OK Lets Be Real. Xbox Has Historically Been Snubbed For GotY

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#51  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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Everyone doesn't always win a prize.. doesn't necessarily mean you were snubbed.

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#52 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: I’m sure that there are some here who certainly feel that way. 😅

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#53 R4gn4r0k
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At one point Uncharted 4 was nominated for GOTY.

Uncharted 4 isn't a better video game than Starfield, it just has higher production values.

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#54 Litchie
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I don't believe this conspiracy, sorry.

Glad Starfield didn't get nominated. Hi-Fi Rush should've got more attention, though.

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#55 Litchie
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@uitravioience said:

@Pedro: like a month ago I think. It scored a 7.

Was hyped as the next Skyrim. I believe it has currently sold ~10 million copies vs. Skyrim that have sold ~60 million. Starfield has probably sold more now than Skyrim had at this point. The game is not like Skyrim as hyped, it's soulless.

I'd say the game flopped, score wise and lore wise. It's selling really well, though. Doubt MS and Bethesda thinks it's a flop.

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#56 Mozelleple112
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@Chutebox: Exactly. Starfield isn't even top 50 highest rated game of 2023 (go ahead and check metacritic if you don't believe me)

It got a 7 from the two largest video game reviewers and a 7.5 from the biggest PC reviewer.

I knew this years ago it wouldn't be nominated (Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 told me everything I needed to know) but it was pretty mcuh confirmed the first day of its reviews that it wasn't getting nominated.

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#57  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@ghostofgolden: or... ORRR maybe Xbox just doesn't have any good exclusives? The last time Microsoft made anything close to a GOTY candidate was either Gears 3 or Halo Reach back in 2010-11.

We're talking 12-13 years ago. And the reason why those two didn't win squat isn't because of some tin foil hat propaganda, its because there were way better games those years (Red Dead Redemption, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mass Effect 2, Dark Souls, Arkham City, TES V: Skyrim, Portal 2, etc)

Starfield isn't a particularly great game - its natural that it was omitted from the nominees. There are many more deserving games that could have been nominated (FF16, Lies of P, Armoured Core VI etc) but they did not make top 6.

Sony at one point made 4 out of the last 5 GOTY winners. Microsoft's one and only "consensus" GOTY was in 2001 - 22 years ago. then again I am not sure if it won more GOTYs than GTA 3. It was certainly top 3 and won many GOTY awards from major sites.

Sony, FromSoft and Nintendo win GOTY every single year, not because they are called Sony, FromSoft and Nintendo but because they make the best games, every single year. (this year its BG3 edging Nintendo's Zelda:TOTK)

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@R4gn4r0k: Oh, Uncharted 4 is a *much* better game than Starfield, that's for sure.

its 10/10 on Gamespot is ridiculous though and its no where near Naughty Dog's top 3 best games:

  1. TLOU
  2. TLOU2
  3. Uncharted 2

but it was easily the second best game of 2016, after Dark Souls 3

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#59 SecretPolice  Online
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The industry as a whole hated the idea of a US based software dev especially one as yuuuge as MS getting in the HW gaming biz and it has shown ever since 2001.

Reviews, awards, news narratives, couldn't be mooaar Fake.

They're as Disingenuous as can be and I Hate that so much in any situation but luckily this is just about VG's.

Just think for a minute if that was the same for the most important issues in the world of gov. politics. ;o

Ohhhh wait, yeah, they can all Fake off!! lol :P

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#60 R4gn4r0k
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Oh, Uncharted 4 is a *much* better game than Starfield, that's for sure.

its 10/10 on Gamespot is ridiculous though and its no where near Naughty Dog's top 3 best games:

  1. TLOU
  2. TLOU2
  3. Uncharted 2

but it was easily the second best game of 2016, after Dark Souls 3

Uncharted is so on a rails that it makes Starfield look like an immersive sim.

Uncharted 4 really feels like all the talent has gone (Amy Henning) and the only good thing that came from that game is Lost Legacy.

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#61 dabear
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@ghostofgolden: I agree. But, aren't these award nominations made by gaming journalists?

If that's the case, isn't this more "the Gaming Press dislikes Xbox".

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#62 templecow90999
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RE2 Remake got a bunch of nominations including GOTY and didn't win anything. I can see the same happening with RE4

Starfield could have gotten a bunch of nominations but probably wouldn't have won anything either. Does it make a difference?

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@robertos said:

Starfield isn't that good why would it be nominated for GOTY?

Because it's super good. That's why.

@hardwenzen said:

Lets be real here, Xbox hasn't made anything worthwile since 2009-2010 when they went full waggle mode with the Kinect. That is the year we lost the Xbox brand, and they've never recovered. What a disaster.

I finally figured you out. You post exactly opposite of what you should be posting.

@uitravioience said:

@Pedro: like a month ago I think. It scored a 7.

Spider-Man 2 flopped a month ago as well. It scored an 8.

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@Mozelleple112 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Oh, Uncharted 4 is a *much* better game than Starfield, that's for sure.

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#65  Edited By Vaasman
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GotY award regularly doesn't go to company that can't produce GotY candidate. News at 11.

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#66  Edited By mrbojangles25
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GOTY is such a joke, and so are you guys for making all these threads. I mean one or two threads, sure, but all this? Holy shitballs, dial it down, folks.

Anyway, time for me to go spend my 700th hour in a great-selling indie game none of you have heard of on my 10,000-dollar PC that I only play 2D games on. Y'all a bunch of posers, you need to be hipster like me to be true gamer status.

@Pedro said:

You all take thus shit seriously. Now we a touting conspiracy all because Starfield. lol

Yeah but bro they spent 70 bazillion dollars for Starfield!!!!!!!!!

I am concerned! Are you concerned? Cuz I am. Concerned, that is.

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#67 Pedro  Online
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@mrbojangles25 said:

GOTY is such a joke, and so are you guys for making all these threads. I mean one or two threads, sure, but all this? Holy shitballs, dial it down, folks.

Anyway, time for me to go spend my 700th hour in a great-selling indie game none of you have touched.

@Pedro said:

You all take thus shit seriously. Now we a touting conspiracy all because Starfield. lol

Yeah but bro they spent 70 bazillion dollars for Starfield!!!!!!!!!

I am concerned! Are you concerned? Cuz I am. Concerned, that is.

I didn't realize I was concerned until you came along. 😢

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#68 stacweed11
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I'm way behind on my xbox catalog. I'm still working on gears 4. I got gears 5 and halo infinite on deck. To be honest though, I don't think Xbox has been snubbed. Lots of their games are "fine" to good. Microsoft knew that and now buy publishers to fill though void of their lackluster efforts. They'll have at least one nomination next year.

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#69 LuxuryHeart
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The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

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@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

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#71 blamix
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Make great quality games and maybe you will be invited to TGA next time

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#72 Willy105
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Microsoft hasn't been taking gaming seriously until very recently, it will take time.

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@kvallyx said:

Great scores, great sales and great player base numbers.

Im still playing it but now were in hell its even close game of the year. it feels 20 years old. nothing screams new. game of the year in not going to load screen after load screen. just saying.

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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

Great scores, great sales and great player base numbers.

Im still playing it but now were in hell its even close game of the year. it feels 20 years old. nothing screams new. game of the year in not going to load screen after load screen. just saying.

You haven't played it, that's why.

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@gifford38 said:

Im still playing it but now were in hell its even close game of the year. it feels 20 years old. nothing screams new. game of the year in not going to load screen after load screen. just saying.

What nomination for GOTY screams new?

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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

Great scores, great sales and great player base numbers.

Im still playing it but now were in hell its even close game of the year. it feels 20 years old. nothing screams new. game of the year in not going to load screen after load screen. just saying.

That's a great general, non-specific critique. What seems "old"? Specifics?

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@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

Damn,how can such a buggy game score as high as an 8 on all the major outlets ?

and clowns call todd howards games buggy

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^^^^

Fake news, Fake... Eh, you know the rest. :P

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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

Holy shit, that's embarrassing as **** lol.

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#81  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Deathloop was nominated for GOTY at TGA 2021.

Granted, it was an underwhelming year.

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#82 Mozelleple112
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@kvallyx:

Most GOTY wins of 2016 > not even nominated for GOTY 2023

93 metacritic > 83 metacritic

10/10 GS > 7/10 GS

Uncharted 4 is objectively a vastly superior game.

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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

lmao why are you posting the vid i posted? You can't just use my content to defend the ugliness of Fable.

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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

lmao why are you posting the vid i posted? You can't just use my content to defend the ugliness of Fable.

I didn't realize the protagonist had to be "beautiful" for a game to be good.

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#85 dabear
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Starfield is awesome and should have gotten nominated. That is a fact. IDK if it should have won, bilut it deserved a nomination.

It was review bombed by Sony Pony "gaming journalists".

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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@luxuryheart said:

The thing is... Xbox ain't really been putting out a lot of must have exclusives. Though they have potential with Fable. Fable was a good series and with some love, can be a great game.

How naive for you to think that.

And this is so much better.

lmao why are you posting the vid i posted? You can't just use my content to defend the ugliness of Fable.

I didn't realize the protagonist had to be "beautiful" for a game to be good.

There's a difference between beautiful, normal and a god damn creature. Not to mention that its a video game, why the hell create a "beautful"/cool ass looking character? Do you think people enjoy dressing their characters that look like shit, and all you want is to put a helmet on top of that ugly face?

@dabear said:

Starfield is awesome and should have gotten nominated. That is a fact. IDK if it should have won, bilut it deserved a nomination.

It was review bombed by Sony Pony "gaming journalists".

Its not a good game. Its a 6/10 title that deserves a 7/10 on a good day. But if you're experienced with Bethesda titles, and expected improvements on their 20+ years old formula, i think this game is more of a 5/10 than anything else.

It doesn't deserve anything else but to remind Badthesda how far they've fallen.

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#87 dabear
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@hardwenzen: Again, YOU NEVER PLAYED IT.

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#88  Edited By loudheadphones
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Still crying i see.

You get what you fuc**** deserve.gif

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@loudheadphones said:

Still crying i see.

You get what you fuc**** deserve.gif

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#90 UItravioIence
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@dabear: Starfield is a flop. The whole Starfield reddit page agrees that it is not GOTY worthy.

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#91 Randy_Lahey
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Wahhh wahhhh poor trillion dollar corporation with a talentless video game sector. Get gud MS you’ve only been at this for 22 years. Losers

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#92 Mozelleple112
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@blamix: Exactly. Starfield is barely in the top 60 highest rated game on metacritic of 2023. You could actually argue that if the TGA decided to allow 50+ nominations for the GOTY, Starfield still wouldn't be nominated.

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#93 KvallyX
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

lmao why are you posting the vid i posted? You can't just use my content to defend the ugliness of Fable.

I didn't realize the protagonist had to be "beautiful" for a game to be good.

True^ Look how ugly Spider-Man is. Look how ugly Selene Vassos is. Look how ugly Kratos and his son are.

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#94 KvallyX
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@kvallyx:

Most GOTY wins of 2016 > not even nominated for GOTY 2023

93 metacritic > 83 metacritic

10/10 GS > 7/10 GS

Uncharted 4 is objectively a vastly superior game.

So the PS having no games has triggered you into looking back 7 years to find a good game? 😂

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@uitravioience said:

@dabear: Starfield is a flop. The whole Starfield reddit page agrees that it is not GOTY worthy.

I should check out that page for the lol's