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#1 1080pOnly
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Does anyone remember back at the launch of these systems the number of threads from Cows talking about how the 360 only has shooters? Does anyone else find it ironic that the tables have turned so badly that you never hear it mentioned anymore?

Go look at the Playstation Store catagories. You could basically add up the total number of games and add-ons in all other sections and it would struggle to beat the number in Shooters alone.

The big exclusives?

Resistance, Resistance 2, KZ2, MGS4, Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are all FPS or TPS.

Sure you get the odd LBP and I don't really care as I like some shooters but it's terribly funny when I think back.

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#2 tylergamereview
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... Is it a bad thing?
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#4 gamefan274
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Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Left 4 Dead, and.... you know what lets go with Mass Effect. If your telling me Uncharted is a shooter then I'm saying so is Mass Effect because, you shoot people.

It would be the shooter console if all it had was shooters but Ratchet, LBP, inFamous, MLB 09, and many others. I'm not saying the 360 is the shooter console, I'm saying neither is.

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#5 x360owna
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Shooting games are mass market fiends.
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#6 awssk8er716
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I wouldn't consider Uncharted (The first one) really a shooter. I mean, of course you are shooting throughout the whole game, but if they took out the guns, the game would basically be the same. It's not based around guns.

I would consider the second one a shooter because of its online.


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#7 PPresentFortune
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Please? Everyone knows the Xbox 360 is the shooter console.

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#8 SolidTy
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While it would be fun to make the PS3 THE SHOOTER CONSOLE, it isn't.

No matter how hard you try TC, the 360 has the PS3 beat in shooters but the PS3 sure did try though.

Sorry.:)

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#9 devilsoultaker2
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Halo nuff said
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#10 VendettaRed07
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It has more creative and offbeat stuff like Little big planet, infamous, motorstorm, Metal Gear Solid 4, and well, i wouldn't really call valkyria chronicles a shooter. But its amazing whatever it is

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#11 BioShockOwnz
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But Sony doesn't have the best shooter on consoles...

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#12 aroxx_ab
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Well, shooters is the most popular online/multiplay genre thats why you see much stuff for that

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#13 1080pOnly
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While it would be fun to make the PS3 THE SHOOTER CONSOLE, it isn't.

No matter how hard you try TC, the 360 has the PS3 beat in shooters but the PS3 sure did try though.

Sorry.:)

SolidTy

Hehe I think you get me wrong. I don't care which one is but Cows always used to say that you should only buy a 360 if you just want to play shooters. As it turns out the 360 is stuffed full of the JRPG's the Cows talked about and the PS3 full of shooters instead!

It was used as an argument almost daily before they saw the games lists :P.

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#14 good_sk8er7
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I don't agree. LBP.. Infamous.. MGS4.. Demon's Souls.. Uncharted.. Resistance.. Heavenly Sword.. I think there is a pretty wide variety between PS3's exclusives.

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#15 AgentA-Mi6
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Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.
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#16 glez13
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So? :?

The PS2 was the JRPG console

The NES and SNES the side-scroller consoles.

Hardly someone argued about something like this back then.

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#17 PandaBear86
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... Is it a bad thing?tylergamereview
Shooters are great, but lack of variety (other genres) isn't much of a good thing.
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#18 BioShockOwnz
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Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.AgentA-Mi6

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

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#19 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

I have to agree with BioShockOwnz here.

I'm not knocking the PS3 for this, just find it funny that this exact thing was used for ownage.

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#20 Menalque2
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Both the 360 and PS3 are massively overloaded with shooters and are desperately lacking in variety. It's ridiculous.

With that being said, the 360 leans towards more PC-style gaming with the emphasis on WRPG's and RTS and all the games it shares with Steam.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.
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#22 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.AgentA-Mi6

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.

Uncharted is a shooter. Period.

I don't care what people call it. I played the first and it was a shooter.

I love the game. It's a shooter.

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#23 ermacness
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But Sony doesn't have the best shooter on consoles...

BioShockOwnz

ok? Who stated that they did in this thread?

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#24 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

But Sony doesn't have the best shooter on consoles...

ermacness

ok? Who stated that they did in this thread?

It can't be the shooter console without the 9.5 shooter. :) Nope.

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#25 glez13
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.

Uncharted is a shooter. Period.

I don't care what people call it. I played the first and it was a shooter.

I love the game. It's a shooter.

Probably you both are arguing about the same thing. Both Uncharted and MGS 4 are action adventures or action-adventures or action/adventures.

If you go by the later two it clearly implies that it mixes the gaming genres action and adventure. The most common subgenres of the action genre are: Hack and Slash, platformers, fighters, and shooters.

So basically an action adventure game can be a shooter or atleast contain contain a decent amount shooter heavy segments.

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#26 Bazooka_4ME
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Hey look! LBP has guns! I guess it's a shooter also.. :roll:

LBP

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#27 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.

Uncharted is a shooter. Period.

I don't care what people call it. I played the first and it was a shooter.

I love the game. It's a shooter.

What you think does not affect reality period, you cant jump from one platform to another in a shooter, swim, punch, kick and disarm your enemies and make acrobatic movements like, in uncharted. thats it.
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... Is it a bad thing?tylergamereview
It's not about good or bad, it's about hypocricy, I think...
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#29 dsmccracken
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Please? Everyone knows the Xbox 360 is the shooter console.

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If only saying so made it true.
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#30 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]... Is it a bad thing?dsmccracken
It's not about good or bad, it's about hypocricy, I think...

That it is sir, that it is.

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#31 TintedEyes
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Uncharted is more of an action adventure, not really a shooter, its about 40% puzzles.
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#32 ReaperV7
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...mgs4 and uncharted....shooters?? ....no
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#33 ReaperV7
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.

Uncharted is a shooter. Period.

I don't care what people call it. I played the first and it was a shooter.

I love the game. It's a shooter.

well i bet the majority of system wars will disagree with you completely. uncharted is not a shooter. ....lems are getting way out of control..
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#34 sakura_Ex
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PDZ GeOW GeOW 2 Bioshock Halo 3 Halo ODST ME ME 2 L4D L4D 2 GRAW

And throw in all the other multiplat shooters.

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#35 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"] Uncharted is an action adventure/platformer. MGS4 is stealth/action. It doesnt matter what people call them.ReaperV7

Uncharted is a shooter. Period.

I don't care what people call it. I played the first and it was a shooter.

I love the game. It's a shooter.

well i bet the majority of system wars will disagree with you completely. uncharted is not a shooter. ....lems are getting way out of control..

Nope, it's a shooter. Majority of the gameplay is shooting.

Half-Life 2 is teh puzzle gamez!

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#36 Willy105
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What? The PS3 is not the shooter consoles. The 360 is. I am attracted more to the PS3 than the 360 BECAUSE it isn't the shooter console.
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#37 1080pOnly
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What? The PS3 is not the shooter consoles. The 360 is. I am attracted more to the PS3 than the 360 BECAUSE it isn't the shooter console.Willy105

Yet the vast majority of it's games are shooters.

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#38 BioShockOwnz
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What? The PS3 is not the shooter consoles. The 360 is. I am attracted more to the PS3 than the 360 BECAUSE it isn't the shooter console.Willy105

Kameo, Banjo, FM2, FM3, and on and on.

It has plenty off AA-AAA titles that aren't shooters. It's a falsehood that should've died a long time ago.

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[QUOTE="Willy105"]What? The PS3 is not the shooter consoles. The 360 is. I am attracted more to the PS3 than the 360 BECAUSE it isn't the shooter console.1080pOnly

Yet the vast majority of it's games are shooters.

yeah, the Ps3 shares a lot of games with the 360 Lulz. :P
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#40 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"]What? The PS3 is not the shooter consoles. The 360 is. I am attracted more to the PS3 than the 360 BECAUSE it isn't the shooter console.AgentA-Mi6

Yet the vast majority of it's games are shooters.

yeah, the Ps3 shares a lot of games with the 360 Lulz. :P

Heh very true. Both 360 and PS3 are full of them, probably equally so.

Also half of the PS3 exclusives are shooters...even UC (you might jump a few times but you use cover and shoot guns 90% of the game = shooter).

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#41 Chutebox
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The ones you included, MGS, Uncharted 1 and 2 are not TPS.

Now, there are much more than those exclsuives.

LBP, GT, Motorstorm, Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Clank, Folklore, etc etc...

I guess, in short what I mean to say is...FAIL.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Yet the vast majority of it's games are shooters.

1080pOnly

yeah, the Ps3 shares a lot of games with the 360 Lulz. :P

Heh very true. Both 360 and PS3 are full of them, probably equally so.

Also half of the PS3 exclusives are shooters...even UC (you might jump a few times but you use cover and shoot guns 90% of the game = shooter).

Nope. It is not a shooter, Jumping is a key part of the game, not a few times :?, same as swiming solving a few puzzles, disarming enemies and exploring. Besides, the Ps3 line up has an amazing variety, most shooters coming up for the Ps3 are the regular multiplat ones, the exclusives vary greatly in genres. Demon's Souls comes out tomorrow fore example. I haven't seen anything like it this gen, dungeon crawler werid looking japanese rpg, The Last Guardian is a other game I like to bring up because there is simply nothing else upcoming that is similar in any way to it, Fumito Ueda's artistic style is just unique. Note that Im not saying that the 360 doesnt have variety as well, the only thing im debating here is the genre of Uncharted, its just plain wrong to call any game with shooting mechanics a shooter.
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#43 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.BioShockOwnz

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

Hahahaha, riiiiigggggghhhhttttt....

MGS4 is awesome no matter how you play it.

You can keep on hating though.

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#44 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Uncharted and MGS4 are not shooters. Halo 3, Odst, Gears of war and PDZ are though.Chutebox

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

Hahahaha, riiiiigggggghhhhttttt....

MGS4 is awesome no matter how you play it.

You can keep on hating though.

Yup, the shooting mechanics are rubbish. They feel like they were shoehorned in at the last minute.

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#45 Faulttt
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lol, the 360 has a controller made for shooters
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#46 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Uncharted is very much a shooter with a little puzzle and platforming. Just because Half-Life 2 uses many puzzles doesn't mean it's not a shooter. Uncharted has one main entree and it's of the stop n' pop variety. The online is a complete shooting frenzy.

And MGS4 has been called a shooter by many cows when trying to trash AAA games. It can be played as one, even though it plays like an awful shooter.

BioShockOwnz

Hahahaha, riiiiigggggghhhhttttt....

MGS4 is awesome no matter how you play it.

You can keep on hating though.

Yup, the shooting mechanics are rubbish. They feel like they were shoehorned in at the last minute.

Ya totally!!!!

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#47 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] yeah, the Ps3 shares a lot of games with the 360 Lulz. :PAgentA-Mi6

Heh very true. Both 360 and PS3 are full of them, probably equally so.

Also half of the PS3 exclusives are shooters...even UC (you might jump a few times but you use cover and shoot guns 90% of the game = shooter).

Nope. It is not a shooter, Jumping is a key part of the game, not a few times :?, same as swiming solving a few puzzles, disarming enemies and exploring. Besides, the Ps3 line up has an amazing variety, most shooters coming up for the Ps3 are the regular multiplat ones, the exclusives vary greatly in genres. Demon's Souls comes out tomorrow fore example. I haven't seen anything like it this gen, dungeon crawler werid looking japanese rpg, The Last Guardian is a other game I like to bring up because there is simply nothing else upcoming that is similar in any way to it, Fumito Ueda's artistic style is just unique. Note that Im not saying that the 360 doesnt have variety as well, the only thing im debating here is the genre of Uncharted, its just plain wrong to call any game with shooting mechanics a shooter.

To me, any game that revolves around shooting as it's main gameplay element is a shooter. Half Life has many physics based puzzles, you can disarm people, you need to jump about and drive vehicles etc...but it's still a shooter as you shoot most things for most of the game.

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#48 Chutebox
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Heh very true. Both 360 and PS3 are full of them, probably equally so.

Also half of the PS3 exclusives are shooters...even UC (you might jump a few times but you use cover and shoot guns 90% of the game = shooter).

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Nope. It is not a shooter, Jumping is a key part of the game, not a few times :?, same as swiming solving a few puzzles, disarming enemies and exploring. Besides, the Ps3 line up has an amazing variety, most shooters coming up for the Ps3 are the regular multiplat ones, the exclusives vary greatly in genres. Demon's Souls comes out tomorrow fore example. I haven't seen anything like it this gen, dungeon crawler werid looking japanese rpg, The Last Guardian is a other game I like to bring up because there is simply nothing else upcoming that is similar in any way to it, Fumito Ueda's artistic style is just unique. Note that Im not saying that the 360 doesnt have variety as well, the only thing im debating here is the genre of Uncharted, its just plain wrong to call any game with shooting mechanics a shooter.

To me, any game that revolves around shooting as it's main gameplay element is a shooter. Half Life has many physics based puzzles, you can disarm people, you need to jump about and drive vehicles etc...but it's still a shooter as you shoot most things for most of the game.

so, by your definition neither MGS or Uncharted are shooters. Thanks for clarifying.

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#49 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Heh very true. Both 360 and PS3 are full of them, probably equally so.

Also half of the PS3 exclusives are shooters...even UC (you might jump a few times but you use cover and shoot guns 90% of the game = shooter).

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Nope. It is not a shooter, Jumping is a key part of the game, not a few times :?, same as swiming solving a few puzzles, disarming enemies and exploring. Besides, the Ps3 line up has an amazing variety, most shooters coming up for the Ps3 are the regular multiplat ones, the exclusives vary greatly in genres. Demon's Souls comes out tomorrow fore example. I haven't seen anything like it this gen, dungeon crawler werid looking japanese rpg, The Last Guardian is a other game I like to bring up because there is simply nothing else upcoming that is similar in any way to it, Fumito Ueda's artistic style is just unique. Note that Im not saying that the 360 doesnt have variety as well, the only thing im debating here is the genre of Uncharted, its just plain wrong to call any game with shooting mechanics a shooter.

To me, any game that revolves around shooting as it's main gameplay element is a shooter. Half Life has many physics based puzzles, you can disarm people, you need to jump about and drive vehicles etc...but it's still a shooter as you shoot most things for most of the game.

Which is the genre of the game depicted above? Based on your explanation I'd say, its a shooter.

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#50 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Nope. It is not a shooter, Jumping is a key part of the game, not a few times :?, same as swiming solving a few puzzles, disarming enemies and exploring. Besides, the Ps3 line up has an amazing variety, most shooters coming up for the Ps3 are the regular multiplat ones, the exclusives vary greatly in genres. Demon's Souls comes out tomorrow fore example. I haven't seen anything like it this gen, dungeon crawler werid looking japanese rpg, The Last Guardian is a other game I like to bring up because there is simply nothing else upcoming that is similar in any way to it, Fumito Ueda's artistic style is just unique. Note that Im not saying that the 360 doesnt have variety as well, the only thing im debating here is the genre of Uncharted, its just plain wrong to call any game with shooting mechanics a shooter.AgentA-Mi6

To me, any game that revolves around shooting as it's main gameplay element is a shooter. Half Life has many physics based puzzles, you can disarm people, you need to jump about and drive vehicles etc...but it's still a shooter as you shoot most things for most of the game.

Which is the genre of the game depicted above? Based on your explanation I'd say, its a shooter.

Plenty of shooting in that but at least half of your time is taken up talking to chars, exploring side quests and generally doing non shooty things. A game with guns isn't a shooter but in UC that IS most of what you do...bar watching cut scenes.