Next Gen CPU's far more important then SSD's. XSX Wins Hands Down!!!

@gifford38: Seriously mate, if you want to answer me and expect me to reply in a sensible manner then please read what I write.

I never suggested an HDD could replace an SSD, my actual words were about "This particular SSD". Graphically it wont be much difference either way, with xsx having possibly better resolution and/or framerates and ps5 having slightly better load times than xsx.

There is nothing that a console that a faster ssd can do that a console with an already fast ssd can do, and you're setting yourself up for a fall if you believe otherwise.

Yes I also heard the ps5 will have 800gb of stream assets. but that has not been confirmed yet by sony.

I also heard it is harder to get those numbers out of the xbox. the ps 5 is easier to develop for. also the tempest chip is said to do more than just audio which is a spu architecture which can crunch numbers really fast and that chip alone is as powerful as a ps3. the fact is sony has not revealed what the tempest chip can be used for other than used for 3d audio but he did say in the deep dive if the developer wants to use it to run other things the can choose to. the fact is sony has been tight lip about the ps5.

series x is powerful put don't act like its going to be two gens ahead of sony. some things the ps5 can do better and the series x does things better than the ps5. just like in every gen console life.

sorry mate I didn't even read what you said. I was quoting I own you 4ever which reminds me of a alt for ghost 4ever not sure if it's the same guy or not lol. what he says wow the ps5 can load the game 2 seconds instead of 4 again saying it only loads the games faster. this is not true when your running a game and how the data comes off the ssd. the data coming off of your ssd can be managed differently if you have twice the speed. i mean the compress data on the series x doesn't even = the amount of the ps5 ssd speed without compressed data.

now picture that ssd when a game is running that has no bottlenecks to hold that speed back. there is no drag in there ssd. fact is that ssd can add data to there gpu twice as fast as the series x. you telling me there will be no affect on how a game is utilized to run a ssd with that much speed?

Yes I also heard the ps5 will have 800gb of stream assets. but that has not been confirmed yet by sony.

I also heard it is harder to get those numbers out of the xbox. the ps 5 is easier to develop for. also the tempest chip is said to do more than just audio which is a spu architecture which can crunch numbers really fast and that chip alone is as powerful as a ps3. the fact is sony has not revealed what the tempest chip can be used for other than used for 3d audio but he did say in the deep dive if the developer wants to use it to run other things the can choose to. the fact is sony has been tight lip about the ps5.

series x is powerful put don't act like its going to be two gens ahead of sony. some things the ps5 can do better and the series x does things better than the ps5. just like in every gen console life.

MS is where game studios go to die.'

Yes! Your theoretical 2 seconds in a absolute perfect scenario would fill the bulk of the PS5 memory. If you believe that games would require 5.5GB or even 2GB or data refreshed in memory every second then you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sony has it's own shutdown studios.

No not gens ahead both systems will be able to run the same games. PS5 will have slightly faster load times and the XSX will have more consistent higher resolutions and graphics effects and more consistent performance.

this goes for both the ps5 and series x. this depends on the developer and what there capable of getting the most out each system. but I heard the series x like the ps3/360 gen it is harder to develop for. so it depends on how these dev's use these tools to the fullest.

Smartshift balances CPU and GPU demands on PS5. XSX can max its CPU and GPU like a gaming PC without Smartshift balance.

no i didn't say that. no the ssd can load up the gpu faster. so if the game (this is just numbers to give an example) say the next 20 min of the game requires say 100gigs the gpu only needs to load 10 min of the game at 50 gigs instead inside the gpu (twice as fast). instead they load 100 gigs of data making a bigger impact scene to scene in the game because only half of that time of in game needs to be loaded in. why we have force slow walking parts in game so the hhd can get that data to the gpu/cpu for the next section of the game.

Firstly, the idea of a game needing to load 100GB of fresh data into memory is absolutely absurd.

But, lets entertain this absurdity for a moment. In your scenario, the game only needs the hard-drive to operate at 85MB/sec to achieve the task in your scenario. Which is not only well within the constraints of the SSD, it is also within the constraints of a HDD.

If were are to allow for 1GB/s of fresh data for your 20 minutes, it would equate to 1.2 TERABYTES of data. That is at 1/5th the speed of the PS5 theoretical max. The point is, the differences between the two systems are going to be negligible because there simply isn't enough data that either drive can store, any game would have and any game would need on a per second basis that would require such a high transfer rate.

i used the 100 gigs as an example. not the actual numbers. meaning the gpu in the ps5 is being fed twice as fast with data as the gpu in the series x. during gameplay as well. no that can change how the data is coming off the ssd during gameplay.

if the ps4 had the half the speed of a hdd than inside xbox you don't think these games will look different in one over the other?

@gifford38:

I don't think the PS5 GPU will increase performance because it is been feed data faster,that ssd is not as fast as ram,and ram would continue to be use to cache data to that GPU,sure you will load data faster into ram which will surely help with pop ups.

But is the same analogy I had for the Xbox one,you could give it the same bandwidth as the PS5,still would not change the fact it's GPU is slow.

I never said it will increase performance of the gpu. but it will change how that gpu is being utilized during game play or when the game is running. everyone on here is saying ssd in the ps5 will only be used to load a game 2 seconds faster than the series x and that is it. does nothing else. the ssd just sits there while the game is being played. this is how there acting. there is more that the ssd is doing when the game is running. if not then lets just stay with the hdd because nothing will change other than loading speeds when using a hdd. the fact is these systems both xbox and ps do not need the next hour of game sitting in the gpu wondering if your going to that location or not. now only say 15 min of game needs to be in the gpu instead leaving the rest to do frame by frame basis.

so having the ssd twice as fast and a component that can uncompressed 9.9 gigs per second is going to change how a game is running than having the same game running on a hdd. we will see this when ps5 only games using the only the ssd to the series x games running on the ssd and the same game running on the hdd on the one x.

this goes for both the ps5 and series x. this depends on the developer and what there capable of getting the most out each system. but I heard the series x like the ps3/360 gen it is harder to develop for. so it depends on how these dev's use these tools to the fullest.