Nintendo DS 2 Announced?!?!?!?!?

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Massive rumour leaks started earlier this afternoon after bsm posted an article claiming that the nVidia Tegra chip would power the next gen Nintendo DS, thus placing it above the original Xbox both graphically and specs wise.

Since then, there've been more leaks, and the information that I could gather states:

  1. Backwards compatible with the existing DS models (no GBA slot)
  2. Multimedia capability
  3. Bluetooth?
  4. Will be announced in late 2010... possibly at the Tokyo Game Show or Nintendo SpaceWorld
  5. Early 2011 release worldwide

If this is indeed true, then Apple and Sony can really kiss their market shares goodbye. In particular, Sony, which has fumbled into a market disaster with the PSP Go, can very well expect its market share to reduce, and drastically.

Think about it guys... DS quality games with Xbox quality graphics... are you on board???

A couple of links, for you source hungry people:

GoNintendo

Silconerra

BSN

If this isn't enough, you can just google it, you'll find thousands of links.

So what do you guys think? Real or fake? And if it's real, then how good or bad will it be? Sound off!

EDIT: FOund this mockup:

DS2

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#2 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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It's only a rumor at this point. The only thing we can do is wait.
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#3 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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But it'll be kicka$$ if its true, wouldnt you say?
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#4 CDUB316
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same specs as the first xbox? well i can totally see some awesome zelda games and metroid games with that power....maybe launch it with super mario sunshine DS (or whatever it's called)

maybe we can get a TRUE sequel to the WW sine it'll have more power now....not what PH was, it was a good game, just not anything like WW

i hope it's true

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#5 Stats_
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I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

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I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

Stats_

lol...sprites are what games all started with...what's wrong with sprites?

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#7 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

The point is, I don't care a rat's fart what a game looks like as long as it plays well. Casi in point: Pokemon Blue (awesome game, black and white and sprite based)
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I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

Stats_

What the? Sprites are beautiful man.

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#9 Silenthps
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wouldn't that make it about as powerful as the Wii? o.O
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If Nintendo's next handheld is more powerful than the Xbox, that could only mean good things for their next system.

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#11 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

CDUB316

lol...sprites are what games all started with...what's wrong with sprites?

They're poorly designed, lack animiation and expression, and just reak of weak hardware.

The only game i can stomach that is spirte based is Disgaea.

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wouldn't that make it about as powerful as the Wii? o.OSilenthps
Not really, since the Wii is like 10X more powerful than the original Xbox? Not sure, but I think I read that somewhere.
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#13 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]wouldn't that make it about as powerful as the Wii? o.Ocharizard1605
Not really, since the Wii is like 10X more powerful than the original Xbox? Not sure, but I think I read that somewhere.

The proof is in the pudding. The wii very rarely beats the best of what the last gen Xbox had to offer.

I'd say if anything, it's about 0.5 more powerful.

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#14 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not too fond if DS games. They're too often sprite based, and sprites annoy me.

Although, i'd love to play a somewhat "Next Gen" Pokemon.

Stats_

lol...sprites are what games all started with...what's wrong with sprites?

They're poorly designed, lack animiation and expression, and just reak of weak hardware.

The only game i can stomach that is spirte based is Disgaea.

poorly designed?

ok you OBVIOUSLY started gaming in the 3D ages

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]wouldn't that make it about as powerful as the Wii? o.OStats_

Not really, since the Wii is like 10X more powerful than the original Xbox? Not sure, but I think I read that somewhere.

The proof is in the pudding. The wii very rarely beats the best of what the last gen Xbox had to offer.

I'd say if anything, it's about 0.5 more powerful.

I don't think the Xbox would have been able to handle stuff like Brawl or Corruption... but maybe I'm wrong.
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#16 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

lol...sprites are what games all started with...what's wrong with sprites?

CDUB316

They're poorly designed, lack animiation and expression, and just reak of weak hardware.

The only game i can stomach that is spirte based is Disgaea.

poorly designed?

ok you OBVIOUSLY started gaming in the 3D ages

You're wrong, but either way it's irrelevant when i started gaming. The DS simply dose not allow for high quality sprites due to lackluster hardware.

Sprites inherently have little animation. Using the popular pokemon as an example, The pokemon wiggle when they're released, and then wiggle slightly every attack they make.

Poor quality.

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I don't think its coming out any time soon, DS is already doing so well they don't need to make another one
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#18 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Not really, since the Wii is like 10X more powerful than the original Xbox? Not sure, but I think I read that somewhere.charizard1605

The proof is in the pudding. The wii very rarely beats the best of what the last gen Xbox had to offer.

I'd say if anything, it's about 0.5 more powerful.

I don't think the Xbox would have been able to handle stuff like Brawl or Corruption... but maybe I'm wrong.

Look at Conkers bad fur day, and Doom 3. Not to mention Riddick and Halo 2.

Brawl is one of the best looking Wii games, and i think trumpts anythign the Xbox ahs to offer ... but not by much. That's where the 0.5 comes into play.

Whatever the actual difference is, it's not 10x.

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A new DS that's better than the Wii graphically?

thats some crazy talk :lol:

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I don't think its coming out any time soon, DS is already doing so well they don't need to make another onewantamint7
That's just what people said when there were similar rumours for the original DS, back when the GB Micro had just released. And the GBA was so succesful, didnt they just kill it off only to start an all new line of handhelds? [QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

A new DS that's better than the Wii graphically?

thats some crazy talk :lol:

It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

A new DS that's better than the Wii graphically?

thats some crazy talk :lol:

charizard1605

It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

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#22 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] [QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

A new DS that's better than the Wii graphically?

thats some crazy talk :lol:

It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

Dude... really. Check your facts. The Wii is 8-10X more powerful than the original Xbox. That the developers aren't utilising it is a whole different matter. This will at the most be 2X more powerful than the Xbox. Still 1/5th of the Wii.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.charizard1605

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

Dude... really. Check your facts. The Wii is 8-10X more powerful than the original Xbox. That the developers aren't utilising it is a whole different matter. This will at the most be 2X more powerful than the Xbox. Still 1/5th of the Wii.

Point me to this FACT

Id the Wii were in a literal sense 10x more powerful then the xbox crysis would bow to it.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.charizard1605

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

Dude... really. Check your facts. The Wii is 8-10X more powerful than the original Xbox. That the developers aren't utilising it is a whole different matter. This will at the most be 2X more powerful than the Xbox. Still 1/5th of the Wii.

10x more powerful?

please be real, its exactly a GC/PS2, 10x more powerful is PS3/360.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.charizard1605

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

Dude... really. Check your facts. The Wii is 8-10X more powerful than the original Xbox. That the developers aren't utilising it is a whole different matter. This will at the most be 2X more powerful than the Xbox. Still 1/5th of the Wii.

you know that 8-10x more would make it as powerful if not more powerful than the 360 and the PS3 correct?

The xbox was a pent 3 based processor w 800Mhz and a Nvidia Geforce3 spec gpu which was around 2x more powerful than the cube.Also afaik the clock speed of the wii is pegged at around 8-900Mhz so you just got owned in that department.

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wouldn't that make it about as powerful as the Wii? o.OSilenthps
Yeah. That would be pretty funny :D
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Would be sweet, wish MS would make a portable gaming device though.

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As long as it doesn't look like 2 iPhones/iTouch stuck together.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] [QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

A new DS that's better than the Wii graphically?

thats some crazy talk :lol:

HAZE-Unit

It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

:lol: nice joke, im glad you're not being serious otherwise it would be really sad.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.charizard1605

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

Dude... really. Check your facts. The Wii is 8-10X more powerful than the original Xbox. That the developers aren't utilising it is a whole different matter. This will at the most be 2X more powerful than the Xbox. Still 1/5th of the Wii.

I know your joking but i just feel like pointing this out. The Xbox 360 is around 8x more powerful than the original Xbox.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It WON'T be more powerful than the Wii.Silenthps

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

:lol: nice joke, im glad you're not being serious otherwise it would be really sad.

Okami anyone?

Dead Rising says hello.

No Im not joking, Xbox graphically is better than the Wii.

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As long as it doesn't look like 2 iPhones/iTouch stuck together.siLVURcross

Haha exactly what I though, what a horrible mockup.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

How so? if the chip is more powerful than the original xbox?

Even if it is equal to the xbox graphics and spec wise, it will be more powerful than a Wii.

Xbox was the most advanced console last gen and the Wii is a PS2/GC graphics wise.

:lol: nice joke, im glad you're not being serious otherwise it would be really sad.

Okami anyone?

Dead Rising says hello.

No Im not joking, Xbox graphically is better than the Wii.

yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]:lol: nice joke, im glad you're not being serious otherwise it would be really sad. Shinobishyguy

Okami anyone?

Dead Rising says hello.

No Im not joking, Xbox graphically is better than the Wii.

yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:

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enough said.

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This is not an announcement, it's a rumor that they just got the contract to make the GPU for the console. Meaning if true, now would be the time the console would start being designed. Meaning it's going to be years before it's finished, and another year to be announced, and then released.
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Okami anyone?

Dead Rising says hello.

No Im not joking, Xbox graphically is better than the Wii.

HAZE-Unit

yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:

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enough said.

What does that say?

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Okami anyone?

Dead Rising says hello.

No Im not joking, Xbox graphically is better than the Wii.

HAZE-Unit

yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:

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enough said.

I ain't arguing thast the wii is more powerful than the xbox. As far as I'm concerned it's a little bit more powerful than the GC. But games like mario galaxy or monster hunter 3look really awesome. More-so than the examples you used

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Same graphics as the Wii then pretty much. If it's true then holy crap that's awesome, if not then oh well, it'll come out eventually.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:Willy105

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enough said.

What does that say?

What do you think?

which looks better?

Im just saying this is crazy talk if it is true, a handheld from nintendo that performs better than their current gen console.

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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

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enough said.

HAZE-Unit

What does that say?

What do you think?

which looks better?

Im just saying this is crazy talk if it is true, a handheld from nintendo that performs better than their current gen console.

I can't compare the two screens because they have different reference points. They don't have the same framerate and don't have the same artstyIe. And it doesn't sound that crazy to me, having a next-gen handheld stronger than their current gen system. Sega did that all the time. And by the time this new handheld is finished and released, there would already be a new home console from Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yeah because two rushed ports are prime examples of the wii's graphical capabilities :roll:Shinobishyguy

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enough said.

I ain't arguing thast the wii is more powerful than the xbox. As far as I'm concerned it's a little bit more powerful than the GC. But games like mario galaxy or monster hunter 3look really awesome. More-so than the examples you used

SMG looks awesome and so does MH3, Im just saying it is something that I won't believe, how much it would cost them to deliver something better than the Wii specs wise?

For how much they would sell the handheld? $300?

like I said thats crazy talk.

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oh and those metroid and doom screens look on par with eachother TBQH.

metoid has more stuff going on in the backgroundand doom has better lighting.

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That's just what people said when there were similar rumours for the original DS, back when the GB Micro had just released. And the GBA was so succesful, didnt they just kill it off only to start an all new line of handhelds? charizard1605

The DS was already out when the Gameboy micro was released. Maybe you mean the GBA SP?

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

enough said.

HAZE-Unit

I ain't arguing thast the wii is more powerful than the xbox. As far as I'm concerned it's a little bit more powerful than the GC. But games like mario galaxy or monster hunter 3look really awesome. More-so than the examples you used

SMG looks awesome and so does MH3, Im just saying it is something that I won't believe, how much it would cost them to deliver something better than the Wii specs wise?

For how much they would sell the handheld? $300?

like I said thats crazy talk.

The GBA came out at $99 one gen after the SNES had gone, and the N64 was about to be replaced by Gamecube. The reason the DSi is so expensive because it has TWO screens, a camera, an SD card slot, internal storage, and Wi-Fi. There is very little reason that the next handheld would be more $150 when it is supposed to come out after the Wii has been replaced by the new console.

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[QUOTE="Willy105"] What does that say?

Willy105

What do you think?

which looks better?

Im just saying this is crazy talk if it is true, a handheld from nintendo that performs better than their current gen console.

I can't compare the two screens because they have different reference points. They don't have the same framerate and don't have the same artstyIe. And it doesn't sound that crazy to me, having a next-gen handheld stronger than their current gen system. Sega did that all the time. And by the time this new handheld is finished and released, there would already be a new home console from Nintendo.

The Doom 3 image looks better, it is not rocket science to figure it out :?

Nintendo should worry about their next gen console funding rather than spending tons of millions for a handheld like that.

I mean they can't approach next-gen the same as they did this gen.

Their technology should be in the same league as Sony and Microsoft next-gen, even if it is the least advanced system, it should be More powerful than a PS3/360, much more powerful.

The motion controllers will be standards next-gen so they don't have any new trick, making an outdated console again will hurt them alot.

I mean what will they do next? a portable console?

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Here's when somedbody says that Splinter Cell Conviction looks like a 2005 game. Yes, it's on topic.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]I ain't arguing thast the wii is more powerful than the xbox. As far as I'm concerned it's a little bit more powerful than the GC. But games like mario galaxy or monster hunter 3look really awesome. More-so than the examples you used

Willy105

SMG looks awesome and so does MH3, Im just saying it is something that I won't believe, how much it would cost them to deliver something better than the Wii specs wise?

For how much they would sell the handheld? $300?

like I said thats crazy talk.

The GBA came out at $99 one gen after the SNES had gone, and the N64 was about to be replaced by Gamecube. The reason the DSi is so expensive because it has TWO screens, a camera, an SD card slot, internal storage, and Wi-Fi. There is very little reason that the next handheld would be more $150 when it is supposed to come out after the Wii has been replaced by the new console.

Zune HD ( same chip used) = $289.

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Here's when somedbody says that Splinter Cell Conviction looks like a 2005 game. Yes, it's on topic.IronBass

It doesn't look that hot, is that better for you? :P

Anyways, what is wrong about what I said, XBOX graphically is better than the Wii, nothing wrong with that.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Here's when somedbody says that Splinter Cell Conviction looks like a 2005 game. Yes, it's on topic.HAZE-Unit

It doesn't look that hot, is that better for you? :P

Anyways, what is wrong about what I said, XBOX graphically is better than the Wii, nothing wrong with that.

Well, I'm not a graphics expert, so I've no idea. I just wanted to mock you a little because of SCC :P (I love you btw)
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Here's when somedbody says that Splinter Cell Conviction looks like a 2005 game. Yes, it's on topic.IronBass

It doesn't look that hot, is that better for you? :P

Anyways, what is wrong about what I said, XBOX graphically is better than the Wii, nothing wrong with that.

Well, I'm not a graphics expert, so I've no idea. I just wanted to mock you a little because of SCC :P (I love you btw)

I have to find something against you, I should find something :P

( I love you too btw )