Next Nintendo will be soon. Microsoft and Sony will wait

I think it's pretty apparent Nintendo will continue to follow their 5-year console cycle and release their next system in 2011 even if the Wii continues to sell millions. The wii is just way too underpowered. Their next system could be as simple as an upgraded HD version of Wii or a new powerhouse system. I would not be suprised if "Wii" is still in the name. Afterall they kept Nintendo in Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 following the highly successful NES.

Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have WAY TOO MUCH money invested the the current generation. Sony Gaming is obviously still in the RED and I'm not entirely certain Microsoft has gotten out of it either (not sure)? Besides which, their harddware has hardly peaked. Their systems are in their prime and there is really only so much more room for harddware improvement at this time. It would just anger game developers to release new systems that they would have to bulid around again. And their newly announced motion control projects and experimentation with real 3-D gaming is a good hint that they will not only keep a 10-year cycle but might actual wait the nearly 10 years to release new machines.

Just some random thoughts.

I thought this thread was going to be about Pachter, doing what he does best: being wrong.

Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

goblaa

That wouldnt stop Nintendo from making a Wii 1.5 that can co-exist with the original wii

It would have H.D but will no longer play Gamcube games. Would have a built in motion plus with all it's controllers...and a nunchuck with better motion control! That is just what i think! They would try to keep prices down so they might lower the original Wii and make the new Wii 1.5 250$. From what i heard, the wii is overpriced anywase.

Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

goblaa

Wow, that really narrows it down. Now it will definitely be standard length or twice as long. Or possibly somewhere in the middle.

Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

goblaa

Well in terms of profit and production time (this gen) it goes:

1 Ninty

2 Microsoft

3 Sony

So I assume that they would go in that order when pumping out systems but then again I know nothing on who's planning what.

Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

goblaa

NES and Super Nintendo had around 10-year cycles as well. That didn't stop them from releasing new consoles before the cycle was up.

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Reggie last E3 talked about the wii having 5-10 year console life.

jakehouston88

Huh? Whats wrong with having low tech? Does less polygons make a game less fun? I have 35 games for my Wii right now. Thats overshadowed by my 41 360 games or my 46 DS games...or my 1 PS3 game. Oh wait that can't be right. A powerhouse systems gotta be better than a weak POS one. Let me go recount my PS3 games. Nope still 1. Wow I guess having all the power still doesn't make the games more fun to play.

I think it's pretty apparent Nintendo will continue to follow their 5-year console cycle and release their next system in 2011 even if the Wii continues to sell millions. The wii is just way too underpowered. Their next system could be as simple as an upgraded HD version of Wii or a new powerhouse system. I would not be suprised if "Wii" is still in the name. Afterall they kept Nintendo in Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 following the highly successful NES.

Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have WAY TOO MUCH money invested the the current generation. Sony Gaming is obviously still in the RED and I'm not entirely certain Microsoft has gotten out of it either (not sure)? Besides which, their harddware has hardly peaked. Their systems are in their prime and there is really only so much more room for harddware improvement at this time. It would just anger game developers to release new systems that they would have to bulid around again. And their newly announced motion control projects and experimentation with real 3-D gaming is a good hint that they will not only keep a 10-year cycle but might actual wait the nearly 10 years to release new machines.

Just some random thoughts.

DumbDubya

That's not how business works. If anything Sony/MS will come out with a new console first. Nintendo will just milk the living crap out of the wii till it can't make anymore out of it, and then release a new console.

[QUOTE="muay_thai_demon"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Most recently, MS said that the 360 was about halfway through its lifecycle. That would put the next Xbox in 2013.HuusAsking

They definetly said 7 years was the target, sometime last year (so that backs up their half way through thr gen comment). I said MS will be first in Q4 2012, with Nintendo and Sony in 2013.

[QUOTE="muay_thai_demon"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Most recently, MS said that the 360 was about halfway through its lifecycle. That would put the next Xbox in 2013.HuusAsking

If there was a new console coming it 2011, we'd have already heard about it. There is no console coming in 2011. Hell, the way devs are getting with trailers and teasers, if there was gonna be a new xbox in 2013, we'd have already heard about it.

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

I think it's pretty apparent Nintendo will continue to follow their 5-year console cycle and release their next system in 2011 even if the Wii continues to sell millions. The wii is just way too underpowered. Their next system could be as simple as an upgraded HD version of Wii or a new powerhouse system. I would not be suprised if "Wii" is still in the name. Afterall they kept Nintendo in Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 following the highly successful NES.

Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have WAY TOO MUCH money invested the the current generation. Sony Gaming is obviously still in the RED and I'm not entirely certain Microsoft has gotten out of it either (not sure)? Besides which, their harddware has hardly peaked. Their systems are in their prime and there is really only so much more room for harddware improvement at this time. It would just anger game developers to release new systems that they would have to bulid around again. And their newly announced motion control projects and experimentation with real 3-D gaming is a good hint that they will not only keep a 10-year cycle but might actual wait the nearly 10 years to release new machines.

Just some random thoughts.

shakmaster13

That's not how business works. If anything Sony/MS will come out with a new console first. Nintendo will just milk the living crap out of the wii till it can't make anymore out of it, and then release a new console.

I know how business works and I'm still sticking to the same timeline.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

I think it's pretty apparent Nintendo will continue to follow their 5-year console cycle and release their next system in 2011 even if the Wii continues to sell millions. The wii is just way too underpowered. Their next system could be as simple as an upgraded HD version of Wii or a new powerhouse system. I would not be suprised if "Wii" is still in the name. Afterall they kept Nintendo in Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 following the highly successful NES.

Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have WAY TOO MUCH money invested the the current generation. Sony Gaming is obviously still in the RED and I'm not entirely certain Microsoft has gotten out of it either (not sure)? Besides which, their harddware has hardly peaked. Their systems are in their prime and there is really only so much more room for harddware improvement at this time. It would just anger game developers to release new systems that they would have to bulid around again. And their newly announced motion control projects and experimentation with real 3-D gaming is a good hint that they will not only keep a 10-year cycle but might actual wait the nearly 10 years to release new machines.

Just some random thoughts.

DumbDubya

That's not how business works. If anything Sony/MS will come out with a new console first. Nintendo will just milk the living crap out of the wii till it can't make anymore out of it, and then release a new console.

I know how business works and I'm still sticking to the same timeline.

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

That's not how business works. If anything Sony/MS will come out with a new console first. Nintendo will just milk the living crap out of the wii till it can't make anymore out of it, and then release a new console.

enygma500

I know how business works and I'm still sticking to the same timeline.

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

I know how business works and I'm still sticking to the same timeline.

DumbDubya

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

They won't come out with a new console as long as the wii keeps selling because they cater to a different audience than Sony and MS. The reason sony didn't just keep the PS2 and moved onto the PS3 is because MS had something better to offer to their market audience.

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

shakmaster13

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

They won't come out with a new console as long as the wii keeps selling because they cater to a different audience than Sony and MS. The reason sony didn't just keep the PS2 and moved onto the PS3 is because MS had something better to offer to their market audience.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

I know how business works and I'm still sticking to the same timeline.

DumbDubya

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

yes, nintendo is worried about selling too many wii's. You sir are a well educated man....

If thats your reason for Nintendo releasing first then that will not happen. Power means absoloutely nothing to Nintendo (and non-gamers). Casuals just dont care about graphics (im not talking about caring about good graphics but not telling if a game has bad graphics) so therefore, Nintendo dont too.

Frankly, i wouldnt be suprised if the next Nintendo console had the exact same power as the GC/Wii but with a new method of play.

With all that said i also think Nintendo will be the first into next gen (or atleast unveil their console), but not for your reason.

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

yes, nintendo is worried about selling too many wii's. You sir are a well educated man....

[QUOTE="DumbDubya"]

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

Obviously you don't if you think ninty would drop the wii even if it's selling millions still. Why do you think M$ turned it's 5 year cycle to a 10 year cycle. Because they need to. Not because they wanted to.

Nintendo will milk the wii till there's no milk left. THAT'S the way the business world works.

enygma500

Uhh...no. Nintendo will continue selling the Wii while launching their next console. They need to freshen the market with a new product so their current product doesn't oversaturate. That's how business works.

yes, nintendo is worried about selling too many wii's. You sir are a well educated man....

I have a Masters Degree so yes I am well educated. What do you have? I'm guessing not much.

You clearly don't understand anything about oversaturation and product refreshes. Go to school.

[QUOTE="muay_thai_demon"]Microsoft stated long ago they plan to update the console in 4-year bursts. If anything, Microsoft will update first, and Sony and Nintendo will wait.SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="muay_thai_demon"]Microsoft stated long ago they plan to update the console in 4-year bursts. If anything, Microsoft will update first, and Sony and Nintendo will wait.furomaster_99