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http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/playstation-3/news/ps3-may-be-just-3-million-away-from-eclipsing-xbox-360-lifetime-sales/a-201010291558242029/g-20060314115917309058

According to this report, PS3 has sold 41.6 million consoles WW. And the 360 selling 44.6 million WW.

http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/10/29/1-billion-entertainment-hours-spent-on-xbox-live-every-month.aspx

Now we have Major Nelson saying 360 has sold 42 million consoles.

Sooo, whos right here? is the the lead really only 400k?

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maybe those are shipped numbers, and major nelson is reporting sold #'s

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financial reports use shipped numbers
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Maybe no source is truly reliable and they all pull their numbers out their collective .....

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#5 XboximusPrime
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Im interested to see sold numbers for PS3 now.

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Its obviously a round off. I dont think it makes a difference at being 41.6 or 42 when coming from a major nelson blog.
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As I made mention in the other thread you posted this, Major Nelson's probably rounding up the last financial figures (41.7 iirc). Those numbers were the most official we had until the last couple days.

Always use the financial figures. They are the easiest to compare and are the only numbers that legally have to be accurate. Anything else can be old, conjecture, spin, or anything else. Just stick with the reports.

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Im interested to see sold numbers for PS3 now.

XboximusPrime
me too...
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Im interested to see sold numbers for PS3 now.

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me too...

those are the sold numbers. Oh and you were proven wrong just likei had predicted. Remember my PM's?

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Trust the official report numbers. They are bound by law to keep those true.
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Im interested to see sold numbers for PS3 now.

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me too...

me three...

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#12 right4dead
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those are the sold number for both, i dont think major nelson has updated its data yet, anyways the lead seems to be getting smaller and smaller

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It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

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You are confused? well just do what I do, STOP carring about sales, and start playing games. Works for me, maybe it will for you too 8)
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it's all an estimate, you can't get exact numbers.

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Major nelson says 42 million consoles in 35 countries. Im pretty sure theres more countries then that in the world. I wouldnt know being that USA is the only country I care about.

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So, it's official.. XBox 720 announcement at E3 2011 LOL

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Major nelson says 42 million consoles in 35 countries. Im pretty sure theres more countries then that in the world. I wouldnt know being that USA is the only country I care about.

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Gotta admit, that made me chuckle :lol:

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It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

-Snooze-

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

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You're confused about the difference between shipped and sold. MS has sold about 5 million more 360s than PS3s and Sony has shipped about 3 million less PS3s than 360s. This is expected since MS had to clean inventory for the Slim release.

The number on the FS are those that are shipped.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

StealthMonkey4

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

lundy86_4

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

Well, I guess in SW. It's not going to affect anything though.

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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

lundy86_4

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.
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Well, I guess in SW. It's not going to affect anything though.

StealthMonkey4

Nope. It will change nothing at all, bar our small corner of the internet.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

themyth01

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.

ehhh look how much have sold the ps3 more than the 360 for the last year. don't know if trends will continue though
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

themyth01

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.

The gap is only three million, and the 360 released a year earlier, I really don't see how it'll take so long.

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With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that. themyth01

Oh yeah, if it happens it'll probably be damn near irrelevant. Won't stop the Cows though.

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

Giancar

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.

ehhh look how much have sold the ps3 more than the 360 for the last year. don't know if trends will continue though

Look at NPD for this entire year. PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 a single month, with the difference widening after the Slim. Even EU numbers had the 360 sell a lot more after Slim release, which is why the difference went from 4 million back to 5 million. It's probably the difference will fluctuate with Kinect, Move, game releases and price reductions. MS has good space to reduce 360 price since they've been making money on it for years now.

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It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

-Snooze-

what's hilarious is that it will have taken sony 5 years to get there. :lol: if it even happens.

Now.That.Is.Hilarious!

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what's hilarious is that it will have taken sony 5 years to get there. :lol: if it even happens.

Now.That.Is.Hilarious!

lazerface216

With their start, i'm downright astonished they managed to catch up at all.

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

StealthMonkey4

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.

The gap is only three million, and the 360 released a year earlier, I really don't see how it'll take so long.

If we're going by units shipped it will still be a while since 360 has been selling more lately thanks to Slim and later due to Kinect. Going by units sold, the difference is well over 5 million and again widening as well.
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#32 themyth01
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what's hilarious is that it will have taken sony 5 years to get there. :lol: if it even happens.

Now.That.Is.Hilarious!

lundy86_4

With their start, i'm downright astonished they managed to catch up at all.

That would be the hardest fall in any industry?! going from 150 million units sold and being the dominant first place to third place is ridiculous.
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You're confused about the difference between shipped and sold. MS has sold about 5 million more 360s than PS3s and Sony has shipped about 3 million less PS3s than 360s. This is expected since MS had to clean inventory for the Slim release.

The number on the FS are those that are shipped.

themyth01

We all know that the fiscal reports all report shipped figures. You wanna clue us in where you got that 5 million more 360s sold figure? The slim release was at the beginning of this quarter. Are you inferring MS never got around to stocking the stores back up?

Unless you have some actual figures, let's not put guesswork into this. You'll never find more accurate or more comparable figures than the fiscal reports. Nothing else is as comprehensive, and everything else seems to involve a lot of postulating.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that. themyth01

ehhh look how much have sold the ps3 more than the 360 for the last year. don't know if trends will continue though

Look at NPD for this entire year. PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 a single month, with the difference widening after the Slim. Even EU numbers had the 360 sell a lot more after Slim release, which is why the difference went from 4 million back to 5 million. It's probably the difference will fluctuate with Kinect, Move, game releases and price reductions. MS has good space to reduce 360 price since they've been making money on it for years now.

Again, NPD isn't the world PS3 has a big system seller too, GT and a great exclusive lineup for next year (including some japanese system sellers) if anything, the lasts quarter reports showed us that the 360 slime effects weren't that big the possibility is there, don't know if it will happen though, as I don't have a crystal ball
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what's hilarious is that it will have taken sony 5 years to get there. :lol: if it even happens.

Now.That.Is.Hilarious!

lundy86_4

With their start, i'm downright astonished they managed to catch up at all.

me too, i'm glad to see them pulling through.

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what's hilarious is that it will have taken sony 5 years to get there. :lol: if it even happens.

Now.That.Is.Hilarious!

lundy86_4

With their start, i'm downright astonished they managed to catch up at all.

with one of the crappiest starts ever :P
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's.Going.To.Be.Hilarious!

When the PS3 outsells the Xbox

HILARIOUS!

StealthMonkey4

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

SW will likely explode for awhile after the first source says this.

You know with allot of flaming of that source by lemmings, and over-boasting by cows.

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me too, i'm glad to see them pulling through.

lazerface216

Hey, it just means more games for us :P

with one of the crappiest starts ever :PGiancar

Lol, I was trying to sugar coat it just a little bit:lol: It was pretty frickin bad.

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Let's start talking about how the PS4 will sink Sony and just get that conversation out of the way while we're at it.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"] ehhh look how much have sold the ps3 more than the 360 for the last year. don't know if trends will continue thoughGiancar

Look at NPD for this entire year. PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 a single month, with the difference widening after the Slim. Even EU numbers had the 360 sell a lot more after Slim release, which is why the difference went from 4 million back to 5 million. It's probably the difference will fluctuate with Kinect, Move, game releases and price reductions. MS has good space to reduce 360 price since they've been making money on it for years now.

Again, NPD isn't the world PS3 has a big system seller too, GT and a great exclusive lineup for next year (including some japanese system sellers) if anything, the lasts quarter reports showed us that the 360 slime effects weren't that big the possibility is there, don't know if it will happen though, as I don't have a crystal ball

Didn't say it was. NPD is 47% of the world gaming market. Pretty damn relevant. Japan is the smallest of the big three markets. GT has lost relevance to the shooters of today, and pre-orders show it being a shadow of its former self. The biggest thing that gives consoles momentum is price drops and MS hadn't had one in a very long time, so they have that at their disposal, not so easy for Sony to do that though.
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that. themyth01

The gap is only three million, and the 360 released a year earlier, I really don't see how it'll take so long.

If we're going by units shipped it will still be a while since 360 has been selling more lately thanks to Slim and later due to Kinect. Going by units sold, the difference is well over 5 million and again widening as well.

Where did you get your numbers?

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

What's so hilarious? Nothing will change.

themyth01

Are you kidding me? The lulz will be hilarious on that day with mega DC from Lems and then Cows having an ego the size of a small planet :P

With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that.

The guy you are quoting wasn't being a fanboy. He is saying from a neutral perspective it will be funny.

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[QUOTE="themyth01"]

You're confused about the difference between shipped and sold. MS has sold about 5 million more 360s than PS3s and Sony has shipped about 3 million less PS3s than 360s. This is expected since MS had to clean inventory for the Slim release.

The number on the FS are those that are shipped.

santoron

We all know that the fiscal reports all report shipped figures. You wanna clue us in where you got that 5 million more 360s sold figure? The slim release was at the beginning of this quarter. Are you inferring MS never got around to stocking the stores back up?

Unless you have some actual figures, let's not put guesswork into this. You'll never find more accurate or more comparable figures than the fiscal reports. Nothing else is as comprehensive, and everything else seems to involve a lot of postulating.

NPD, Media Create and UK charts == VGchartz. Where are your numbers coming from?
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] Look at NPD for this entire year. PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 a single month, with the difference widening after the Slim. Even EU numbers had the 360 sell a lot more after Slim release, which is why the difference went from 4 million back to 5 million. It's probably the difference will fluctuate with Kinect, Move, game releases and price reductions. MS has good space to reduce 360 price since they've been making money on it for years now.

themyth01

Again, NPD isn't the world PS3 has a big system seller too, GT and a great exclusive lineup for next year (including some japanese system sellers) if anything, the lasts quarter reports showed us that the 360 slime effects weren't that big the possibility is there, don't know if it will happen though, as I don't have a crystal ball

Didn't say it was. NPD is 47% of the world gaming market. Pretty damn relevant. Japan is the smallest of the big three markets. GT has lost relevance to the shooters of today, and pre-orders show it being a shadow of its former self. The biggest thing that gives consoles momentum is price drops and MS hadn't had one in a very long time, so they have that at their disposal, not so easy for Sony to do that though.

Another Lem underestimating the power of GT. Trust me man racers are still VERY relevant. Especially in Europe.

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Giancar"] Again, NPD isn't the world PS3 has a big system seller too, GT and a great exclusive lineup for next year (including some japanese system sellers) if anything, the lasts quarter reports showed us that the 360 slime effects weren't that big the possibility is there, don't know if it will happen though, as I don't have a crystal ballbrennan7777

Didn't say it was. NPD is 47% of the world gaming market. Pretty damn relevant. Japan is the smallest of the big three markets. GT has lost relevance to the shooters of today, and pre-orders show it being a shadow of its former self. The biggest thing that gives consoles momentum is price drops and MS hadn't had one in a very long time, so they have that at their disposal, not so easy for Sony to do that though.

Another Lem underestimating the power of GT. Trust me man racers are still VERY relevant. Especially in Europe.

Another COW overestimating the power of GT. How useless some statements are heh.
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[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

You're confused about the difference between shipped and sold. MS has sold about 5 million more 360s than PS3s and Sony has shipped about 3 million less PS3s than 360s. This is expected since MS had to clean inventory for the Slim release.

The number on the FS are those that are shipped.

themyth01

We all know that the fiscal reports all report shipped figures. You wanna clue us in where you got that 5 million more 360s sold figure? The slim release was at the beginning of this quarter. Are you inferring MS never got around to stocking the stores back up?

Unless you have some actual figures, let's not put guesswork into this. You'll never find more accurate or more comparable figures than the fiscal reports. Nothing else is as comprehensive, and everything else seems to involve a lot of postulating.

NPD, Media Create and UK charts == VGchartz. Where are your numbers coming from?

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#47 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="santoron"]

We all know that the fiscal reports all report shipped figures. You wanna clue us in where you got that 5 million more 360s sold figure? The slim release was at the beginning of this quarter. Are you inferring MS never got around to stocking the stores back up?

Unless you have some actual figures, let's not put guesswork into this. You'll never find more accurate or more comparable figures than the fiscal reports. Nothing else is as comprehensive, and everything else seems to involve a lot of postulating.

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NPD, Media Create and UK charts == VGchartz. Where are your numbers coming from?

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You need a link to VGchartz?
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#48 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] With the current difference you'll have to wait a few years for your fun. Probably around the time of a PS4 release, how funny is that. themyth01

ehhh look how much have sold the ps3 more than the 360 for the last year. don't know if trends will continue though

Look at NPD for this entire year. PS3 hasn't outsold the 360 a single month, with the difference widening after the Slim. Even EU numbers had the 360 sell a lot more after Slim release, which is why the difference went from 4 million back to 5 million. It's probably the difference will fluctuate with Kinect, Move, game releases and price reductions. MS has good space to reduce 360 price since they've been making money on it for years now.

The DC is funny with this one. So you make up your own numbers and ignore official ones. This has got to be one of the most delusional days in system wars. You guys are too much

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Didn't say it was. NPD is 47% of the world gaming market. Pretty damn relevant. Japan is the smallest of the big three markets. GT has lost relevance to the shooters of today, and pre-orders show it being a shadow of its former self. The biggest thing that gives consoles momentum is price drops and MS hadn't had one in a very long time, so they have that at their disposal, not so easy for Sony to do that though. themyth01
So by the last quarter reports Sony did extraordinary in the 53% of the world :? now, GT lost relevance, see Prologue sales please and you are saying that the difference is 5 millions not 3? despite seeing official numbers ok then, carry on
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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Didn't say it was. NPD is 47% of the world gaming market. Pretty damn relevant. Japan is the smallest of the big three markets. GT has lost relevance to the shooters of today, and pre-orders show it being a shadow of its former self. The biggest thing that gives consoles momentum is price drops and MS hadn't had one in a very long time, so they have that at their disposal, not so easy for Sony to do that though. themyth01

Another Lem underestimating the power of GT. Trust me man racers are still VERY relevant. Especially in Europe.

Another COW overestimating the power of GT. How useless some statements are heh.

I'm not a cow. You are DCing. GT is huge. I suppose whether you choose to believe that or not is out of my control