So this means that according to Sony and Cerny the Scorpio will have a 12Tf GPU?
From GAF using old whitepaper:
Scorpio over XB1
GPU = 360% increase
RAM = 50% increase
Bandwith = 370% increase (- whatever ESRAM did)
CPU = we don't know s*** about it yet
Ps4 Pro over Ps4
GPU = 130% increase
RAM = 6.5% more usable ram for games
Bandwith = 24% increase
CPU = 30% increase
http://projectxbox.it/2017/01/24/thomas-mahler-sviluppatore-di-ori-and-the-blind-forest-definisce-project-scorpio-come-una-vera-e-propria-console-next-gen/
Increases the hype about Project Scorpio, at incredible pace thanks to recent tweet by Phil Spencer, boss of Xbox division.
Adding fuel to the fire also thought Thomas Mahler, programmer Moon Studios (Ori and the Blind Forest tell you anything?) With some valuable statements.
Mahler defines Scorpio as a real console "next gen", label that buckles to the new gaming hardware.
His statement breaks with those who believe that Scorpio may simply be an Xbox One a bit 'more enhanced; Scorpio is something that goes well, then:
"Microsoft should clarify an important point, namely that Scorpio is not to be considered as a mid-gen console, but it is something that goes much further, it is a new system."
Mahler also states that the benefits that you will have this more powerful hardware will cover all the games now available on Xbox One, precisely because of its "backward compatibility".
In other words all the games for Xbox One will also run on Scorpio, without problems and without being forced to buy new editions. One thing is already known by the reveal of Scorpio, but it is always better to confirm.
AND
Insider Report: Minecraft 2 will be one of the launch titles of Project Scorpio and will have native support for virtual reality
— X-Rays ♏ (@XRays_Insider) January 24, 2017
E non fatevi abbindolare dal DF che prova a citare ancora Polaris o Jaguar: Scorpio è una bestia con Vega e Ryzen dentro ;)
— X-Rays ♏ (@XRays_Insider) January 24, 2017
Translates: "And don't be fooled by the DF trying to quote Polaris or Jaguar: Scorpio is a beast with Vega and Ryzen inside ;)"
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
Anyone who thought it was going to be true 4K are thick as shit. It better not be using higher clocked jag cores, another bottleneck like the PS Pro.
True 4k? WTF is true 4K? A game is either running 4K or its not. Whether or not a game runs at 4k on the Scorpio or Pro is ENTIRELY dependent on the game.
You know what you guys have been saying about Scorpio since last year. Please don't make me go back and post links.
Care to post proof it won't be playing games in 4K? Don't tell me this topic is your proof? I think it'd be more effective if your post just contained a bunch of moooo's from you instead. You'd look more credible then.
The word you are looking for is 'native'. You did not have checkerboard rendering in your lemming vocabulary before this thread. It's okay. We're talking about 4 times the pixel density of 1080p here. There's really no shame in it. No one wanted a $599 console. We learned that last generation.
Just let the truth flow through you.
Funny thing cowgenja is you're using an outdated article with incomplete information and it says so in it. You're just being the typical cow moooing away your insecurities with the up coming Scorpio release. So sad that you'd have to stoop to this type of article when all you have to do is what a few months. I'm sure the actual specs released from MS will come out rather than this hack of an article. I know.....moooing and insecurity is in your cow nature.
I truly feel sad for you shew. I mean nobody deserves this kind of pain MS has obviously caused you. Brace yourself cause it's only going to get worse once the Scorpio is released. 6TF is far more than 4 and since you cows were all giggles because the PS4 is 500GFs higher, what is 2TFs over the PS4 pro going to do to your psyche.
If this turns out to be true, I think it's now apparent the Cancebox Division is definitely on a budget lol
@goldenelementxl: it's an option, all the Sony fan boys are taking this to me and I can't do 4K, it means that there are many different ways of achieving their goal. Smart developers never waste power rendering 1080p assets at 4K. It's a complete waste of resources. No game is 4K no matter what the PC master race wants you to believe
Microsoft tells you you have options to spend your resources on things they actually matter, as like Sony they know most people don't sit close enough to even resolve 1080. It's guidelines and suggestions.
It's obvious that they would have thought about ESRAM calls in the OS, and that on legacy games it'll be taken care of fairly transparently. They can't break the existing library.
But should they choose to go tonthe metal on Scorpio, they're telling them what is and isn't there so they can prepare accordingly.
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
When did gamers start to become disappointed at more powerful consoles? It's crazy how they spin things into negatives. I am not speaking about silversix necessarily (he condemned the PS Pro).
http://projectxbox.it/2017/01/24/thomas-mahler-sviluppatore-di-ori-and-the-blind-forest-definisce-project-scorpio-come-una-vera-e-propria-console-next-gen/
Increases the hype about Project Scorpio, at incredible pace thanks to recent tweet by Phil Spencer, boss of Xbox division.
Adding fuel to the fire also thought Thomas Mahler, programmer Moon Studios (Ori and the Blind Forest tell you anything?) With some valuable statements.
Mahler defines Scorpio as a real console "next gen", label that buckles to the new gaming hardware.
His statement breaks with those who believe that Scorpio may simply be an Xbox One a bit 'more enhanced; Scorpio is something that goes well, then:
"Microsoft should clarify an important point, namely that Scorpio is not to be considered as a mid-gen console, but it is something that goes much further, it is a new system."
Mahler also states that the benefits that you will have this more powerful hardware will cover all the games now available on Xbox One, precisely because of its "backward compatibility".
In other words all the games for Xbox One will also run on Scorpio, without problems and without being forced to buy new editions. One thing is already known by the reveal of Scorpio, but it is always better to confirm.
AND
Translates: "And don't be fooled by the DF trying to quote Polaris or Jaguar: Scorpio is a beast with Vega and Ryzen inside ;)"
Who's X-Rays?
The Lems Have Been Owned Bz M$ (TLHBOBM$) as is typical. Not only they have no exclusive games now their multiplats are going to be dumbed down on an overpriced midrange closed PC.
Funny you say that. If the Scorpio is a overpriced midrange PC WTF does that make a PS4 or PS4 Pro. I guess that makes them a dumb down overpriced low end PC that cant play multiplats as well as Scorpio. Really starting to smell like cow shit in this thread All this rumor confirms, is the shit Microsoft has already stated the machine would be.
It's fine for what it is. Less powerful than what I was expecting, and so not a full generational leap ahead like I thought it would be, but for an actual upgrade over the Xbox One, it is absolutely great, and will hopefully have more tangible visual results than the PS4 Pro will.
I suppose you have the hardware now, Microsoft- time to work on getting the games. Launch the Scorpio with some cool, irresistible exclusive to make others (including me) want one.
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
When did gamers start to become disappointed at more powerful consoles? It's crazy how they spin things into negatives. I am not speaking about silversix necessarily (he condemned the PS Pro).
I'm reading in here about all this doom and gloom about how much more powerful the "Scropio" will be compared to the Xbox One LOL.
These goof balls in here are just dumb.
If you not open to an upgraded console that you already have, I get it. But to say it's disappointing is asinine.
http://projectxbox.it/2017/01/24/thomas-mahler-sviluppatore-di-ori-and-the-blind-forest-definisce-project-scorpio-come-una-vera-e-propria-console-next-gen/
Increases the hype about Project Scorpio, at incredible pace thanks to recent tweet by Phil Spencer, boss of Xbox division.
Adding fuel to the fire also thought Thomas Mahler, programmer Moon Studios (Ori and the Blind Forest tell you anything?) With some valuable statements.
Mahler defines Scorpio as a real console "next gen", label that buckles to the new gaming hardware.
His statement breaks with those who believe that Scorpio may simply be an Xbox One a bit 'more enhanced; Scorpio is something that goes well, then:
"Microsoft should clarify an important point, namely that Scorpio is not to be considered as a mid-gen console, but it is something that goes much further, it is a new system."
Mahler also states that the benefits that you will have this more powerful hardware will cover all the games now available on Xbox One, precisely because of its "backward compatibility".
In other words all the games for Xbox One will also run on Scorpio, without problems and without being forced to buy new editions. One thing is already known by the reveal of Scorpio, but it is always better to confirm.
AND
Translates: "And don't be fooled by the DF trying to quote Polaris or Jaguar: Scorpio is a beast with Vega and Ryzen inside ;)"
Who's X-Rays?
Supposedly some Italian insider who leaked out stuff related to Scorpio before MS announced it and had got most (not all) of it right. Not sure whether to trust him or not, but he is claiming he will have current specs by the end of the week.
According to Digital Foundry, this thing is apparently going to use a checkerboard approach to 4K gaming just like the PS4 does
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
When did gamers start to become disappointed at more powerful consoles? It's crazy how they spin things into negatives. I am not speaking about silversix necessarily (he condemned the PS Pro).
I'm reading in here about all this doom and gloom about how much more powerful the "Scropio" will be compared to the Xbox One LOL.
These goof balls in here are just dumb.
If you not open to an upgraded console that you already have, I get it. But to say it's disappointing is asinine.
I thought graphics and performance were so important? I remember digital foundry posts here on SW just destroying the Xbox One for losing those battles. And now graphics and performance suddenly doesn't matter when the tables are turned.
Bigshotsmoov007, this right here is a BAD thing, just in case you were not aware:
Scorpio over XB1
GPU = 360% increase
RAM = 50% increase
Bandwith = 370% increase (- whatever ESRAM did)
CPU = we don't know s*** about it yet
Announce and over hype a new product, ride the hype train for ~9months. Close to launch, unveil the disappointment. Yup exactly what i expected. One more year of waiting for a system using the same cpu lolol
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
When did gamers start to become disappointed at more powerful consoles? It's crazy how they spin things into negatives. I am not speaking about silversix necessarily (he condemned the PS Pro).
I'm reading in here about all this doom and gloom about how much more powerful the "Scropio" will be compared to the Xbox One LOL.
These goof balls in here are just dumb.
If you not open to an upgraded console that you already have, I get it. But to say it's disappointing is asinine.
I thought graphics and performance were so important? I remember digital foundry posts here on SW just destroying the Xbox One for losing those battles. And now graphics and performance suddenly doesn't matter when the tables are turned.
Bigshotsmoov007, this right here is a BAD thing, just in case you were not aware:
Scorpio over XB1
GPU = 360% increase
RAM = 50% increase
Bandwith = 370% increase (- whatever ESRAM did)
CPU = we don't know s*** about it yet
I mean it is important>>>>>>>>>>>>>
When it suits them, it gives them a bullet point in their beloved console war.
Take that off the table and they'll find another one, they always do LOL.
Good thing MS is delivering exactly what they told us last year at E3. Day one baby!
So all games will be native 4k. Sure.
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
Its coming out almost a whole generation after the Xbone... no shit its more powerful. No. What's disappointing is the god damn CPU. Since the release of PS4/Xbone, cpu was the problem. Four years later they decided to keep the same trash but overclock it further? This is so dumb its not even funny.
Hope you guys are ready to upgrade to Scorpio, because ya'lls games on original hardware are about to suffer.
The games on XB1 are already suffering. XB1 was shit hardware when it launched and is even worse by today's standards. PS4 isn't much better either. Obviously PC is the way to go, but if people are going to stick with console, I would recommend Scorpio as it will have decent power.
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
Its coming out almost a whole generation after the Xbone... no shit its more powerful. No. What's disappointing is the god damn CPU. Since the release of PS4/Xbone, cpu was the problem. Four years later they decided to keep the same trash but overclock it further? This is so dumb its not even funny.
Mosty likely that's being done to keep the cost down. To upgrade everything it will cost more than the know they can charge to be competitive I guess. I have no problems with it, I have the Pro and the graphics on it looks great with the games so if the "Scorpio" can match or slightly surpass it then I will be pleased.
so they're basically telling developers to do what they always intended, have the games scale between the two systems with different hardware configurations, they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do, but in cow land whatever MS does is evil layered on more evil
another quality thread from
Lol yep.
Just admit you want a Scorpio @Shewgenja. At least it's a proper upgrade, unlike PS4.5 "Pro".
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
Its coming out almost a whole generation after the Xbone... no shit its more powerful. No. What's disappointing is the god damn CPU. Since the release of PS4/Xbone, cpu was the problem. Four years later they decided to keep the same trash but overclock it further? This is so dumb its not even funny.
Mosty likely that's being done to keep the cost down. To upgrade everything it will cost more than the know they can charge to be competitive I guess. I have no problems with it, I have the Pro and the graphics on it looks great with the games so if the "Scorpio" can match or slightly surpass it then I will be pleased.
I have a Pro and I don't see a huge difference. 4k does look better, but not light years.
Well that's disappointing. But what else but disappointment could you expect from MS...
It's disappointing to hear that the "Scropio" is going to be a lot stronger than what the base Xbox One is right now LOL??
In what world and who's disappointed by this?
Its coming out almost a whole generation after the Xbone... no shit its more powerful. No. What's disappointing is the god damn CPU. Since the release of PS4/Xbone, cpu was the problem. Four years later they decided to keep the same trash but overclock it further? This is so dumb its not even funny.
Mosty likely that's being done to keep the cost down. To upgrade everything it will cost more than the know they can charge to be competitive I guess. I have no problems with it, I have the Pro and the graphics on it looks great with the games so if the "Scorpio" can match or slightly surpass it then I will be pleased.
I have a Pro and I don't see a huge difference. 4k does look better, but not light years.
Huge difference in comparison to what? Who said anything about a huge difference anyways, I said the graphics on there look great.
I love that MS never said that all games will be native 4K and that they were leaving it up to the developers. Smart move.
https://gamerant.com/xbox-project-scorpio-4k-games-not-mandatory/
“Scorpio is a 6 teraflop gaming machine, which will be a great gaming machine for true 4K gaming, giving you a native 4K frame buffer so you can see games in all their beauty, or if developers want to use those 6 teraflops in other ways they’re free to do that.”
^that's me finger banging that chick right now.
the only thing you're finger banging is a poster of your Xbox One
^that's me finger banging that chick right now.
the only thing you're finger banging is a poster of your Xbox One
Shit, I got another paper cut! It's right next to my PS Pro poster paper cut! I join the two with blood. Brothers in arms.
^that's me finger banging that chick right now.
the only thing you're finger banging is a poster of your Xbox One
LMAO /thread
Well this would make sense, as it would mean that MS could release the console for well under $600, which if they want to be successful with the Scorpio they must do. It would also make sense in that, if true, this is an instance of MS using "conjecture" tactics, meaning they rely on the keyword teraflop while leaving people to guess the rest for themselves, thus creating buzz around the machine, when lo and behold in the end the Scorpio turns out to be just barely more powerful than the Pro.
But aside from the above, I'm wondering what this will mean for games developed specifically to run with ESram?
Announce and over hype a new product, ride the hype train for ~9months. Close to launch, unveil the disappointment. Yup exactly what i expected. One more year of waiting for a system using the same cpu lolol
They now have to think in terms of business reality. They can already check the box that this will be much closer to full on native 4k then the poo. Have more 4k native games. For the rest cpu and shit they now have to think do we really want to bring a $500+ console to market. Do we take lost on that like the old days, freaken early ps3 shit. What if gamers ignore it like the poo and we never recover from that.
I gotta say though this is still more speculation. Its early enough for Microsoft to still configure the console. It will be a shame if the cpu configuration is the same. A 60fps vs 30fps would be more dramatic IMO.
@kvally: they are disappointed because it will shit on the pro regardless, cows are afraid of now getting the weaker console and are starting to flip flop.
Cant wait till E3.. the great cow slaugter of 2017
another quality thread from
Lol yep.
Just admit you want a Scorpio @Shewgenja. At least it's a proper upgrade, unlike PS4.5 "Pro".
No thankies. I'll be building a gaming machine with actual Ryzen processing, not a rumor mill.
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