PlayStation Vita 3G Downloads Limited to 20 Megabytes

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#1 PSP107
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Is that good or bad?

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http://andriasang.com/comye0/

Let the 20 page long debate begin!

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#2 Wasdie  Moderator
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Link? Source? I'll give you a few minutes to provide one.

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#3 peterw007
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Here's the link.

http://andriasang.com/comye0/

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#4 BigBoss154
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Link? Source? I'll give you a few minutes to provide one.

Wasdie

It's on the first page of VG247, GS won't let me link for some reason.

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#5 Chris_Williams
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no one should even get the 3G model, not until they get more providers

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#6 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Link? Source? I'll give you a few minutes to provide one.

BigBoss154

It's on the first page of VG247, GS won't let me link for some reason.

you can always paste a non-clickable link.

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#7 JigglyWiggly_
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20 megabytes? WAT

Just loading like 3 youtube videos or like 15 different websites would use that much.

EDIT: Does he mean that the maximum file size you can download is 20 megabytes or what?

Also software limited speeds to 128/64 kb/s? Wtf is this madness?

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#8 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Link? Source? I'll give you a few minutes to provide one.

CaseyWegner

It's on the first page of VG247, GS won't let me link for some reason.

you can always paste a non-clickable link.

Just wrap stuff in url tags. {url} {/url} replace the { with a [ and the } with a }. :D

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#9 KC_Hokie
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That's terrible. They're going to have to increase that limit.
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#10 starwarsjunky
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i'm getting the wifi only version, so it doesn't bother me :P
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#11 stizz-
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^ it's bad.

You'll still have to find a WiFi hotspot if you want to download games, movies, most DLC, etc. You might not even be able to dl a firmware update in 20mb. The 3g option is looking kind of worthless since there's already concern that it's too slow to do online gaming and the short battery life. With this it seems that you will most definitely have to be plugged in and at a hotspot to get content.

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I had no plans on getting the 3G model, but this is really crappy. First if you don't have their 3G provider, you have to subscribe to that, then you're limited to only 20 Megabytes per download. Say goodbye to downloading full games. Sure it's fine for facebook browsing, but I have a damn phone for that.

The 3G model will be dead a few months into the life of the Vita as it's pointless to have.

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#13 JigglyWiggly_
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I had no plans on getting the 3G model, but this is really crappy. First if you don't have their 3G provider, you have to subscribe to that, then you're limited to only 20 Megabytes per download. Say goodbye to downloading full games. Sure it's fine for facebook browsing, but I have a damn phone for that.

The 3G model will be dead a few months into the life of the Vita as it's pointless to have.

Wasdie
Wait is the 20megabytes free? Can you just sub the Vita under a normal plan?
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#14 APiranhaAteMyVa
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20 megabytes? WAT

Just loading like 3 youtube videos or like 15 different websites would use that much.

EDIT: Does he mean that the maximum file size you can download is 20 megabytes or what?

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I think it means maximum file size.
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#15 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I had no plans on getting the 3G model, but this is really crappy. First if you don't have their 3G provider, you have to subscribe to that, then you're limited to only 20 Megabytes per download. Say goodbye to downloading full games. Sure it's fine for facebook browsing, but I have a damn phone for that.

The 3G model will be dead a few months into the life of the Vita as it's pointless to have.

JigglyWiggly_

Wait is the 20megabytes free? Can you just sub the Vita under a normal plan?

I think they are using AT&T for their 3G, so if you have a data plan from AT&T, you can use the Vita on that. Otherwise you have to pay. Then they only allow the Vita's max download size per file to be 20mbs. So games are pretty much out of the question.

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:O
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#17 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I had no plans on getting the 3G model, but this is really crappy. First if you don't have their 3G provider, you have to subscribe to that, then you're limited to only 20 Megabytes per download. Say goodbye to downloading full games. Sure it's fine for facebook browsing, but I have a damn phone for that.

The 3G model will be dead a few months into the life of the Vita as it's pointless to have.

JigglyWiggly_

Wait is the 20megabytes free? Can you just sub the Vita under a normal plan?

You have to buy 20 hour or 100 hour cards for 3G. The speed limitations are imposed upon that.

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#18 Led_poison
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Pay $50 more for 20mb downloads
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#19 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I had no plans on getting the 3G model, but this is really crappy. First if you don't have their 3G provider, you have to subscribe to that, then you're limited to only 20 Megabytes per download. Say goodbye to downloading full games. Sure it's fine for facebook browsing, but I have a damn phone for that.

The 3G model will be dead a few months into the life of the Vita as it's pointless to have.

Wasdie

Wait is the 20megabytes free? Can you just sub the Vita under a normal plan?

I think they are using AT&T for their 3G, so if you have a data plan from AT&T, you can use the Vita on that. Otherwise you have to pay. Then they only allow the Vita's max download size per file to be 20mbs. So games are pretty much out of the question.

why are limitations so insane then? It would be like paying for another other mobile device... I was planning on getting the 3g model, but these restrictions are stupid.
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#20 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Just do what I'm doing, and get the Wifi model. Why Sony even bothered with a 3G version is beyond me.
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#21 AtariKidX
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I don't really care for that...........because i will buy the Wifi model.
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#22 mmmwksil
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Way to cripple the 3G model. Is Sony even trying to make it work? :lol:

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#23 PSP107
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Link? Source? I'll give you a few minutes to provide one.

It's on the first page of VG247, GS won't let me link for some reason.

I know. Did they change the system or somthing?
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#24 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Okay, so this is slightly better than the initital rumor, but only slightly just- apparently, there is a limit of 20MB per file, but there is no limit on the number of files that can be downloaded.
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#25 mmmwksil
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Okay, so this is slightly better than the initital rumor, but only slightly just- apparently, there is a limit of 20MB per file, but there is no limit on the number of files that can be downloaded.charizard1605

But why place the limit in the first place? :|

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#26 Gamingclone
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Limited to 20 Mb per file? good lord...

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, so this is slightly better than the initital rumor, but only slightly just- apparently, there is a limit of 20MB per file, but there is no limit on the number of files that can be downloaded.mmmwksil

But why place the limit in the first place? :|

It's standard for all 3G connections. The iPhone, for instance, has this same limit imposed upon it.
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#28 peterw007
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, so this is slightly better than the initital rumor, but only slightly just- apparently, there is a limit of 20MB per file, but there is no limit on the number of files that can be downloaded.mmmwksil

But why place the limit in the first place? :|

Maybe because they didn't want to have heavy users dragging down the system with massive downloads / 1080p streams on the Vita?

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#29 MFDOOM1983
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People thought they would be able to game online with 3g speeds? Lol
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#30 CDUB316
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You won't be able to game online with 3G speeds and you can only download 20mbs....so what exactly is the purpose of a 3G model?

save yourself $50 and buy the wifi model....you can buy an extra vita game with that $50

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#31 SakusEnvoy
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20MB download limit isn't necessarily terrible, if it means unlimited data.

Streaming video isn't necessarily counted against that limit, either -- it's unclear to say from the wording.

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#32 finalstar2007
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WIFI version!

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#33 CDUB316
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20MB download limit isn't necessarily terrible, if it means unlimited data.

Streaming video isn't necessarily counted against that limit, either -- it's unclear to say from the wording.

SakusEnvoy

everything i would want to download to my Vita would be well over 20MB

also the average PSP system firmware update i believe was around 32mb...i expect vitas to be bigger so you couldn't download that

hell....even some game saves are over 20mb

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#34 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

20MB download limit isn't necessarily terrible, if it means unlimited data.

Streaming video isn't necessarily counted against that limit, either -- it's unclear to say from the wording.

CDUB316

everything i would want to download to my Vita would be well over 20MB

also the average PSP system firmware update i believe was around 32mb...i expect vitas to be bigger so you couldn't download that

hell....even some game saves are over 20mb

Almost everyone in the West will pick up the Wi-fi version anyhow, and I'm sure Sony knows that.

The 3G version was probably developed with Japan in mind, because the number of free wi-fi locations over there are very limited. Since people in Japan carry around their handhelds like we do laptops and tablets, and the 5" multitouch screen is perfect for browsing, it'll be a great alternative to using a cell phone for accessing the 'net.

But definitely not in America, where Wi-fi spots are plentiful, and devices like the iPad hold much more prestige than devices like the Vita.

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#35 JigglyWiggly_
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I wanted the 3g version ;'( Seems crappy though, prolly gona go with the wi-fi.
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#36 Johnny_Rock
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Is that good or bad?

Mod edit:

Let the 20 page long debate begin!

PSP107

Eh. That's how it is on my iPhone as well. If I want to download anything bigger I need to be using wifi. Which isn't a big deal. I download everything at home.

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#37 RavenLoud
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Will this affect the usage of Skype/internet browsing on 3G? If not it's not that bad.

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#38 SRTtoZ
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Yep all 3g devices have this...its nothing new. If you have an Iphone and download a big app, it tells you to connect to Wifi to download the app.

Anyway, Wifi for me since 3g isnt good enough for online gaming or downloading games to begin with.

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#39 hiphop_quotable
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...a Sony Computer Entertainment representative said that 3G downloads will be limited to 20 megabyte file sizes initially. The representative added that this value could change in the future.

article

Did anybody actually read the article? :|

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#40 Johnny_Rock
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Wait... is the Vita only 3G or only Wifi? There isn't one that has both?

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#41 Diviniuz
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this is so bad....unless their goal is to kill off the 3g model within 1 month
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#42 hiphop_quotable
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Wait... is the Vita only 3G or only Wifi? There isn't one that has both?

Johnny_Rock

$299 model has 3g and wifi

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#43 tormentos
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Horrible but is AT&T which doesn't have unlimited internet.
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#44 balfe1990
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Well who thought they'd be downloading full games or playing online over a 3G connection anyway?

This really isn't deserving of a thread.

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#45 Merex760
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20mb per download is a standard limitation for 3G networks. Smartphones have the same limitation. Why would it be any different for the Vita?

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#46 Mr_BillGates
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3G and most mobile-internet services are a huge ripoff.

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#47 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, so this is slightly better than the initital rumor, but only slightly just- apparently, there is a limit of 20MB per file, but there is no limit on the number of files that can be downloaded.peterw007

But why place the limit in the first place? :|

Maybe because they didn't want to have heavy users dragging down the system with massive downloads / 1080p streams on the Vita?

I have difficulty streaming 1080p video when I'm on a cable connection, much less 3g.

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#48 SakusEnvoy
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20mb per download is a standard limitation for 3G networks. Smartphones have the same limitation. Why would it be any different for the Vita?

Merex760

I don't recall having any problem downloading files > 20mb over 3G on my Android smartphone, though. Not within the web browser anyhow. I thought the limit was only imposed on the App Stores/Markets.

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#49 painguy1
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hmmmm maybe its just 20mb per file. i dont think Sony would impose such a stupid restriction

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#50 daiyume
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Couldn't they remove this limit through a firmware update?

3G downloads will be limited to 20 megabyte file sizes initially.andriasang
I think what they meant was they'd just increase the limit later, at least I hope so.