Nintendo is obsolete

I'll tell you why, they have no more original ideas, instead recycling old ones like Super Mario in the Middle East 3 and Zelda: More boomerangs. They were the cutting edge of gaming in the late 80's-90s but now they thrive of millions of fanboys who grew up with these games as well as people who think the Wii is an effective excersise tool when jogging or swimming is more effective and doesn't cost hundreds of dollars. Sure there are some worthwhile games (as my dp will attest)but Nintendo mostly vomits the same, overused formula time and time again.

Ok now I'm ready to be abused by fanboys.

There's really no comedic value to this joke is there? :(

Bu... bu.. but Mario in the Middle East 3 is going to rock!!

which is why Playstation Move is a blatant copy/paste.

and Project Natal not being much different. other than eliminating a controller.

yeah, Zelda/Mario/Metroid are used a lot, but they change across a number of genres(Mario) or have a drastic change in general to keep the games fresh. And as I said above, they clearly have the better ideas in terms of hardware if the weakest console is getting me-too'ed by the more powerful PS3/360 consoles.

And in other news, Microsoft and Sony are now releasing their own version of motion technologyLed_poison

Which is more innovative then the Wii.

Will have better tracking than the Wii.

Will have better graphics than the Wii.

Will also be included in hardcore games (well atleast for Sony).

Bu... bu.. but Mario in the Middle East 3 is going to rock!!

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Bu... bu.. but Mario in the Middle East 3 is going to rock!!

gamefan67

Mario is, of course, hallucinating that there's a flying koopa in front of him because the sun it's so hot. I mean just look at that sun!

Mario in the Middle East 3 is the best idea ever!

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]And in other news, Microsoft and Sony are now releasing their own version of motion technologySonyFan117

Which is more innovative then the Wii.

Will have better tracking than the Wii.

Will have better graphics than the Wii.

Will also be included in hardcore games (well atleast for Sony).

innovative? too far of a stretch there.

tracking, right now, no(Move is at 1.33 ms lag, Natal is around the same). Finished product before you can have a fact. Before I go too far, MotionPlus is 1:1 response time, so, if correct, cannont be 'beaten' there at all.

yes, but Wii HAS proven graphics don't make the games. but since you are strictly on graphics, yeah, I suppose

Mario/Zelda/Metroid are considered hardcore:?

Who the hell wants to work out while playing a game!?

SonyFan117

For starters, you have the 22.56 million people who bought Wii Fit.

Mario is, of course, hallucinating that there's a flying koopa in front of him because the sun it's so hot. I mean just look at that sun!

Mario in the Middle East 3 is the best idea ever!

treedoor

Wow do you see those textures! And those character models are just so exquisite. That physics engine must be something else if it is able to handle something as big as the sun going up and down across the screen.

Im not even going to mention all of the enemies on-screen. Console graphics king confirmed!

Will also be included in hardcore games (well atleast for Sony).

SonyFan117

Recipe for instant hardcoredom:

1) Copy Wii Boxing's core design.

2) Get rid of Miis. Characters must look like douche... I mean, macho men.

3) Make it all brown and gray. Primary colors are teh kiddie.

4) ???

5) PROFIT!!!

...

Actually, scratch that "brown" part. Gray should suffice.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Mario is, of course, hallucinating that there's a flying koopa in front of him because the sun it's so hot. I mean just look at that sun!

Mario in the Middle East 3 is the best idea ever!

gamefan67

Wow do you see those textures! And those character models are just so exquisite. That physics engine must be something else if it is able to handle something as big as the sun going up and down across the screen.

Im not even going to mention all of the enemies on-screen. Console graphics king confirmed!

That's the Wii for ya 8)

If Mario was in the Middle East and had access to a semi-automatic weapon then I might change my opinion about Nintendo, but I'm tired of all the jump on mushroom people gameplay. And the less said about Zelda the happier I am. Because it'sa stupidhead.

The sun is the greatest of all of the enemies found in the Super Mario Bros. universe. I would LOVE to see him make an appearance in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :lol:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

but now they thrive of millions of fanboys who grew up with these games

pengo93

Nintendo just released some vids of Galaxy 2, which is full of creativity.

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :LOL:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

moistsandwich

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

The sun is the greatest of all of the enemies found in the Super Mario Bros. universe. I would LOVE to see him make an appearance in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

Sky-

Umm... you mean this sun?

[QUOTE="Sky-"]

The sun is the greatest of all of the enemies found in the Super Mario Bros. universe. I would LOVE to see him make an appearance in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

moistsandwich

Umm... you mean this sun?

Indeed I do. He scared the crap out of me as a kid.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

but now they thrive of millions of fanboys who grew up with these games

OreoMilkshake

When those fanboys grow out of video games, who will Nintendo feed off?

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :LOL:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

pengo93

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

Blueray is the only innovation sony has made all gen.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :LOL:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

AmayaPapaya

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

Blueray is the only innovation sony has made all gen.

And orginal games, and improved hardware, and awesomeness. Let's not forget X-box has some sort of orginality too.

And yet they still are manufacturing hardware and creating games. They may not be forward-thinking when it comes to game design, but they do what is comfortable for them. Its our fault we hold them to such high standards.

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :LOL:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

pengo93

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

pengo93

Blueray is the only innovation sony has made all gen.

And orginal games, and improved hardware, and awesomeness. Let's not forget X-box has some sort of orginality too.

Improved hardware, and awesome-ness aren't innovations. And Original Games are on every system. Sony isn't special for making some too.

I'll tell you why, they have no more original ideas, instead recycling old ones like Super Mario in the Middle East 3 and Zelda: More boomerangs. They were the cutting edge of gaming in the late 80's-90s but now they thrive of millions of fanboys who grew up with these games as well as people who think the Wii is an effective excersise tool when jogging or swimming is more effective and doesn't cost hundreds of dollars. Sure there are some worthwhile games (as my dp will attest)but Nintendo mostly vomits the same, overused formula time and time again.

Ok now I'm ready to be abused by fanboys.

pengo93

they're still better than most out there at making good gameplay tho

i guess it's an unnecessary art nowadays, gameplay and all that :P

ya know how Natal is supposed to be the future of gaming without controllers?

hell, won't be so far away that we'll finally achieve gaming without gameplay, gonna be awesome!

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="Sky-"]

The sun is the greatest of all of the enemies found in the Super Mario Bros. universe. I would LOVE to see him make an appearance in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

Sky-

Umm... you mean this sun?

Indeed I do. He scared the crap out of me as a kid.

weird... I just checked the 1st page... I didn't know someone actually posted the same pic.

Ahhh.... I love MARIO... best platformers of all time, no contest. I'm not sure how many times I played through SMB and SMB3.

I even love SMB2... a great game, imo.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

LOL... *looks at TC's sig*.... LOLLERCOPTERBBQSAWSE!11!1111!!!! :LOL:

A Sony fanboy talking about the lack of innovation from Nintendo... this is the funniest... or saddest topic of the month.

moistsandwich

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

Remeber Eye-toy? Sony consoles were the first to use discs instead of cartridges, they had games like Croc, Abe's Oddysee, Resident Evil (I'm not sure who owns it now though).

i didnt play games in the eighties and didnt really start till the late 90's and i quite enjoy nintendo. im guessing they're not quite obsolete.

I agree.

They need to take a step out of the 80's and step into the present day gaming world.

People want new and creative ip's from nintendo, but for some reason the idiots that work for

nintendo dont understand that and instead we have wii fitness games...WII FITNESS! Who the

hell wants to work out while playing a game!?

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]And in other news, Microsoft and Sony are now releasing their own version of motion technologySonyFan117

Which is more innovative then the Wii.

Will have better tracking than the Wii.

Will have better graphics than the Wii.

Will also be included in hardcore games (well atleast for Sony).

Will have more lag

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

pengo93

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

Remeber Eye-toy? Sont consoles were the first to use discs instead of cartridges, they had games like Croc, Abe's Oddysee, Resident Evil (I'm not sure who owns it now though).

I believe the Sega 32x came first, 1994. and the Mega-CD, 1991

as a stand-alone, the PS1 was the first to use disc without an add-on, but there was previous optionality. I think.

cartridges weren't necessarily inferior btw.

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

pengo93

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

Remeber Eye-toy? Sony consoles were the first to use discs instead of cartridges, they had games like Croc, Abe's Oddysee, Resident Evil (I'm not sure who owns it now though).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obsolete
no longer in general use; fallen into disuse: an obsolete expression.

Thanks for the laugh though.

TC im going to be honest here. I feel that all you have proven here is that majority of American gamers have some sort of blood lust and nothing more. your rly not helping that image improve. is it that hard for you to play at least one game this gen without, blood guts or guns? if it is, then you have an issue as well as many other people here.

I'm not starting up a Nintendo v Sony post, it's more a where did Nintendo go wrong/ why are other gaming comapanies so far ahead in terms of innovation. Sure they have the Wii and DS but they don't improve upon them significantly. Microsoft and Sony both bring out new hardware while Nintendo doesn't change.

[QUOTE="SonyFan117"]

Who the hell wants to work out while playing a game!?

For starters, you have the 22.56 million people who bought Wii Fit.

I'm not starting up a Nintendo v Sony post, it's more a where did Nintendo go wrong/ why are other gaming comapanies so far ahead in terms of innovation. Sure they have the Wii and DS but they don't improve upon them significantly. Microsoft and Sony both bring out new hardware while Nintendo doesn't change.

pengo93

K, show me the new hardware that sony and microsoft have released?

Battalion Wars
Eternal Darkness
Geist
Pikmin
Endless Ocean
XenoBlade

Sure Nintendo focuses a great deal on their core IPs. But only because of the simple fact that these tend to sell the best!

TC im going to be honest here. I feel that all you have proven here is that majority of American gamers have some sort of blood lust and nothing more. your rly not helping that image improve. is it that hard for you to play at least one game this gen without, blood guts or guns? if it is, then you have an issue as well as many other people here.

painguy1

Well considering the Wii is in the lead, I would say that most Americans are not violence crazy fools....:P

and actually.

MS takes motion control first.

not on console though.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

Scythes777

Remeber Eye-toy? Sony consoles were the first to use discs instead of cartridges, they had games like Croc, Abe's Oddysee, Resident Evil (I'm not sure who owns it now though).

words are too complicated, pictures will do nicely:

first use of cd's for console gaming (1991):

first standalone cd console (1993):

first motion controls on a console (NES):

it's so bad 8)

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

Sony tries new things, they might not always be great but every now and then a glistening gem emerges from the other half baked ideas. Nintendo is all about repetition.

pengo93

Okay... I'll play along... please give me a list of firsts that Sony ushered into the console space. I'm waiting.

Remeber Eye-toy? Sony consoles were the first to use discs instead of cartridges, they had games like Croc, Abe's Oddysee, Resident Evil (I'm not sure who owns it now though).

You need to do your homework... Sony was NOT the 1st to use compact discs.

Not sure if any system b4 the PS2 had a "eyetoy" equivalent though.... I know there was a similar device in production for the Dreamcast.

I'm not starting up a Nintendo v Sony post, it's more a where did Nintendo go wrong/ why are other gaming comapanies so far ahead in terms of innovation. Sure they have the Wii and DS but they don't improve upon them significantly. Microsoft and Sony both bring out new hardware while Nintendo doesn't change.

pengo93

well. let them repeat this offense twice before judging them.

The Wii was the first time they were the most inferior console in terms of power. The DS has variations, because it isn't a new generation yet.