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#1 loco145
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What do you guys think?

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#2 ithilgore2006
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Which is which?

They both look more or less on the same level, but one is little better than the other.

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#3 NoobisMaxcimus
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Which is which?

They both look more or less on the same level, but one is little better than the other.

ithilgore2006

I think all of them are from peacewalker :P

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#4 SakusEnvoy
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They're basically at the same level, but the 3DS ones are much sharper.

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#5 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Which is which?

They both look more or less on the same level, but one is little better than the other.

ithilgore2006

PSP is the bigger screen 3DS is the smaller screens.

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#6 Fried_Shrimp
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The smaller screens look better. Which is which?
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#7 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]

Which is which?

They both look more or less on the same level, but one is little better than the other.

NoobisMaxcimus

I think all of them are from peacewalker :P

The second and fourth are from Metal Gear 3DS.

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

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#8 NoobisMaxcimus
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[QUOTE="NoobisMaxcimus"]

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]

Which is which?

They both look more or less on the same level, but one is little better than the other.

SakusEnvoy

I think all of them are from peacewalker :P

The second and fourth are from Metal Gear 3DS.

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

Ah.

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#9 MotionNight
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I didn't know they actually showed the game yet.
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#10 frostybanana
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Yeah, the 3DS definitely has a sharper image.
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#11 Ragnarok1051
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Why are people comparing the PSP to the 3DS? Don't they realize how old the PSP is?

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#12 Fried_Shrimp
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The polygons are better quality than the PSP ones I noticed.
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#13 CleanPlayer
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3ds>PSP
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#14 Furbyballistik
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Why are people comparing the PSP to the 3DS? Don't they realize how old the PSP is?

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took the words right out of my mouth...3DS hasnt even been released yet..it BETTER have better grfx than the 5 yr old psp
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#15 bigblunt537
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Interesting comparison. The 3ds version has better textures and a better resolution. Not a amssive difference but still pretty impressive for a launch title.

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#16 ithilgore2006
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Ok more jaggies on the 3DS, but it looks sharper and more detailed overall.

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#17 Rahnyc4
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you guys should see the screens for resident evil 3ds, i mean seriously. i guess the rumor of the handheld being closer to xbox 360 and ps3 than the wii is true.
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#18 Fried_Shrimp
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you guys should see the screens for resident evil 3ds, i mean seriously. i guess the rumor of the handheld being closer to xbox 360 and ps3 than the wii is true. Rahnyc4
Where?
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#19 nervmeister
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Why are people comparing the PSP to the 3DS? Don't they realize how old the PSP is?

Ragnarok1051

Yeah. It's like comparing the PS1 to Sega Genesis.

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#20 VendettaRed07
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omfg!!.. Metal Gear Solid 3 port for the 3DS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! :D

It looks even better than the ps2 version!

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#21 Crystal-Rush
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if the 3DS can pull off visuals like those smaller MGS pics then i'm very impressed. Add 3D to the mix and it will be better.
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]you guys should see the screens for resident evil 3ds, i mean seriously. i guess the rumor of the handheld being closer to xbox 360 and ps3 than the wii is true. Fried_Shrimp
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http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/game/?g=residentevilmake sure you analyze the picture a lot. its running directly off the handhelds engine. its safe to say this thing is way more powerful than the wii.

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I have to start saving. No more fast food for me!
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#24 Zanoh
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3DS hands down...

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#25 Crystal-Rush
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is it a remake of previous MGS games or is it a peacewalker port

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#26 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]you guys should see the screens for resident evil 3ds, i mean seriously. i guess the rumor of the handheld being closer to xbox 360 and ps3 than the wii is true. Rahnyc4

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http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/game/?g=residentevilmake sure you analyze the picture a lot. its running directly off the handhelds engine. its safe to say this thing is way more powerful than the wii.

Doubt it's anywhere near the Wii in terms of power. With the lower resolution of handheld games the gamess require a lot less power. Fore xample people claimed the psp was as strong as the ps2 which isn't the case at all. It can produce "similar" graphics because of the extremely low resolutions, but the amount of polygons etc being pushed is no where near the ps2 counter part.

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#27 Rahnyc4
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] Where?bigblunt537

http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/game/?g=residentevilmake sure you analyze the picture a lot. its running directly off the handhelds engine. its safe to say this thing is way more powerful than the wii.

Doubt it's anywhere near the Wii in terms of power. With the lower resolution of handheld games the gamess require a lot less power. Fore xample people claimed the psp was as strong as the ps2 which isn't the case at all. It can produce "similar" graphics because of the extremely low resolutions, but the amount of polygons etc being pushed is no where near the ps2 counter part.

then again unlike the psp, it took a while to show just how capable the hardware of the psp truly was. the 3ds out of the gate already showing things thats tops compare to what we normally see. imagine how developed the games will be later on. also the system is doing 3d, which requires a lot of system resource, which takes a few out of the hardware.
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#28 Zero5000X
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You can't really expect launch games to be representative a platforms potential. Look at the launch titles from any platform and they pale in comparison to the games released now.
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#29 intro94
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You can't really expect launch games to be representative a platforms potential. Look at the launch titles from any platform and they pale in comparison to the games released now.Zero5000X
true.this is the beggining of 3ds power. PSP Peace is the top of PSP power. Is not fair tho, As 3ds is coming years later. But obviously im getting a 3ds.If the RE shots are gameplay.then omg...Seriously, its a huge step ahead of psp limits or DSI ones.But what truly SCREAMS omg at me is this fact: Psp was designed to be around power. No motion, no sensor no touch. Just for visuals. 3d is around 3d, not merely graphics. And yet it manages to put power and 3ds in dual screens. A big feat.
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#30 Chiddaling
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Yay for comparing a 2010 handheld to a 2004(?) handheld.
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#31 GramDubs
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The PSP metal gear is a whole new game, i played metal gear 3 snake eater on the ps2 about 6 years ago so not too hyped for the 3ds version.

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#32 Laserwolf65
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well, you'd think that a newer system would have better graphics than an older one...
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#33 RTUUMM
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is the 3DS Metal Gear a new one or a port of Peace Walker? Metar Gear is now a on all systems lol
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] Where?bigblunt537

http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/game/?g=residentevilmake sure you analyze the picture a lot. its running directly off the handhelds engine. its safe to say this thing is way more powerful than the wii.

Doubt it's anywhere near the Wii in terms of power. With the lower resolution of handheld games the gamess require a lot less power. Fore xample people claimed the psp was as strong as the ps2 which isn't the case at all. It can produce "similar" graphics because of the extremely low resolutions, but the amount of polygons etc being pushed is no where near the ps2 counter part.

Gamingunion.net says that MGS 3D will "have the exact same gameplay as the original, albiet with slightly less graphical fidelity."

That would mean it is slightly weaker than a PS2; definitely not more powerful than the Wii.

It will look noticeably nicer than PSP games, though, because it appears to have a higher resolution.

[ Link ]

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#35 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The 3DS looks way better than I could ever have guessed.
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/game/?g=residentevilmake sure you analyze the picture a lot. its running directly off the handhelds engine. its safe to say this thing is way more powerful than the wii.

SakusEnvoy

Doubt it's anywhere near the Wii in terms of power. With the lower resolution of handheld games the gamess require a lot less power. Fore xample people claimed the psp was as strong as the ps2 which isn't the case at all. It can produce "similar" graphics because of the extremely low resolutions, but the amount of polygons etc being pushed is no where near the ps2 counter part.

Gamingunion.net says that MGS 3D will "have the exact same gameplay as the original, albiet with slightly less graphical fidelity."

That would mean it is slightly weaker than a PS2; definitely not more powerful than the Wii.

It will look noticeably nicer than PSP games, though, because it appears to have a higher resolution.

[ Link ]

I'm gonna be honest; the 'slightly less graphical fidelity' comment smacks of opinion; has he played it? Or just seen the screens and assumed? I'm not going to 'debunk' this opinion with my own; but judging the screens shown, the game seemingly has more detail than the original snake eater. Correct me if i'm wrong, but bump/bitmapping wasn't used in the original on crocs, plants, or even snake for that matter was it? Analysing the screen shots, it's blatantly obvious that MGS 3DS looks FAR better than peace walker though. (Though I do love peacewalker :3 )

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#37 bytgames
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is the 3DS Metal Gear a new one or a port of Peace Walker? Metar Gear is now a on all systems lolRTUUMM
its a rehashed port of a 6 year old game....snake eater....its not peace walker...and metal gear has been on nintendo systems for a long time....starting with the game cube.

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#38 windsquid9000
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Here's some better peace walker screenshots.

Image 85

Image 153

My verdict: Can't really tell. Lets wait for videos and more screenshots.

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#39 tomarlyn
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Peace Walker got rattlesnaked.
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#40 blazinpuertoroc
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Snake Eater remake looks so good. But im curious to see how it will control with one analog stick because the controls on peace walker can get bothersome. I need a live demo NOW.

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#41 bigblunt537
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Here's some better peace walker screenshots.

Image 85

Image 153

My verdict: Can't really tell. Lets wait for videos and more screenshots.

windsquid9000

These screens are touched up. The psp's screen resolution is not the same. The lack of aliasing also shows that.

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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]is the 3DS Metal Gear a new one or a port of Peace Walker? Metar Gear is now a on all systems lolbytgames

its a rehashed port of a 6 year old game....snake eater....its not peace walker...and metal gear has been on nintendo systems for a long time....starting with the game cube.

So now it's possible to play Metal Gear Solid remake on the Wii (BC), MGS2 on your Xbox 360 (BC), and MGS3 on your 3DS. But 4, Portable Ops and Peace Walker are still exclusive.

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#43 windsquid9000
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These screens are touched up. The psp's screen resolution is not the same. The lack of aliasing also shows that.

bigblunt537
They're just rendered at a higher resolution. The level of detail is the same.
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#44 wolverine4262
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You need to remember that MGs3D is well 3D and there are 2 displays...
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[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]is the 3DS Metal Gear a new one or a port of Peace Walker? Metar Gear is now a on all systems lolSakusEnvoy

its a rehashed port of a 6 year old game....snake eater....its not peace walker...and metal gear has been on nintendo systems for a long time....starting with the game cube.

So now it's possible to play Metal Gear Solid remake on the Wii (BC), MGS2 on your Xbox 360 (BC), and MGS3 on your 3DS. But 4, Portable Ops and Peace Walker are still exclusive.

I still consider the original MGS3 a PS2 exclusive, because the one for 3ds is a remake. Judging from the screens its built from the ground up.

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#46 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="bytgames"]

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]is the 3DS Metal Gear a new one or a port of Peace Walker? Metar Gear is now a on all systems lolSakusEnvoy

its a rehashed port of a 6 year old game....snake eater....its not peace walker...and metal gear has been on nintendo systems for a long time....starting with the Gameboy Color.

So now it's possible to play Metal Gear Solid remake on the Wii (BC), MGS2 on your Xbox 360 (BC), and MGS3 on your 3DS. But 4, Portable Ops and Peace Walker are still exclusive.

Fixed

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#47 themyth01
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2nd and 4th pic looks noticeably better.
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#48 FoShizzle17
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You guys are being fooled by the TC - the psp screenshots aren't crisp because he didn't post actual screenCAPS. Gamespot can't do actual screencaps because they don't have "special" firmware (or at least i'm pretty sure they don't)

windsquid9000's post shows actual screenshots - even though those aren't the psp's resolution

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#49 windsquid9000
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Just looked through a ton of PW screenshots and it seems that the 3DS does indeed have better visuals.

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#50 Marka1700
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I keep hearing people say the 3DS has Gamecube graphics, but none of those screens even line up with the PS2.