Multiplayer can get just as repetitive as Singleplayer and far more annoying

Why is it that console gamers were perfectly fine with playing single-player games a decade ago but now if a game doesn't have online play it's not worth buying full price? Is this really the message we want to give developers ? Games like GOW3 got me thinking, now it certainly is a great game and as far as single-player experiences go it blows away most FPS and online focused games, can it get repetitive ? Sure but saying online doesn't get repetitive is just plain silly. I can understand the appeal of online games but most often then not you get cheaters, hackers ruining the experience for everyone plus glitches and what-not. Im saying this based on my experience but Im sure mostly everyone has experienced this whilst online gaming. Now I like playing online games such Uncharted 2, talk with friends etc but after a while it does get boring, one thing single-player games will always do better is those moments of 'WOW' for lack of better word. Gamers need to break out of this notion that online makes games far better, it's just not true and as far as Im concerned can get more frustrating/repetitive than games focusing on the single-player.

I understand your point, but for the most part its because in a multiplayer match different things can happen each match and they almost never play out the same way. For singleplayer thats not really exactly true, the same thing happens pretty much every time you play through a singleplayer campaign and thats why people feel like you get more value out of multiplayer.

I understand your point, but for the most part its because in a multiplayer match different things can happen each match and they almost never play out the same way. For singleplayer thats not really exactly true, the same thing happens pretty much every time you play through a singleplayer campaign and thats why people feel like you get more value out of multiplayer.

VendettaRed07

i just dont like online, but since online isnt scripted, you do get more fresh surprisesfunsohng

I think online play gives the illusion that it's not scripted, after a while you will begin doing the same things, same routine and what not and eventually you would get bored, that's if the insulting users and glitches don't get you first. Playing SP sure there is one straight path but it depends on the user how they play it, different weapons, different styles etc. After while anything can get repetitive and online game is not excluded from this.

Basically it sounds like you're trying to compare bad multiplayer design to good single player design. If you compare a similar quality area the multiplayer aspect is going to be more enjoyable.

Cheaters are no where near as prevalent as they use to be.

I'll also mention this when L4D2 came out I tried playing co-op and hated it. Took me like an hour to get to the first safe house of the first chapter. I switched to single player and finished the game in a few hours.

COD never gets boring for me, been playing nonstop since COD4.web966

Tekken never gets boring for me, been playing it since T3! The point is as long as the game is fun it doesn't matter if it delivers as a SP or MP but saying that MP is definitely not the direction console gaming should move towards and definitely not how gaming should be judged.

[QUOTE="web966"]COD never gets boring for me, been playing nonstop since COD4.Swift_Boss_A

Tekken never gets boring for me, been playing it since T3! The point is as long as the game is fun it doesn't matter if it delivers as a SP or MP but saying that MP is definitely not the direction console gaming should move towards and definitely not how gaming should be judged.

I have yet to see one hacker or cheater on BC 2, I've maxed out every class, gotten most awards, am level 31, and It's still as fresh as when I first bought it.

I've played quake live since conception , at least twice a week. and still play bf 2 on occasion.

multiplayer does not get old.

as far as online making things better, it will work or it will not work, to use your GOW 3 argument, of course it wouldn't work there.

i don't understand what you are trying to prove. :?

Basically it sounds like you're trying to compare bad multiplayer design to good single player design. If you compare a similar quality area the multiplayer aspect is going to be more enjoyable.

Cheaters are no where near as prevalent as they use to be.

I'll also mention this when L4D2 came out I tried playing co-op and hated it. Took me like an hour to get to the first safe house of the first chapter. I switched to single player and finished the game in a few hours.

jrhawk42

There is no such thing as a flawless multiplayer game it's just that gamers have accepted flaws in MP but when a game that is SP only and has very few flaws but becomes a big deal. Replay can be done in SP games too in fact I'll argue that SP only games can have just as much replay value as MP focused games.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

I understand your point, but for the most part its because in a multiplayer match different things can happen each match and they almost never play out the same way. For singleplayer thats not really exactly true, the same thing happens pretty much every time you play through a singleplayer campaign and thats why people feel like you get more value out of multiplayer.

Swift_Boss_A

i just dont like online, but since online isnt scripted, you do get more fresh surprisesfunsohng

I think online play gives the illusion that it's not scripted, after a while you will begin doing the same things, same routine and what not and eventually you would get bored, that's if the insulting users and glitches don't get you first. Playing SP sure there is one straight path but it depends on the user how they play it, different weapons, different styles etc. After while anything can get repetitive and online game is not excluded from this.

While it does get repetitive, you have to ask yourself. Which has more replay value. The single player campaign or multiplayer. I get what your trying to say, and while not all games need online multiplayer, some prefer it for the experience they get when playing with friends.

I completely agree which is why I buy and enjoy both single player games and multiplayer games.

i love online gaming like Halo, MW2, Killzone, Uncharted etc. but yeah it does get somewhat boring. The only time I ever play those is if there is no games out, Or i just feel like playing a few online matches, but even with that it usually lasts an hour then im done. And i really agree on that Single Player gives more WOW moments. IDK I dont need online to be happy with gaming, hell i didnt have online until Summer of 2009 and i was doing fine prior.

I completely agree which is why I buy and enjoy both single player games and multiplayer games.

RadecSupreme

Multiplayer games get as repetitive as singleplayer games.

Once you play through the maps and you know every nook and cranny things get stale. Oh by the way you kill someone else and you get killed. Rise wash and repeat. Now you have hackers and people that glitch that will ruin your fun.l

COD MW 2 online. You are playing and get killed, you respwan, get killed, respawn get killed, rinse wash and repeat. You have no control over what happens. I like to have control of games I play, hence why I like single player/coop modes better.

I think people are saying games should be online are the people trying to justify paying for Xbox live.

When I can beat that game in one sitting, or when it's less than 10 hours long. I see no reason to pay full price for it unless it has some other features that holds longevity to it. I will go into a multiplayer game -- company of heroes and COD4 for example -- and experience something new, and unique almost each and every time.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]When I can beat that game in one sitting, or when it's less than 10 hours long. I see no reason to pay full price for it unless it has some other features that holds longevity to it. I will go into a multiplayer game -- company of heroes and COD4 for example -- and experience something new, and unique almost each and every time.67gt500

Exactly. All you do is run around, find a place to hide and shoot anyone that crosses your sights. Pretty soon you get killed and start the process all over again.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]When I can beat that game in one sitting, or when it's less than 10 hours long. I see no reason to pay full price for it unless it has some other features that holds longevity to it. I will go into a multiplayer game -- company of heroes and COD4 for example -- and experience something new, and unique almost each and every time.67gt500

What makes CoD4 matches any less unique than those of any other online game?

People act like multiplayer modes offer something new everytime.

The last few times I played MW 2 online the first time it played as a shooter, the second match it played as an action platformer, the third time it played as a racer, the fourth time it played as a fighter, and the fifth time we all leveled up against each other RPG style. This is what people are trying to make multiplayer modes sound like.

What I listed above would kill a game being repetitive, but no all I did was shoot, get killed, respawn, etc.

All games are repetitive to a point but it is all about what you prefer and I prefer being in complete control in my single player experiences.

I agree. I usually get bored of multiplayer before i get bored of going through a single player campaign multiple times.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="67gt500"] New and unique? In a CoD4 match? Each and every time? Like what?salxis

The experience is not different everytime you play because you kill, get killed, fire off missles, get killed by missles, respawn and do the same thing over and over again.

By that logic I can say you can get a different experience in a single player every time by playing the game differently or creating some challenges for yourself.

People act like multiplayer modes offer something new everytime.

The last few times I played MW 2 online the first time it played as a shooter, the second match it played as an action platformer, the third time it played as a racer, the fourth time it played as a fighter, and the fifth time we all leveled up against each other RPG style. This is what people are trying to make multiplayer modes sound like.

What I listed above would kill a game being repetitive, but no all I did was shoot, get killed, respawn, etc.

All games are repetitive to a point but it is all about what you prefer and I prefer being in complete control in my single player experiences.

Ninten007

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="67gt500"] New and unique? In a CoD4 match? Each and every time? Like what?salxis

[QUOTE="salxis"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Every. Single. Multiplayer. Game. in COD4 is going to give you a different experience.Ninten007

The experience is not different everytime you play because you kill, get killed, fire off missles, get killed by missles, respawn and do the same thing over and over again.

By that logic I can say you can get a different experience in a single player every time by playing the game differently or creating some challenges for yourself.

Yeah TC I see what your saying and I agree. What I'll do is play multiplayer games for a few months then get tired of them, then I'll take a long break and play through my single player backlog. After a few months of single player my trigger finger will start to get itchy so I'll jump into my shooter(s) of choice, and repeat the cycle. I went through a two- three year phase in the mid 00's were I couldn't touch multiplayer games, yes they can get as repetitive as anything else.

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[QUOTE="salxis"] Pretty much, you could be faced with a team of snipers/campers/objective capturers/tubers/knifers etc etc. or a good mix of them. Also, you can change your own play styles. This apply to most decent online MPssalxis

The experience is not different everytime you play because you kill, get killed, fire off missles, get killed by missles, respawn and do the same thing over and over again.

By that logic I can say you can get a different experience in a single player every time by playing the game differently or creating some challenges for yourself.

Except you will most likely never beat GOW 3 on Titan using no upgrades.

The key word is control. I like to be in control of the game and what happens on-screen. I hate running in COD only to be hit by some missle and people abusing rocket launchers. It gets annoying to a point.

I only play sports games, especially basketball and soccer online.

It depends on the game for me. For current day shooters, I think it needs to be there, unless it's something like Bioshock. Resident Evil didn't need multiplayer but I like how they added co-op to Resident Evil 5. Again, not all games need multiplayer, but many devs feel the need to put it there since a lot of people don't buy games unless it has some form of multiplayer. If you're going to add multiplayer to a series or genre that doesn't necessarily need it, do it like Naughty Dog did with Uncharted 2. It's a really fun mode that COMPLIMENTS the single player. NOT REPLACING it. I bought Uncharted 2 juts for the campaign, but the multiplayer lasted me even longer with it. I think that's how it should be done.

Also, quick note: Devs, PLEASE don't let split screen die! Games like uncharted 2 and killzone 2 would be a blast with split screen AND online (like halo 3, resistance 2, etc).

Except you will most likely never beat GOW 3 on Titan using no upgrades.

The key word is control. I like to be in control of the game and what happens on-screen. I hate running in COD only to be hit by some missle and people abusing rocket launchers. It gets annoying to a point.

I only play sports games, especially basketball and soccer online.

Ninten007

I get bored of multiplayer FPS really quickly.

Whereas a good singleplayer, I can play through multiple times. Like the original Operation Flashpoint or Stalker.

I guess gamers like seeing how they compare to each other, that's probably why MP feels less repetitive because you could always do better on the leaderboards. Gameplay wise it's the same thing, you rinse and repeat, try new and repeat and I can honestly see that getting boring, well it has for me. I guess if all SP games had leaderboards we would stop criticising SP only games but I doubt it.Swift_Boss_A

I enjoy SP games alot and hope they never die but read that back to yourself. Do you get more enjoyment out of killing an AI or a real gamer?

I enjoy SP games alot and hope they never die but read that back to yourself. Do get more enjoyment out of killing an AI or a real person?

mtmatt

That really depends on the circumstance. I would rather kill a brilliantly designed AI than I would some kid bunny-hopping and 'nade spamming.

[QUOTE="mtmatt"]

I enjoy SP games alot and hope they never die but read that back to yourself. Do get more enjoyment out of killing an AI or a real person?

organic_machine

That really depends on the circumstance. I would rather kill a brilliantly designed AI than I would some kid bunny-hopping and 'nade spamming.

Why is it that console gamers were perfectly fine with playing single-player games a decade ago

Swift_Boss_A

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[QUOTE="mtmatt"]

I enjoy SP games alot and hope they never die but read that back to yourself. Do get more enjoyment out of killing an AI or a real person?

mtmatt

That really depends on the circumstance. I would rather kill a brilliantly designed AI than I would some kid bunny-hopping and 'nade spamming.

I disagree. I think people consistently go out of their way to ruin the experience as much as possible. I don't have any fun playing with people. I get no satisfaction out of killing other players. I definitely don't suck, I think I'd own plenty of people here at some Quake 3. :P

I'm just not a very competetive person so playing with people is really boring to me.

I'm pretty much in a place where I will never ever buy a multiplayer exclusive FPS ever again. I just don;t have any fun, it's all too boring.

No because in SP you get bored of the AI doing the exact same thing every time where as online everybody has their own tactics (except for MW2 where evrybody camps) :(gamebreakerz__

The way I view it is this:

In a SP mode, you are presented a challenge the way the developers intended.

In MP, people exploit glitches, act cheap, and hack.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]No because in SP you get bored of the AI doing the exact same thing every time where as online everybody has their own tactics (except for MW2 where evrybody camps) :(organic_machine

The way I view it is this:

In a SP mode, you are presented a challenge the way the developers intended.

In MP, people exploit glitches, act cheap, and hack.

I know getting killed every 5 seconds sucks. Maybe you should try MW2. :)mtmatt

Why is it that when anyone hates a given MP FPS, they therefore must just suck at it? It's a silly assumption based on no merit. I know this is hard to comprehend, but I just get bored of multiplayer matches. Even if I am the best on the server. Even if I am the worst on the server. Even if I am somewhere in the middle. I get bored after five minutes.

I undertsand that that's not how anyone else thinks and that the majority of people love the competition. I don't. I'm just not wired like that.