PS4 detailed Gamasutra

Everything sounds good so far. I have no issues with instals as long as they provide a hefty HDD.

Mandatory installs are lame.Miketheman83

They are when you have limited HDD space and you have to sit and wait for it to occur.  Doesn't appear to be the case, though.

"So, what we do as the game accesses the Blu-ray disc, is we take any data that was accessed and we put it on the hard drive. And if then if there is idle time, we go ahead and copy the remaining data to the hard drive."

Mandatory installs are lame.Miketheman83

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] :lol:blue_hazy_basic

"It's ATI Radeon. Getting into specific numbers probably doesn't help clarify the situation much, except we took their most current technology, and performed a large number of modifications to it."

GoDstation 4 confirmed !

Mandatory installs are lame.Miketheman83

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

I hope launch models will have 500GB HDDs or better.

PSbe4st

Mandatory installs are lame.Miketheman83

not rly, only for anxius teenage kids that cant wait 10 mins to play a game

they make the games runs faster, preserve the utility life of the lens and make the game run better overall.

Mandatory installs are lame.Miketheman83

Next Xbox will also do it, because they are using bluray discs also. Problem is bluray is slow. PS3 only had a 1X speed bluray, I heard PS4 will have 6X bluray but its still slow.

As long as they put good sized hard drives in there machines, I am all for mandatory installs. Better for games and keeps the system cooler not running hot off the Bluray Disc. PCs have been doing it since forver and no one has complained?

Amazing details.

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.tenaka2

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.clone01

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

Ask PC gamers to stream off the disc without HDD install and it'll all go to hell :lol:---but no seriously, HDD is a welcomed sight, that is unless Sony makes their own stupid own proprietary HDD where thats the only HDD that works with the PS4. 

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

cdragon_88

Ask PC gamers to stream off the disc without HDD install and it'll all go to hell :lol:---but no seriously, HDD is a welcomed sight, that is unless Sony makes their own stupid own proprietary HDD where thats the only HDD that works with the PS4. 

nothing new that hasn't been said a thousand times already since Feb 20.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

blue_hazy_basic

He's slacking right now :x

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

GulliversTravel

The PlayStation 4 is due out this fall HNNNNNNNNNGHeil68

I like his and Ronvalencia's

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ok Wasdie, translate this for us please.

GulliversTravel

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.tenaka2

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.MFDOOM1983

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

tormentos

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.MFDOOM1983

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]His analysis is both balanced, optimistic and non-elitist despite the fact that hes also a PC gamer.GulliversTravel

""The PlayStation 4 is due out this fall, and its technical specifications have been largely under wraps -- till now. While the company gave a presentation at GDC, the system's lead architect, Mark Cerny, hasn't talked publicly in any great depth about the platform since its unveiling this February. Cerny approached Gamasutra in the hope of delivering a "no holds barred PlayStation 4 hardware expose," he said, during the interview that resulted in this story. "That certainly is what we're here to do," said Cerny, before speaking to Gamasutra for well over an hour. click here What follows is a total breakdown of the hardware from a developer's perspective: the chips on the board, and what they're capable of."" http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php "So, what we do as the game accesses the Blu-ray disc, is we take any data that was accessed and we put it on the hard drive. And if then if there is idle time, we go ahead and copy the remaining data to the hard drive. And what that means is after an hour or two, the game is on the hard drive, and you have access, you have dramatically quicker loading... And you have the ability to do some truly high-speed streaming." I think this ^^ means mandatory install.tormentos

From http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php?page=3

Mark talks about culling which is similar to AMD's own HSA GpGPU for games push i.e. http://www.slideshare.net/zlatan4177/gpgpu-algorithms-in-games Slide 25 for frustum and occusion culling on GpGPU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viewing_frustum

haven´t you heard the news ? 8GB of GDDR5 is mainstream now. Nextbox gonna have 12 GB of DDR4:lol:

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Mandatory installs are lame.tenaka2

What is it with you consolites and this unfounded fear of harddrives?

Thanks for posting. Quite an interesting read, and certainly seems Sony have got the right man for the job of hardware architect this time around.

In layman's terms for those who found some of his tech speak a bore (or just TL;DR):

The PS4 is going to be great for developers to work with; is going to have dedicated hardware for certain processes in operation (that used to be taken up by software, or none dedicated hardware thus slowing it down or increase development times); and is going to have hardware that works all very well with each other with no bottlenecks. It is not designed to be a PC beater, but it has been designed with the future in mind, and should hopefully be a very nice investment.

haven´t you heard the news ? 8GB of GDDR5 is mainstream now. Nextbox gonna have 12 GB of DDR4:lol:

jhonMalcovich

DDR4 and GDDR5M would be sharing the same SODIMM standard.

So i read the entire arcticle and all i got was the PS4 would be awesome to develop for

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haven´t you heard the news ? 8GB of GDDR5 is mainstream now. Nextbox gonna have 12 GB of DDR4:lol:

ronvalencia

DDR4 and GDDR5M would be sharing the same SODIMM standard.

But 12 GB > 8 GB, so MS wins. :D

*I am kidding*

So i read the entire arcticle and all i got was the PS4 would be awesome to develop for

EPaul

Thanks for posting. Quite an interesting read, and certainly seems Sony have got the right man for the job of hardware architect this time around.

In layman's terms for those who found some of his tech speak a bore (or just TL;DR):

The PS4 is going to be great for developers to work with; is going to have dedicated hardware for certain processes in operation (that used to be taken up by software, or none dedicated hardware thus slowing it down or increase development times); and is going to have hardware that works all very well with each other with no bottlenecks. It is not designed to be a PC beater, but it has been designed with the future in mind, and should hopefully be a very nice investment.

_Matt_