster than the chip found in the Wii
- made by IBM and is based on their POWER 7 architecture
- built on 45nm
- the standard has 6 cores and runs at speeds of up to 3.7 GHz
- 710 Express chip can also execute 4 threads per core at the same
- Nintendo has scaled this down for Wii U
- threads per core will go down from 4 to 2
- roughly ?around 50% more powerful than current gen systems

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/05/wii-u-cpu-said-to-support-8-threads-is-20x-faster-than-wii/

Just one more week! My body is....

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#2 Slashless
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I just want to be able to play Nintendo Games.

That's all I ask.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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how is this surprising to people?

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#4 CDUB316
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only rougly one more week until this is all cleared up...tired of rumors

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#5 OhSnapitz
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So... it'll be equal in power to the 360/PS3.. Thanks for the info. :D

:P

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#6 LP4EVA2005
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dont know what any of that means but i'll assume its awesome

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#7 EmperorBrosphus
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Well, considering that the Wii was a marginal improvement over the Cube, that sounds about right for a decade and a half of Moore's law.
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#8 TheOwnerOner
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My cell phone is 20X more power then the Wii
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#9 Shinobi120
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So... it'll be equal in power to the 360/PS3.. Thanks for the info. :D

:P

OhSnapitz

So a Power 7 CPU, a rumored HD 4750 (or HD 4870), & a rumored 2 GB of RAM is equal to 360/PS3 in power? :|

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#10 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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So... it'll be equal in power to the 360/PS3.. Thanks for the info. :D

:P

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50% more powerful than the HD twins, it's in the OP :P
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#11 theuncharted34
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That's no rumor >_>

In fact it'll be more than 20x.

EDIT : Also i'm pretty sure it'll have 4 threads per core.

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#12 FireEmblem_Man
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That's no rumor >_>

In fact it'll be more than 20x.

EDIT : Also i'm pretty sure it'll have 4 threads per core.

theuncharted34

As the article stated, the CPU has 2 cores disabled and also disabled 6 threads. Yet still, the CPU is pretty powerful

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#13 GamerwillzPS
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I just want to be able to play Nintendo Games.

That's all I ask.

Slashless

Damn you filthy casual muppet. :P

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#14 psymon100
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I'm quite excited to see Nintendo's E3 conference, the Wii U is sounding more and more attractive the more I learn about it. I've never owned a Nintendo before, and I could be pursuaded to buy this one.

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#15 ChubbyGuy40
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Roughly 50% more powerful than current gen CPUs? It'll be a lot better than that.

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#16 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

That's no rumor >_>

In fact it'll be more than 20x.

EDIT : Also i'm pretty sure it'll have 4 threads per core.

FireEmblem_Man

As the article stated, the CPU has 2 cores disabled and also disabled 6 threads. Yet still, the CPU is pretty powerful

I know about the core's, I still doubt they'll disable threads.

It'll have a CPU like this all right, IBM confirmed it, but everything i've read on Beyond 3d and from guys like Timmothy Lottes suggest it'll more than likely have 4 threads per cycle. Might not, but it's more likely.

Either way, yeah, it's powerful.

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#17 GamerwillzPS
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If Nintendo is making the Wii-U a little bit more hardcore, they could gain another customer. (Me)

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#18 Kashiwaba
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If its anything around PS3 level then I'm down I'm not a graphic whore.

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#19 theuncharted34
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Roughly 50% more powerful than current gen CPUs? It'll be a lot better than that.

ChubbyGuy40

I didn't even see that.

Yeah, this rumor's half baked.

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#20 Wasdie  Moderator
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That ain't saying much.

Law of dimishing returns applies.

The Xbox 360 was roughly 20x the power of the Xbox when it was all said and done. So the WiiU is about as powerful as a 360 with that logic.

The PS4/720 are rumored to be 6x the strength of current gen consoles. That's a huge leap. that's far larger than 20x more than last gen's consoles. It's all exponential.

In the end, don't expect photorealism but expect some nice looking games.

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#21 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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As long as it does HD and plays Nintendo's games, I'll be happy.

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#22 Cranler
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Lol at 50% faster than current gen. Thats nothing.

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#23 super600  Moderator
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Will wait for E3.

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#24 AAllxxjjnn
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So tired of hearing these rumors. I'll wait and see, instead of putting any faith into this stuff.
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#25 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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Jesus the suspense is KILLING ME! :x

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#26 MLBknights58
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20x more powerful than trash, impressive indeed.

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#27 mitu123
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Come on E3!

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#28 gamecubepad
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I think I speak for everyone here in saying that nobody gives sh!t what CPU it has. What GPU is it packing?

Come on E3!

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I predict Nintendo will not announce the hardware specs at E3. I'm pessimistic like that.

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#29 Gue1
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That ain't saying much.

Law of dimishing returns applies.

The Xbox 360 was roughly 20x the power of the Xbox when it was all said and done. So the WiiU is about as powerful as a 360 with that logic.

The PS4/720 are rumored to be 6x the strength of current gen consoles. That's a huge leap. that's far larger than 20x more than last gen's consoles. It's all exponential.

In the end, don't expect photorealism but expect some nice looking games.

Wasdie

I just want 60 frames on my games! If only people learned to appreciate that, developers would make more games with high frame-rate in mind instead of tons of post-processing to deceive our eyes.

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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

So... it'll be equal in power to the 360/PS3.. Thanks for the info. :D

:P

Shinobi120

So a Power 7 CPU, a rumored HD 4750 (or HD 4870), & a rumored 2 GB of RAM is equal to 360/PS3 in power? :|

They are actually rumored to have increased it to a 6770, which while it isnt a 7970, it is pretty damn powerful, and definately sh!ts on 360/PS3's GPU.

It has 800 unified shader cores, or "stream processors" as AMD calls them, compared to the 48 that are in the 360. That is 16 times the amount of shaders that are in the 360:| (which are also clocked MORE THAN twice as fast as the 360s btw). It also embarasses the PS3 even more. The PS3 doesnt even use unified shaders. It has 24 dedicated Pixel shaders, and 8 dedicated Vertex shaders. (the unified shaders in the 360, and the card Im describing can be BOTH).

It also has twice as many ROPs (render output units) as a 360/PS3. 360/PS3 have 8 ROPs(meaning 8 = 720p 30fps) and this new card has 16 (meaning 1080p 30fps). Looks like 30fps will still be the standard next gen for Wii U.

It also has 40 texture mapping units, compared to the 16 in the 360. (360 and PS3 dont use unified texture mapping units either. Its the same scenario as the shaders I described above. 360 has 16 texture fetching units, and 16 texture addressing units. PS3 having 24 of the former and only 8 of the latter). This new card has unified texture mapping units that do BOTH. 40 compared to the 16 in a 360.

It will be a sufficient card for a next gen leap. Keep in mind that games on PC arent even really USING these things. Games on PC are coded at an API level, and not at a hardware level, meaning we arent even seeing games take advantage of these.

/nerd.

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I'm quite excited to see Nintendo's E3 conference, the Wii U is sounding more and more attractive the more I learn about it. I've never owned a Nintendo before, and I could be pursuaded to buy this one.

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I'm a Nintendo fan so this is kinda biased but u should seriously think about trying out some Nintendo awesomeness
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#32 Gue1
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Anyway I don't think the CPU will be more powerful than the Cell anyway. Spec wise it sounds exactly like the Xbox's Xenon which is pretty weak but as long as it has a pretty decent GPU everything will be fine.

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#33 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That ain't saying much.

Law of dimishing returns applies.

The Xbox 360 was roughly 20x the power of the Xbox when it was all said and done. So the WiiU is about as powerful as a 360 with that logic.

The PS4/720 are rumored to be 6x the strength of current gen consoles. That's a huge leap. that's far larger than 20x more than last gen's consoles. It's all exponential.

In the end, don't expect photorealism but expect some nice looking games.

Gue1

I just want 60 frames on my games! If only people learned to appreciate that, developers would make more games with high frame-rate in mind instead of tons of post-processing to deceive our eyes.

If youre expecting 60fps from the Wii U, you should read my above post. While it will be doing 1080p no questions asked, it will most likely STILL be 30fps for most games.

If a 360/PS3 each have 8 ROPs or render output units (what draws each frame and pushes each pixel to your screen), and most games are 720p 30fps.......and the rumored GPU in the Wii U has 16 ROPs, that means we will be seeing 1080p 30fps. I am sure there will be FEW games that do run 60fps on Wii U, but expect to see the same frequency of it as we see on on current consoles this gen. (you know......pretty much everything BUT Call of Duty, etc..)

For 1080p 60fps standard, no questions asked, you need 32 ROPs.

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#34 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

I'm quite excited to see Nintendo's E3 conference, the Wii U is sounding more and more attractive the more I learn about it. I've never owned a Nintendo before, and I could be pursuaded to buy this one.

Keepitoldschool
I'm a Nintendo fan so this is kinda biased but u should seriously think about trying out some Nintendo awesomeness

Yeah I want to experience them. Probably pretty cheap to pick them up second hand. Where do you think is a good place to start?
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#35 22Toothpicks
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My cell phone is 20X more power then the Wii TheOwnerOner
No, it's not but thanks for trying.
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#36 22Toothpicks
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Where's painguy1 when you need him? I would like someone to elaborate on these proposed specs so my inferior mind can gain a better understanding on the real world performance of such chips.

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#37 casharmy
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My cell phone is 20X more power then the Wii TheOwnerOner

My USB thumb drive is 20x more powerful than the Wii

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#38 painguy1
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How many many gamecubes do u need to duck tape together to get a WiiU?

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#39 22Toothpicks
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How many many gamecubes do u need to duck tape together to get a WiiU?

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You! Do that thing where you explain specs in relative terms. And...go!
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I would be happy with that.
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#41 Kingpin0114
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Feel like I've already read this before.

Anyway based off a billion rumors, the Wii-U is either 50 percent more powerful or up to 5 times more powerful than the 360/PS3.

Next week please hurry up.

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#42 StrongDeadlift
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Feel like I've already read this before.

Anyway based off a billion rumors, the Wii-U is either 50 percent more powerful or up to 5 times more powerful than the 360/PS3.

Next week please hurry up.

Kingpin0114
its a difficult thing to quantify. The CPU will basically be 2 360s duct taped together (because you really dont even need that much CPU power anyways). But the GPU will have 16 times as many shader cores, double the Render Output Units, and alittle more than 3 times the texture mapping units.
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#43 Kingpin0114
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Feel like I've already read this before.

Anyway based off a billion rumors, the Wii-U is either 50 percent more powerful or up to 5 times more powerful than the 360/PS3.

Next week please hurry up.

StrongDeadlift

its a difficult thing to quantify. The CPU will basically be 2 360s duct taped together (because you really dont even need that much CPU power anyways). But the GPU will have 16 times as many shader cores, double the Render Output Units, and alittle more than 3 times the texture mapping units.

Oh jeeze. I'm not very tech savy:(

I just want HD Nintendo games and for it to share multiplats with the Nextbox and PS4. :)

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My toenail is 40x more powerful. Way to go Nintendo :roll:

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[QUOTE="Keepitoldschool"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

I'm quite excited to see Nintendo's E3 conference, the Wii U is sounding more and more attractive the more I learn about it. I've never owned a Nintendo before, and I could be pursuaded to buy this one.

psymon100
I'm a Nintendo fan so this is kinda biased but u should seriously think about trying out some Nintendo awesomeness

Yeah I want to experience them. Probably pretty cheap to pick them up second hand. Where do you think is a good place to start?

A wii probably mario kart double dash mario sunshine wind waker f zero some j RPGs smash bros would be a good start for the GameCube games and the usual classics off the virtual console then take it from there any body got any other suggestions??
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Bow down to your new lord.

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#47 conkertheking1
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Im not convinced until Nintendo says it themselves. They said it would be more powerful than PS3 and 360, but so will their new consoles. I'm wondering how well it will compete against PS4 and whatever MS is scemin

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#48 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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8 more days, baby, 8 more days till E3 :)

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#49 WllDan7
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I don't care how powerful it is. As long as I can play the new smash on a non laggingonline system, I am good.

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#50 gamecubepad
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Feel like I've already read this before.

Anyway based off a billion rumors, the Wii-U is either 50 percent more powerful or up to 5 times more powerful than the 360/PS3.

Next week please hurry up.

StrongDeadlift

its a difficult thing to quantify. The CPU will basically be 2 360s duct taped together (because you really dont even need that much CPU power anyways). But the GPU will have 16 times as many shader cores, double the Render Output Units, and alittle more than 3 times the texture mapping units.

There's been very little to go by as far as the GPU, but it doesn't have 16x the amount of stream processors. Xenos is comprised of 3 arrays of 16 SIMD 5-wide ALUs. Thus 5x48=240 stream processors, not including the daughter die with 10MB EDRAM.

Going by the Zelda demo, I'd say it's more likely to be a 4650/70 than anything. Sure it's a year old, but it's a more reliable source than some random rumors. 720p 0xAA. Comparing to what even a 4830 can do shows that it's unlikely to be at that level.