PS3 is losing in everything.....

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

exactly. this thread is all about ps3 vs xbox 360. then all of a sudden someone comes along an says 'this is not console wars' just because you mentioned that the best looking CONSOLE game is on ps3. CaseyWegner is known to be very anti-ps3 on system wars, so i'm not surprised.

crimsonsabre

then how does my aversion to the term console exclusive fit into your assumption? :|

thats not an assumption my friend.

i have never used the term console exclusive and i dislike it intensely.

but it doesn't hurt to say that a certain game is best looking on consoles or a handheld.

then what does your "anti-ps3" comment doing there? i'm not, btw.

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Regent192"]How about this?

SPYDER0416

So PS3 has more quality games, and than you say who cares about scores? So what are you using to determine quality? Your opinion? Cause if that's the case then guess what. I can have one as well, and so can others.

When proven wrong the opinion card is fantastic, it makes someone seem smarter even if you aren't!

Proven wrong about what? The fact that he said PS3 has more quality games, when the reviews say otherwise, and can be backed up with links that just get ignored?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

exactly. this thread is all about ps3 vs xbox 360. then all of a sudden someone comes along an says 'this is not console wars' just because you mentioned that the best looking CONSOLE game is on ps3. CaseyWegner is known to be very anti-ps3 on system wars, so i'm not surprised.

OneLazyAsian

then how does my aversion to the term console exclusive fit into your assumption? :|

Let's just cut to the chase Casey. Have I managed to convince you that TC was implying it was an Xbox360 vs PS3 thread with my limited knowledge of logic? If I did not, then I will just have to retract my statement and come up with a different approach to this particular thread.

did you not notice the part where he mentioned he wasn't counting 360/pc games as exclusive?

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

then how does my aversion to the term console exclusive fit into your assumption? :|

CaseyWegner

thats not an assumption my friend.

i have never used the term console exclusive and i dislike it intensely.

but it doesn't hurt to say that a certain game is best looking on consoles or a handheld.

then what does your "anti-ps3" comment doing there? i'm not, btw.

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're bias against the ps3.
have you checked out the awards thread?

maybe bias is the word i should've used.

anyway, good day to you.

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

then how does my aversion to the term console exclusive fit into your assumption? :|

CaseyWegner

Let's just cut to the chase Casey. Have I managed to convince you that TC was implying it was an Xbox360 vs PS3 thread with my limited knowledge of logic? If I did not, then I will just have to retract my statement and come up with a different approach to this particular thread.

did you not notice the part where he mentioned he wasn't counting 360/pc games as exclusive?

Yes, I noticed that part. Is there some significance there that i am overlooking?

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

And THIS is what happens...

KaoSXFACTOR

Those are the LAUNCH games for Kinect, and Move had the same shovelware for its Launch, and their games were abysmal.

I thought it has been proven that the 360 has more quality games than the ps3 according to spread sheets? The 360 has more AAA, AA, and A titles correct? And yes it is well known that almost every multiplat on the 360is somewhat better than the PS3. And yes overall even counting the entire worlds salesthe 360 is selling more than the PS3. Everything else you said that the 360 is better about is unknown to me as I never used PSN and we don't know that kinect will be better than move.

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're biased against the ps3.crimsonsabre

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

Let's just cut to the chase Casey. Have I managed to convince you that TC was implying it was an Xbox360 vs PS3 thread with my limited knowledge of logic? If I did not, then I will just have to retract my statement and come up with a different approach to this particular thread.

OneLazyAsian

did you not notice the part where he mentioned he wasn't counting 360/pc games as exclusive?

Yes, I noticed that part. Is there some significance there that i am overlooking?

if this was just some 360 vs ps3 thread then he could have included those games. is this really that big of a deal?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

thats not an assumption my friend.

i have never used the term console exclusive and i dislike it intensely.

but it doesn't hurt to say that a certain game is best looking on consoles or a handheld.

crimsonsabre

then what does your "anti-ps3" comment doing there? i'm not, btw.

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're biased against the ps3.
have you checked out the awards thread?

maybe bias is the word i should've used.

anyway, good day to you.

is there some kind of inconsistency or double standards that i employ that make me biased against the ps3?

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

did you not notice the part where he mentioned he wasn't counting 360/pc games as exclusive?

CaseyWegner

Yes, I noticed that part. Is there some significance there that i am overlooking?

if this was just some 360 vs ps3 thread then he could have included those games. is this really that big of a deal?

Aside from that part, the rest of post is mainly Xbox360 vs PS3. And I should point out to you that I wasn't the one to point out that inconsistency, but since you asked, yes it is a deal as that was the basic premise of my argument. But since you say that it doesn't count, I guess I'll have to use my fallback argument.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

Yes, I noticed that part. Is there some significance there that i am overlooking?

OneLazyAsian

if this was just some 360 vs ps3 thread then he could have included those games. is this really that big of a deal?

Aside from that part, the rest of post is mainly Xbox360 vs PS3. And I should point out to you that I wasn't the one to point out that inconsistency, but since you asked, yes it is a deal as that was the basic premise of my argument. But since you say that it doesn't count, I guess I'll have to use my fallback argument.

something needs only be beaten by one thing in order to not be winning in that category.

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

then what does your "anti-ps3" comment doing there? i'm not, btw.

CaseyWegner

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're biased against the ps3.
have you checked out the awards thread?

maybe bias is the word i should've used.

anyway, good day to you.

is there some kind of inconsistency or double standards that i employ that make me biased against the ps3?

you have too many posts for me to go over.

kuraimen, the user from a few posts above thinks you're bias. and there was a massive thread against you (about 7 pages long) but it got locked and... hidden.

as a well known mod, i think it tarnishes your image because you seem to be.... bias against something.

and yeah, i apologize for two of my attacking posts earlier. i usually attack hardcore fanboys, but you're no fanboy.

Op stated facts from my understanding, i agree with the post....im a realistbigboss5ak

Yeah, I guess some it was fact accept for the Kinect part. How could he possibly KNOW how itll do when its not even out. hes assuming. However teh softwrae parts are purely opinon. IMO, Post fails.

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Certainly so since MS now cares mostly about pleasing the casuals with inane party and mini-games. Hell, even Wii is now outclassing it in quality titles.

nervmeister

Those are the LAUNCH games for Kinect, and Move had the same shovelware for its Launch, and their games were abysmal.

Sigh. So tired of hearing the same list of PS3 games that get praised till kingdom come, and do no justice for the PS3 once its released. The 360 still has more exclusives than the PS3. I think I'll be like you and just call that list you provided shovelware.

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if this was just some 360 vs ps3 thread then he could have included those games. is this really that big of a deal?

CaseyWegner

Aside from that part, the rest of post is mainly Xbox360 vs PS3. And I should point out to you that I wasn't the one to point out that inconsistency, but since you asked, yes it is a deal as that was the basic premise of my argument. But since you say that it doesn't count, I guess I'll have to use my fallback argument.

something needs only be beaten by one thing in order to not be winning in that category.

Well great...you just went and jumped at my argument before I did. Thanks a lot...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're biased against the ps3.
have you checked out the awards thread?

maybe bias is the word i should've used.

anyway, good day to you.

crimsonsabre

is there some kind of inconsistency or double standards that i employ that make me biased against the ps3?

you have too many posts for me to go over.

kuraimen, the user from a few posts above thinks you're bias. and there was a massive thread against you (about 7 pages long) but it got locked and... hidden.

as a well known mod, i think it tarnishes your image because you seem to be.... bias against something.

and yeah, i apologize for two of my attacking posts earlier. i usually attack hardcore fanboys, but you're no fanboy.

if you have enough material to form that sort of opinion surely you must be able to offer at least a shred of evidence.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Those are the LAUNCH games for Kinect, and Move had the same shovelware for its Launch, and their games were abysmal.

KaoSXFACTOR

Sigh. So tired of hearing the same list of PS3 games that get praised till kingdom come, and do no justice for the PS3 once its released. The 360 still has more exclusives than the PS3. I think I'll be like you and just call that list you provided shovelware.

Well the PS3 will never catch up in total exclusives unless the 360 takes a year off. By the end of next year, in terms of games worth playing, the systems will continue to be dead even like it was throughout this year.

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're bias against the ps3.

crimsonsabre

Lets compare shall we....

Exclusives

The 360 has more (YES MORE NOT INCLUDING 360/PC multiplats.) And the Wii has more exclusives than either and by far the most AAE+ games... and the PS3 has more AAE and AAAE.

Multiplats

95% of multiplats look and play better on the 360. Plus the 360 shares great games with the PC. 95% can we get a statistic here that proves this? The majority of the time yes but it's usually not even significant.

Games

360 has more games than PS3. You just said this... if a console has more exclusives and share most multiplats it has more games.

Scores

360 has more higher rated games. No it doesn't it's pretty even, and by saying this you seem to be implying that by saying "360 has more games than PS3" sheer numbers win regardless of quality. In that case the Wii wrecks everything else...

Online

Live is better than PSN (Could careless if you have to pay for online. Which seems to be the only defense for that last 5 years. The point is that it's better) Well many people do care about how much it costs this is just an opinion of yours. I highly doubt you've even tried PSN, if you had you'd know it's not as big a disparity as some would have you believe, Live is clearly better but not by that much.

Sales

360 is outselling PS3.

The PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for quite a while... also no mention of how the Wii is crushing both of them in this area?

Motion Controls

Kinect is vastly superior than Move, and next week will prove this. So the 360's ripoff of the Wii is better than the PS3's ripoff the Wii? Wow that's a great advantage there. Not to mention: no just no. It's inaccurate, has horrible lag, only works under certain conditions, is overpriced, and is completely useless in the gaming medium as it is right now.

KaoSXFACTOR

By your logic the Wii is pretty much winning :?.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Op stated facts from my understanding, i agree with the post....im a realistXboximusPrime

Yeah, I guess some it was fact accept for the Kinect part. How could he possibly KNOW how itll do when its not even out. hes assuming. However teh softwrae parts are purely opinon. IMO, Post fails.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

c'mon half of system wars knows that you're biased against the ps3.
have you checked out the awards thread?

maybe bias is the word i should've used.

anyway, good day to you.

crimsonsabre

is there some kind of inconsistency or double standards that i employ that make me biased against the ps3?

you have too many posts for me to go over.

kuraimen, the user from a few posts above thinks you're bias. and there was a massive thread against you (about 7 pages long) but it got locked and... hidden.

as a well known mod, i think it tarnishes your image because you seem to be.... bias against something.

and yeah, i apologize for two of my attacking posts earlier. i usually attack hardcore fanboys, but you're no fanboy.

First off he's not biased. This term is used FAR to long by PS3 fanboys, because anything that doesn't support the PS3 gets labled as BIASED.

I'm not getting into that discussion.....

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Op stated facts from my understanding, i agree with the post....im a realistbigboss5ak

Yeah, I guess some it was fact accept for the Kinect part. How could he possibly KNOW how itll do when its not even out. hes assuming. However teh softwrae parts are purely opinon. IMO, Post fails.

Innovative and uniqueness dosent always translate to somthing that works though.

So tired of hearing the same list of PS3 games that get praised till kingdom come, and do no justice for the PS3 once its released.KaoSXFACTOR

The 360 still has more exclusives than the PS3. I think I'll be like you and just call that list you provided shovelware.

[QUOTE="crimsonsabre"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

is there some kind of inconsistency or double standards that i employ that make me biased against the ps3?

CaseyWegner

you have too many posts for me to go over.

kuraimen, the user from a few posts above thinks you're bias. and there was a massive thread against you (about 7 pages long) but it got locked and... hidden.

as a well known mod, i think it tarnishes your image because you seem to be.... bias against something.

and yeah, i apologize for two of my attacking posts earlier. i usually attack hardcore fanboys, but you're no fanboy.

if you have enough material to form that sort of opinion surely you must be able to offer at least a shred of evidence.

i already gave you that evidence in one of the posts you deleted. go read it again.

The 360 still has more exclusives than the PS3. I think I'll be like you and just call that list you provided shovelware. I had no idea there was such thing as AA-AAA shovelware. Keep trying, TC. :roll:

nervmeister

Glad you can see into the future of 2011 and determine that those games on that list will all be either AA or AAA games....

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

The 360 still has more exclusives than the PS3. I think I'll be like you and just call that list you provided shovelware. I had no idea there was such thing as AA-AAA shovelware. Keep trying, TC. :roll:

KaoSXFACTOR

Glad you can see into the future of 2011 and determine that those games on that list will all be either AA or AAA games....

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Op stated facts from my understanding, i agree with the post....im a realistbigboss5ak

Yeah, I guess some it was fact accept for the Kinect part. How could he possibly KNOW how itll do when its not even out. hes assuming. However teh softwrae parts are purely opinon. IMO, Post fails.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Yeah, I guess some it was fact accept for the Kinect part. How could he possibly KNOW how itll do when its not even out. hes assuming. However teh softwrae parts are purely opinon. IMO, Post fails.

oldkingallant

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

exclusives?

CaseyWegner

my point was that the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 so the pc comment is a little odd.

I love how they're so many PS3 vs 360 threads. All by somewhat frantic lemmings. The PS3 has begun crushing the 360 and the 360s days are numbered. I'd be sad too if the 360 was my console of choice too. :Phexashadow13

Crushing the 360 in terms of what? Games? Exclusives? Scores? Sales? It's not crushing the 360 by any means, if it's losing in those categories.

Let's get to the only points that really matter:

More exclusives : since you seem to like percentage , 95% of those are a pile of hot steaming **** and severely lack originality.

Better rated : HMMM K , 3 halo , 2 forza ,2 project gotham , c'mon we don't play numbers we play games , give me more variety , originality and I'll give that.

Parts that don't matter:

Better looking multiplats : I can counter with better looking exclusives but I'll just stick to the fact that this superiority of yours is barely noticeable , I have both consoles , and anyone that have both two and is not a fanboy will agree with me.

Live better than PSN: Excuse me ,online for me is playing online both can do that , we use the price argument you use the cross chat.Tie here.

Sales :

Kinect better than move : Yeah cause they didn't fake at their shows and that piece of crap never showed to be irresponsive.Oh I know you can go pew pew and play the forza game which the whole objective consists of dodging cars.

every 360 fanboy post i read is ALL OPINIONS. no facts whatsoever.

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]I love how they're so many PS3 vs 360 threads. All by somewhat frantic lemmings. The PS3 has begun crushing the 360 and the 360s days are numbered. I'd be sad too if the 360 was my console of choice too. :PKaoSXFACTOR

Crushing the 360 in terms of what? Games? Exclusives? Scores? Sales? It's not crushing the 360 by any means, if it's losing in those categories.

every 360 fanboy post i read is ALL OPINIONS. no facts whatsoever.

martinX3X

Amazing how I always see it the other way around....

not exactly....gs has awarded goty the last two years to ps3 EXCLUSIVE titles

2008 - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots

2009 - Demons Souls

...the year before that SMG won it. really if you think about it xbox needs to steps their game up

[QUOTE="martinX3X"]

every 360 fanboy post i read is ALL OPINIONS. no facts whatsoever.

KaoSXFACTOR

Amazing how I always see it the other way around....

Thats because you like everyone else is biased. ;)

incoming 10 page thread.

everything is subjective, the PS3 and 360 are equally as good imo.

Dead-Memories

Can you lend me your crystal ball? I want to know when GT5 is coming out. :shock:

That's a really cool opinion. Why not just blog it?Sollet