Pratcher: XB1: $399, PS4 $349

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#1 StormyJoe
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Not sure why he says the PS4 is is more inexpensive to manufacture, but there it is.

Still, Patcher is less accurate than metoroligists are at predicting next month's weather, so I guess we should take it with a grain of salt.

Sorry if this was posted already (I didn't see a thread on it)...

http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/03/analyst-predicts-xbox-one-priced-at-400-playstation-4-at-350/

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#2 ShoulderOfOrion
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inb4 cows trust pachter again
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#3 Silenthps
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isn't PS4 being sold at a profit? How could it be 350 when the 350$ Wiiu was sold at a loss?
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#4 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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1. Its Pactcher so cry cows when the PS4 debuts way higher than the 360.

2. If this is true the XB1 is screwed. THe only way MS can compete is to have it priced under the PS4.

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#5 whathursthemost
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I don't see the PS4 being less than 400$ and since when the fawk is patcher even worth posting on SYSWARS
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#6 Rattlesnake_8
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I can't see them selling the systems so cheap, but if they do then thats a couple extra games people can afford.
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#7 Heil68
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Price is irrelevant when talking about the soon to be JUUUGGERRRNNNNAUUUTT PS4.
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#8 lx_theo
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isn't PS4 being sold at a profit? How could it be 350 when the 350$ Wiiu was sold at a loss? Silenthps
They said they were prepared to sell it at a competitive price. They never said anything more if it'd be for profit or loss. As for why, the PS4 won't be sold with the PS4 Eye, versus something like the Wii U that also is carrying a big extra expense with that stupid controller.
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#9 gamecubepad
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I believe we'll see $399 and $499 models. If only a single model, then $499.

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#10 Jack-Burton
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Price is irrelevant when talking about the soon to be JUUUGGERRRNNNNAUUUTT PS4. Heil68
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#11 nameless12345
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Wasn't the suggested price for X1 500$ (300$ with yearly subscription) and the suggested for PS4 430$?

Neither will bring their makers a big loss tho.

This is no repeating of the RRODbox and CELLStation.

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#13 TheRealBigRich
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I was wondering what the price of the consoles were going to be the other day and I cant see them being like this. The PS4 should be at least 400 to 450 and the X1 will be 350-400

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#14 Wasdie  Moderator
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The guy is usually full of shit so I'm not really going to trust him on this.

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#15 pcgamingowns
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no kinect lol
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#16 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Price is irrelevant when talking about the soon to be JUUUGGERRRNNNNAUUUTT PS4. Jack-Burton

You can tell he's ready for the world class PS4 Jack, what about you?
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#17 shawn30
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Not sure why he says the PS4 is is more inexpensive to manufacture, but there it is.

Still, Patcher is less accurate than metoroligists are at predicting next month's weather, so I guess we should take it with a grain of salt.

Sorry if this was posted already (I didn't see a thread on it)...

http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/03/analyst-predicts-xbox-one-priced-at-400-playstation-4-at-350/

StormyJoe
Those would be great prices, but God.... Patcher is often wrong about everything.
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#18 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Price is irrelevant when talking about the soon to be JUUUGGERRRNNNNAUUUTT PS4. Jack-Burton
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Is he, a pen***?
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#19 TheRealBigRich
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Ms might have made a mistake by packing those Kinects with every X1. Most people wont see the as a necessary feature and thats going to add to the price. I can see them selling it for 400 and the ps4 could sell for 400 and that would take away at least the price advantage the x1 should have

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No one gets his name right.
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Our estimate of the bill of materials for the Xbox One based upon speculation regarding many of the specs is around $325, suggesting that Microsoft could make a modest profit at the $399 price point. For the PS4, we remain confident that the new console will have a lower initial MSRP than the PS3, which had a lofty starting price of $599 that we believe negatively impacted its long-term popularity. We expect the PS4 to debut at $349, as our estimate of the bill of materials is $275.

WHAT, If the kinect really inflates the price that much, it better have flawless boob tracking and has DoA 6 as a launch game.

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No one gets his name right.AcidThunder
lol I went off title, you're right.
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#23 Jack-Burton
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Price is irrelevant when talking about the soon to be JUUUGGERRRNNNNAUUUTT PS4. Heil68

You can tell he's ready for the world class PS4 Jack, what about you?

Locked and Loaded pal
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#24 Shewgenja
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If I remember correctly, a spokesperson at AMD did state that MS and Sony had similar budgets for their silicon.  That seems to indicate that the system themselves are fairly comparable in manufacturing cost.  In the case of the XBone, however, having Kinect as mandatory could be an albatross.

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#25 CanYouDiglt
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I do not see Sony selling the PS4 that cheap. They can not sell it where they break even or even a slight profit since they need money. I mean the company is selling itself off left and right to raise cash.
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#26 DrRockso87
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Patcher is usually full of crap but here I hope he's correct. That would be pretty cheap for both consoles.

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#27 Tessellation
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both have cameras so no,they will cost marginally the same.
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#28 Mrmedia01
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Well X1 has all kinds of OS's and TV crap, so I would think it would cost more because it is half cable box, half game system lol. PS4 has more power though.

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#29 Nengo_Flow
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Thats crazy talk from a deranged man.
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isn't PS4 being sold at a profit? How could it be 350 when the 350$ Wiiu was sold at a loss? Silenthps

No.

But anyway, I see PS4 being $400 at the lowest (£359 at the lowest in the UK).

Xbone... could be cheaper as it has less impressive hardware. Maybe if we swap around what Pachter said it could seem doable.

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#31 Mrmedia01
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Well X1 has all kinds of OS's and TV crap, so I would think it would cost more because it is half cable box, half game system lol. PS4 has more power though.

Mrmedia01

 

Anyways I hope these systems come in at $400 than I could buy a PS4.

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#32 LordSadic
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both have cameras so no,they will cost marginally the same.Tessellation

Not the same situation, the kinect is far more expensive and will be bundled with the console, the eyetoy is optional and is just a fancy webcam.

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#33 Riverwolf007
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if the x1 is more than the ps4 they don't have a chance in hell.

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#34 Jack-Burton
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both have cameras so no,they will cost marginally the same.Tessellation
Apparently you can Buy Ps4 with out an Eyetoy so maybe that is the price for the base SkU
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#35 2Chalupas
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Day 1 PS4.
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#36 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Lets look back at some of Michael Pachter's predictions Kinect will be $50. Very surprised if its more than $79, hard to envision at $150. In March of 2009 he claimed the PS3/360 generation would be the last Also in march of 2009 he said that GTA V would release in 2010 and outsell GTA IV July of 2009 he changed his mind and said GTA V would launch by 2011 December of 2010 GTA V will launch by the end of 2012. Also in 2010 Pachter said that Microsoft would soon introduce a $100 "Platinum" xbox Live subscription. PS3 would pass the sales of the Wii. About 23 million off on that one.
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#37 AcidThunder
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[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]No one gets his name right.blue_hazy_basic
lol I went off title, you're right.

LOL.You got it wrong again.
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#38 Chutebox
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The guy is usually full of shit so I'm not really going to trust him on this.

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On this and everything he says....ever.
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#39 Chutebox
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both have cameras so no,they will cost marginally the same.Tessellation
The hardware in the machines are quite different though, cost wise as well.
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#40 Timstuff
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I think PS4 will be more expensive, but Xbox One will require a contract.
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#41 Floppy_Jim
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GDDR5 RAM vs DDR3 RAM, built in Kinect, ESRAM, 40nm processor...it's not actually a stretch.
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#42 CRUSHER88
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Seems possible.
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#43 Slow_Show
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It makes sense from the BoM side of things, but the question (particularly with the Xbone) has always been how big a profit/loss per unit MS and Sony would target. MS could be anywhere from $300-$500 depending on what their marketing department is telling them (i.e. sell it cheap and make the difference back on XBL vs. it's a premium product that can be sold at a premium price), and Sony is going to be under pressure to keep the price as high as they think gamers will stomach considering the company's less than stellar financials.

Also worth noting that MS is all-but-certainly going to push XBL-subscription subsidized SKUs again, so even if the MSRP is $400 most people are probably going to be picking them up for $200 (based on how they currently price the subsidized 360s). 

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#44 Chris_Williams
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i'm guessing 400-450 for both

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#45 stizzal13
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This is the same guy that said this will be the last generation of consoles back in 2009.
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September 2005 - From a New York Times article Believing that MMOs would die a death, Pachter said: I don't think there are four million people in the world who really want to play online games every month. World of Warcraft is such an exception. I frankly think it's the buzz factor, and eventually it will come back to the mean, maybe a million subscribers."
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#48 pcgamingowns
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What sucks the consoles wont be ps1 and the original xbox launch price 299$.

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#49 tormentos
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both have cameras so no,they will cost marginally the same.Tessellation

 

The PS4 one is say to be not included,in act shots from a promo video of the PS4 show  remark about the camera been sold separately.

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#50 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]isn't PS4 being sold at a profit? How could it be 350 when the 350$ Wiiu was sold at a loss? lx_theo
They said they were prepared to sell it at a competitive price. They never said anything more if it'd be for profit or loss. As for why, the PS4 won't be sold with the PS4 Eye, versus something like the Wii U that also is carrying a big extra expense with that stupid controller.

Well they explicitly said that it won't be sold at a major loss. But I guess I did misinterpret that since not being sold at a major loss doesn't necessarily means it's being sold at a profit.