Project Cafe specs...revealed?

What say you my fellow System Warriors?

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

Project Cafe, one different specs revealed every day.

Anyway, pretty cool if that were the case.

I wish I could understand some of it...but maybe the D-terminal is talking about controllers. So that would mean up to 5 controllers csn connect. Also interesting that it has more video ram than main ram.

Also probably faked as it would not be hard to do.

EDIT: Oh wow. Look what I found after googling the video card. Very Interesting.

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

I'd prefer a little more RAM but 512MB XDR2 RAM+ 1GB GDDR5 RAM + 16 EDRAM still totally smokes the current HD Twins. bandwidth is a LOT higher.

Quad Core CPU at 3.5GHz also smokes the current HD twins and I don't much about the GPU but at 766Mhz it's over 50% faster.

hope not, that's awfully weak for 2011. better than the twins, but not by enough.

I wonder why the image is compressed and grainy. Also, where is the source of this image?thom_maytees

I can actually see this one being real.

Hmm, my prediction of moderatly better PS3 seems to be coming true.

Not really surprised as nintendo always sells at a profit (good profit) and would likely launch at 300-350

Hmm, my prediction of moderatly better PS3 seems to be coming true.

Not really surprised as nintendo always sells at a profit (good profit) and would likely launch at 300-350

dercoo

hope not, that's awfully weak for 2011. better than the twins, but not by enough.

lespaul1919

512mbs of system ram, 1 gig of video ram.

Now we're talking.

wasn't the r770 gpu the 48xx series? that's what, 3 or more years old? that's a gen ahead of the 78xx that the RSX is. not good enough, but will keep price down.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

22Toothpicks

Maybe you should look at the specs more closely. You mixed up the GPU with the CPU.

According to your specs,

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PS3 CPU = 230.4 GFLOPS single-precision, 100 GFLOPS double-precision

Cafe CPU = 175.9 GFLOPS single-precision, 87.6 GFLOPS double-precision

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PS3 GPU = 550 MHz

Cafe GPU = 766 MHz

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PS3 RAM = 256 MB main memory

Cafe RAM = 512 MB main memory

Blu-Ray? Doubt it, Nintendo probably would stick with DVD, than add a BD drive to drive up the costs, even if the system had a BD drive, it probably won't play BD. yoshi_64

Looks reasnoble but I think we'll have to wait untill E3 for clarification (and even then maybe all things regarding hardware won't be fully revealed).

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

Actually the Dreamcast was a lot better than the N64. Almost ten times the polygon power.

And I think it's expected now that "Project Cafe" will be more like an upgrade of current gen rather than a powerhouse. Let's just hope they keep the price down.

That looks mostly true, glad it's going for a quad core unlike that triple core from that other rumor.

512mbs of system ram, 1 gig of video ram.

Now we're talking.

Wasdie

Seems pretty fake to me, though it wouldn't surprise me if the specs ended up being somewhere in the ballpark of that image.

Also, why is that image so horribly and unnecessarily compressed? Maybe the person who made the image thought that the blurrier and more pixelated the image is, the more legit it will seem.

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

If it was a N64 to Dreamcast type upgrade, it would be pretty significant. :|

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Blu-Ray? Doubt it, Nintendo probably would stick with DVD, than add a BD drive to drive up the costs, even if the system had a BD drive, it probably won't play BD. foxhound_fox

me hopes its real at 350 $ a steal , it would obliberate 360 and ps3 at that price lol id like to see people pay 300 for a ps3 360 with that monster on the market lol

hope not, that's awfully weak for 2011. better than the twins, but not by enough.

lespaul1919

Isn't it unusual that it would have more VRAM than system RAM? I guess that could make sense for a game console since it doesn't have a heavy OS like Windows, and it doesn't have to run multiple applications at a time but its still weird.Zero5000X

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

Maybe you should look at the specs more closely. You mixed up the GPU with the CPU.

According to your specs,

---

PS3 CPU = 230.4 GFLOPS single-precision, 100 GFLOPS double-precision

Cafe CPU = 175.9 GFLOPS single-precision, 87.6 GFLOPS double-precision

---

PS3 GPU = 550 MHz

Cafe GPU = 766 MHz

---

PS3 RAM = 256 MB main memory

Cafe RAM = 512 MB main memory

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Hmm, my prediction of moderatly better PS3 seems to be coming true.

Not really surprised as nintendo always sells at a profit (good profit) and would likely launch at 300-350

22Toothpicks

Its better, but not the "OMGWTFBBQ 4-6X the Ps3!!!" that Sheep hyped it to be.

Seems doulble at most in some areas

For next gen thats just sad, like the wii was this gen

wasn't the r770 gpu the 48xx series? that's what, 3 or more years old? that's a gen ahead of the 78xx that the RSX is. not good enough, but will keep price down.

lespaul1919

1. Nintendo never reveals official specs. 2. Numbers mean nothing, as teh Cell has proven greatly. Numbers on paper look nice, but if developers can't use them, then what is the point? As long as it makes a jump over the capabilities of the 360/PS3 (i.e. DirectX 10 or 11 compatible and full 1080p @ 60fps), then it will be enough. Being "top-of-the-line" as history has so gloriously shown, is a formula for failure.foxhound_fox

Yes they do , the only time they didnt was on the Wii because they were far lower then the competition.

wasn't the r770 gpu the 48xx series? that's what, 3 or more years old? that's a gen ahead of the 78xx that the RSX is. not good enough, but will keep price down.

lespaul1919

You do realize that R770 is about four times faster than the RSX, right?

Seems reasonable. I wish it was more, but honestly, none of the companies are going to be putting out a machine that will blow you away in the next couple years. If they do it will be quite expensive on console standards.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

RawDeal_basic

If it was a N64 to Dreamcast type upgrade, it would be pretty significant. :|

Are you sure about that? Let's have a direct comparison:

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Nintendo 64 CPU: 93.75 MHz

Dreamcast CPU: 200 MHz

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Nintendo 64 GPU: 62.5 MHz

Dreamcast GPU: 100 MHz

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Nintendo 64 Main RAM: 4 MB (expandable to 8 )

Dreamcast Main RAM: 16 MB

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How is that a "significant" step up?

Compared to what the OP has shown us for Cafe specs, I don't think I'm off-base with my claim at all.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Hmm, my prediction of moderatly better PS3 seems to be coming true.

Not really surprised as nintendo always sells at a profit (good profit) and would likely launch at 300-350

dercoo

Its better, but not the "OMGWTFBBQ 4-6X the Ps3!!!" that Sheep hyped it to be.

Seems doulble at most in some areas

For next gen thats just sad, like the wii was this gen

Its more powerful then the PS3 no doubt but the PS4 will dump all over Nintendos console most likely.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

wasn't the r770 gpu the 48xx series? that's what, 3 or more years old? that's a gen ahead of the 78xx that the RSX is. not good enough, but will keep price down.

mitu123

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

If it was a N64 to Dreamcast type upgrade, it would be pretty significant. :|

Are you sure about that? Let's have a direct comparison:

---

Nintendo 64 CPU: 93.75 MHz

Dreamcast CPU: 200 MHz

---

Nintendo 64 GPU: 62.5 MHz

Dreamcast GPU: 100 MHz

---

Nintendo 64 Main RAM: 4 MB (expandable to 8 )

Dreamcast Main RAM: 16 MB

---

How is that a "significant" step up?

Compared to what the OP has shown us for Cafe specs, I don't think I'm off-base with my claim at all.

From a graphic stadpoint for its time the Dreamcast was leaps and bounds better then the N64. I remember first seeing it at a Walmart on display and my jaw droped.

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Knowing Nintendo, it wouldn't surprise me if those were the final specs.

But I really hope not...because that would place Cafe only modestly better than the PS3 + 360, kind of like a N64 -> Dreamcast upgrade.

peterw007

If it was a N64 to Dreamcast type upgrade, it would be pretty significant. :|

Are you sure about that? Let's have a direct comparison:

---

Nintendo 64 CPU: 93.75 MHz

Dreamcast CPU: 200 MHz

---

Nintendo 64 GPU: 62.5 MHz

Dreamcast GPU: 100 MHz

---

Nintendo 64 Main RAM: 4 MB (expandable to 8 )

Dreamcast Main RAM: 16 MB

---

How is that a "significant" step up?

Compared to what the OP has shown us for Cafe specs, I don't think I'm off-base with my claim at all.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

wasn't the r770 gpu the 48xx series? that's what, 3 or more years old? that's a gen ahead of the 78xx that the RSX is. not good enough, but will keep price down.

22Toothpicks

you guys are missing my point. they need to aim to beat or contend with the next PS or the next XBOX, NOT THE CURRENT ONES. yes these specs are better than the twins......but do you think this is the level they will shoot for as well? should be at least 69xx level.

but yes 4xxx > 7800GT

just for the record Sony quietly downgraded the RSX from 550mhz to 500mhz. Word circled the net a few years back but Sony kept quiet about the change.

1. Nintendo never reveals official specs.foxhound_fox

I could have sworn that Nintendo released the offical Gamecube specs at one point.

just for the record Sony quietly downgraded the RSX from 550mhz to 500mhz. Word circled the net a few years back but Sony kept quiet about the change.

CwlHeddwyn

No they didnt, That was a rumor and when the offical specs came out after the console was released it was still at 550mhz.

It will be an awesome console. Till the new xbox and ps3 come out and blow it away spec-wise and most likely a much heavier price tag as well though. If the system if gonna be around 5, 6, 7 years I think I'd rather have a heavier price tag with better specs. AutoPilotOn