PS3 Shafted Again, This Time It's Personal

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#1 Alpha-Male22
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So Treyarch officially confirms split-screen, and low and behold, The Official Sony Blog promotes it.


But a quick edit shows that the 360 version is the only version to support second account log-ins, while the PS3 is stuck with the guest system.

And this REALLY ticks me off because there is no excuse for it, and as a major Call of Duty and split-screen fan it just absolutely blows.

I really don't get it, anyone else pissed off?

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#2 nitromuffin
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nah as long as there is split screen online

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#3 keabrown79
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This is actually my #1 beef with the PS3... as i do couch co-op on any game that allows it with the girlfriend.

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#4 2Chalupas
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I don't personally care.I could imagine it being nice for some people though, maybe family that has a couple kids and only 1 PS3 or college roommate that mooches off his roommates' PS3. Maybe for them it's nice to be able to log in with separate accounts. Other than that I don't see it being an important feature at all.


Campaign co-op is nice. Special Ops mode split screen would be nice (make ALL missions split screen). But full fledged multiplayer?? I'm not sure why anyone would really want to play and have to share the same screen on a constant basis to really worry about it. If you are just doing it once in awhile then who cares if you have to log in as guest?

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#5 RavenLoud
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Wow, Treyarch ball'd up on that one.

Resistance 2 also received a ton of flak for it, Castle Crashers as well.

Unless there is something I'm missing, this just seems to be a case of lazy dev. No excuse on this one.

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#6 hexashadow13
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I never use split screen and don't ever really game with people that are physically close to me so this seemed like a pretty useless feature for me.
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#7 HavocV3
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does PSN even support 2nd accounts log-ins?

I ask because of the person mentioning Resistance/Castle Crashers. I have a hard time believing laziness because that shouldn't be much of a difference to port. you already have the basics.

I don't know, I'll never know how some of this stuff works either:?

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#8 hexashadow13
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does PSN even support 2nd accounts log-ins?

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PSN supports whatever the devs feel like adding. But yes it does. Ex: LBP
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#9 RavenLoud
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does PSN even support 2nd accounts log-ins?

I ask because of the person mentioning Resistance/Castle Crashers. I have a hard time believing laziness because that shouldn't be much of a difference to port. you already have the basics.

I don't know, I'll never know how some of this stuff works either:?

HavocV3
Yes they can. By patch 1.5 Insomniac has put it in R2. It's just bizarre that it isn't implemented, surely the devs has thought that having the second player lose all progress once they leave the game is not pleasant. Perhaps it is a conspiracy to increase sales :o
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#10 dunl12496
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Sucky weapons for them though! Too bad really... That will be a problem. Once you sign out everything's lost? Why not separate guest accounts?

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#11 campzor
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meh dont care.. dont like split screen anyways.
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#12 cloudff7tm
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lol wow.

People were happy until they read the edit.

That was messed up Treyarch.

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#13 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

Wow, Treyarch ball'd up on that one.

Resistance 2 also received a ton of flak for it, Castle Crashers as well.

Unless there is something I'm missing, this just seems to be a case of lazy dev. No excuse on this one.

Isnt this a limitation of the PS3, not Trayarc's fault? I mean, can you name any games that use split screen with two profiels on the PS3? I might be wrong here, but I was pretty sure that was something that MS had patented somehow...
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#14 Arach666
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Is split screen still that relevant for console gamers these days?
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Is split screen still that relevant for console gamers these days?Arach666
It is to me.
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#16 dercoo
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Wow, Treyarch ball'd up on that one.

Resistance 2 also received a ton of flak for it, Castle Crashers as well.

Unless there is something I'm missing, this just seems to be a case of lazy dev. No excuse on this one.

RavenLoud

R2 added it in in an update though....

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#17 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

Wow, Treyarch ball'd up on that one.

Resistance 2 also received a ton of flak for it, Castle Crashers as well.

Unless there is something I'm missing, this just seems to be a case of lazy dev. No excuse on this one.

Isnt this a limitation of the PS3, not Trayarc's fault? I mean, can you name any games that use split screen with two profiels on the PS3? I might be wrong here, but I was pretty sure that was something that MS had patented somehow...

Read the thread bro. There are loads. The thing about PSN and the PS3 in general is that devs can do whatever they want. Sony barely controls them at all. If they want to do something, then PSN can't be a barrier. It doesn't have the systems already built in, but anything can be done.
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#18 FIipMode
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That does suck, but at least it still has split-screen.
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#19 BPoole96
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Thats unfortunate to those who are buying Black Ops for the PS3. Personally, I'm not really affected by this

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#20 Twin-Blade
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I don't personally care.I could imagine it being nice for some people though, maybe family that has a couple kids and only 1 PS3 or college roommate that mooches off his roommates' PS3. Maybe for them it's nice to be able to log in with separate accounts. Other than that I don't see it being an important feature at all.


Campaign co-op is nice. Special Ops mode split screen would be nice (make ALL missions split screen). But full fledged multiplayer?? I'm not sure why anyone would really want to play and have to share the same screen on a constant basis to really worry about it. If you are just doing it once in awhile then who cares if you have to log in as guest?

2Chalupas

Have you had a mate over to play Halo split screen online before? Everyone wants to use their own account so they can get whatever the game offers, whether it be in game experience, rank ups, achievements, awards etc. It's a great feature & should be put in the PS3 version. Hopefully it will get patched in or something.

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#21 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

Wow, Treyarch ball'd up on that one.

Resistance 2 also received a ton of flak for it, Castle Crashers as well.

Unless there is something I'm missing, this just seems to be a case of lazy dev. No excuse on this one.

Isnt this a limitation of the PS3, not Trayarc's fault? I mean, can you name any games that use split screen with two profiels on the PS3? I might be wrong here, but I was pretty sure that was something that MS had patented somehow...

Read my post above.

R2 added it in in an update though....

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Yes, patch 1.5, as mentioned above.
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#22 Rage010101
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hmm not good news thats for sure. get the pc version if you have a rig that can play it i say

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#23 caseypayne69
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Only ps3 game that allows CO op user log in is LBP that I know of.
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#24 67gt500
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It's just another sterling example - just one more way that xbox360 ownership trumps PS3 ownership... this type of thing should surprise no-one by now... the best place [again] to enjoy the full Black Ops experience is [surprise!] on xbox360...
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#25 monkeysmoke
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So Treyarch officially confirms split-screen, and low and behold, The Official Sony Blog promotes it.
But a quick edit shows that the 360 version is the only version to support second account log-ins, while the PS3 is stuck with the guest system.

And this REALLY ticks me off because there is no excuse for it, and as a major Call of Duty and split-screen fan it just absolutely blows.

I really don't get it, anyone else pissed off?Alpha-Male22
imo Multiplateform games makes up more than 95% of games in the market but when will the ps3 stop getting the inferior version of multiplates?...may be in year 2020:D :| :( :cry:.

360 is still the number 1 primary console to own :).

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#26 ZoomZoom2490
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what does this story have anything to do with ps3 being shafted?

i think what you're doin here is Silent Trolling, or Stealth Trolling.

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#27 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]So Treyarch officially confirms split-screen, and low and behold, The Official Sony Blog promotes it.
But a quick edit shows that the 360 version is the only version to support second account log-ins, while the PS3 is stuck with the guest system.

And this REALLY ticks me off because there is no excuse for it, and as a major Call of Duty and split-screen fan it just absolutely blows.

I really don't get it, anyone else pissed off?monkeysmoke

imo Multiplateform games makes up more than 95% of games in the market but when will the ps3 stop getting the inferior version of multiplates?...may be in year 2020:D :| :( :cry:.

360 is still the number 1 primary console to own :).

he said 95%, wow. even if that was true 85% would be flops.

and your reply is completely off topic, where are you coming from with that bias reply?

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#28 ZoomZoom2490
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It's just another sterling example - just one more way that xbox360 ownership trumps PS3 ownership... this type of thing should surprise no-one by now... the best place [again] to enjoy the full Black Ops experience is [surprise!] on xbox360...67gt500

he said trumps, i bet you dont even know what the topic is about.

to tell the truth if i owned xbox360 and ms gave up on it i would be bashing ps3 aswell, so its clear to me why you bashing it.

so what 1st party devs do you have right now? 1 exclusive for entire next year? kinect games? common man, dont be silly here.

you making a big deal of some split screen 2nd account, i dont even know whats the big deal, 1% might care, woooppi.

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#29 XboximusPrime
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umm, why is this a big deal again?

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#30 ZoomZoom2490
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umm, why is this a big deal again?

XboximusPrime

because when one console loses every 1st party dev every little thing counts in multiplat games. some even go as far saying this is the reason 360 trumps ps3, the irony.

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#31 psn8214
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I'm buying Black Ops on PC anyways. I guess I'll grab the 360 version for my split-screen needs, should I desire.

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#32 ZoomZoom2490
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I'm buying Black Ops on PC anyways. I guess I'll grab the 360 version for my split-screen needs, should I desire.

psn8214

you're gonna waste another$60 dollars for the same game just to play split-screen with tumble sticks? wow.

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#33 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

umm, why is this a big deal again?

ZoomZoom2490

because when one console loses every 1st party dev every little thing counts in multiplat games. some even go as far saying this is the reason 360 trumps ps3, the irony.

umm, not sure what you just said. All I know is PS3 has a large staple of first party while MS has like a small box of them.

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#34 bbkkristian
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nah as long as there is split screen online

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This! ^^^^ I'm mad that the PS3 version of COD MW2 didn't get splitscreen online multiplayer like the 360 did. :evil:
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#35 yoshi_64
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Is there ANY game on the PS3 that lets you have multiple accounts log in? Cause I think this is something of the OS than the developers fault.
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#36 yoshi_64
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Only ps3 game that allows CO op user log in is LBP that I know of.caseypayne69
That though doesn't even have the same effect. Pushing the PS button doesn't pull up the user's account. It just uses the profiles save data, but you can't see your friends list if you're playing as second player and longed into "your account."
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#37 bobcheeseball
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That blows... Good thing I've got a 360 lol
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#38 Pug-Nasty
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Considering that other games do it, complete fail on Treyarch's part. Not surprising, this list of features and "enhancements" makes it seem like they just found out this gen started or something. COD has, and always will, blow.

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#39 gamebreakerz__
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As much as I hate MW2, the split screen is some of the best there is however I agree that the guest system is annoying because if I want to have say a model 1887 only battle i have to lvl all the guests up to like 67 or watever it is which is just stupid.
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#40 crusadernm
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Sucks for pS3 owners. Oh well get the 360 version if u want this feature so badly.

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#41 iMojo786_PSN
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thats too bad, i admit i use some split screen on mw2 and CoD4, oh well, online is where its at for me as always :)

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#42 AcidSoldner
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Yeah, Im pretty pissed about this. I really wanted to get this for the PS3 as I have far more friends on that console but opted to get the 360 version instead when I learned only the 360 version had online splitscreen with dual sign ins. Then they announce that the ps3 was going to have it too but then take it back? WTF? Why should one console get shafted on features? I mean minor graphical differences are something to be expected these days with multiplats, but gimped full on features?