MS will win PR using 4K ULTRA, DOUBLED FRAMERATES next gen for advertising XBOX games.

Will always be sub 30 frame rates, probably 1080p/60 frame rates optional. Both pathetic really.

I don't care too much about frame rates, which is one of the reasons why I play on consoles. A stable 30 fps works fine for me in most genres. It's kind of ironic, cos back in the 16-bit days I was really concerned about frame rates, and it was a big plus if a game was 50fps or 60fps.

Got a 4K tv, would be nice if the games is in 4K too.

Power is nothing without the games.

The next x-box could be 16bit for all I care. Just have something that I actually want to play and I'm in. (sounds simple really, but MS REALLY messed up with XBONE)

There truly is such a thing as voter fatigue, and people got tired of cheering Sony and like Xbox right now as underdog who didn't give, even though they should have.

So not only is Xbox killing it, but the fans were ready for it and the media was ready to see "not sucking ass Xbox".

So you come from another alternate reality were the xbox is killing it?

In this one is a redundant platform without exclusives that failed to even beat its last gen efforts.

I'd actually be upset if that is their marketing mantra, because it would be an obvious lie. Third parties always have and always will crank the eye candy to max at 30fps on console. It's what casual gamers like and they are the lions share of the market.

It will happen. The console makers dont dare tell third-party not to do it. Frankly, we shouldn't be dumb enough to fall for it... and... the cherry on top: it would hold PC graphics back.

I hope 60fps becomes the standard, but that's up to the game devs not the hardware.

Sure the first party games could be forced.

Sony will win again with just 1 word.

"Playstation"

I think in the end if the developer has option to boost visual fidelity at the expense of framerate, make games look better by dropping framerate from 60fps to 30fps, they can't guarantee all developers won't trade off.

The average consumer doesn’t care about frame rate. Hell, if console gamers cared about frame rate they wouldn’t be playing on consoles...