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#1 nintendoboy16
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Source: Nintendo's YouTube

Well, here's the video explaining what dropped...

So buying LEGO City (FINALLY) now and Wind Waker HD is pretty tempting. Thoughts?

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#2 Blabadon
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Luigi's Mansion 2 is awesome, get that.

Wind Waker gets a hearty skip from me, but it's the not the worst game.

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#3 bunchanumbers
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I'm glad its finally happening, but they should have done this months ago. Maybe even a year ago. Value games should have been a priority. Average consumers isn't going to look at Nintendo games and find at the register value.

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#4  Edited By Litchie
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Here you go, so that you don't need to watch a boring video:

3DS:
Animal Corssing: New Leaf
Lego City: Undercover
Tomodachi Life
Nintendogs+Cats
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Wii U:
Wind Waker HD
Nintendoland
Lego City: Undercover


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#5 freedomfreak
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Cool stuff. The loading times killed Lego City for me.

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#6  Edited By Kruiz_Bathory
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Wow what a terrible list.

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#7 Blabadon
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@freedomfreak: it's alright, the Wii U being a well thought out console should easily support SSDs' increased loading times, right?

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#8 SarahF
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The hardware needs the drop more than the software. $299 for a Wii U console is unacceptable. Easily the single worst value proposition in the hobby atm.

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#9 Bread_or_Decide
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Luigi's Mansion, Lego City Undercover, And New Leaf are great buys.

@nintendoboy16 said:

Source: Nintendo's YouTube

Well, here's the video explaining what dropped...

So buying LEGO City (FINALLY) now and Wind Waker HD is pretty tempting. Thoughts?

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#10 WreckEm711
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Going to get Lego City finally, I passed on it before and then forgot about it.

Wind Waker HD is a great buy at 20 bucks, I already have it but highly recommend it to anyone. The swift sail makes getting around twice as fast as before, and they fixed the triforce fetch-grind at the end that killed the pacing in the original release.

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#11  Edited By iandizion713
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Ill be buying Tomodachi Life and Nintendo Dogs+Cats plus a bunch more. Gonna give some as gifts this year. Such an awesome list of games to add to the already cheap lineups. Keep em coming Nintendo.

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#12 FinalFighters
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They should drop the price of the Wii U while they're at it..

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#13  Edited By iandizion713
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@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

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#14 deactivated-5a7fcf5e55c95
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I'd highly recommend all of those games except maybe Lego City on the 3DS. Nintendogs is an acquired taste so if you like those games I don't think you'll be disappointed. Tomodachi Life is so weird and yet pretty fun to just experience.

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@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

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@FinalFighters said:
@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

Buy a refurb. Only costs $200. Then you could tack on 5 Nintendo selects and you got a system and 5 games for under $300.

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#17  Edited By iandizion713
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@FinalFighters said:
@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

You can buy one for $199 used from Nintendo right now. Good price? I bought my Wii U Skylanders Bundle $199 2 years ago. How much cheaper do people need? $99? I doubt many would care. Sure it will sale a few million more, but that wont be enough.

Its funny people will pay $199 for a Pokemon 3DS but not for a Wii U. It would be Gamecube all over again, bundled with a game for $99 and people still didnt want it. Wii U priced at $299 and with no third party support as sold more then Dreamcast and not far from Gamecube. I call it a miracle.

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@FinalFighters said:
@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

Ditto.

This has been brought up quite a bit on the forums, so it's a warranted request. Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot w/ the Wii U being overpriced, think of the additional software sales, too. Drop the price for those still waiting to buy one, Nintendo!

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#19  Edited By iandizion713
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@shellcase86: The number of people waiting for Wii U is very, very tiny. So tiny, you almost cant see it.

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#20 DragonfireXZ95
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Pretty paltry list. Well, Nintendo being Nintendo, I suppose.

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@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Oh god, do I hate to say it... but you have a point. Price dropping the Wii U is going to fix f*** all! Until NX releases, they may as well just ride this the hell out. Not like Wii U critics NEVER said Nintendo deserved the fate they got with the Wii U, so they may as well just not bother and prevent a post-2006 GameCube issue.

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If this would have happened a year ago, I would have probably bought Lego City Undercover. As it stands, I have other stuff to play.

Some good games there, though. Luigi's Mansion was very fun.

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@iandizion713 said:
@FinalFighters said:
@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

You can buy one for $199 used from Nintendo right now. Good price? I bought my Wii U Skylanders Bundle $199 2 years ago. How much cheaper do people need? $99? I doubt many would care. Sure it will sale a few million more, but that wont be enough.

Its funny people will pay $199 for a Pokemon 3DS but not for a Wii U. It would be Gamecube all over again, bundled with a game for $99 and people still didnt want it. Wii U priced at $299 and with no third party support as sold more then Dreamcast and not far from Gamecube. I call it a miracle.

Some people don't want refurbs. Besides, I think at this point most would say $199 isn't even a great price for a *NEW* Wii-U, let alone for a refurb. For a refurb, or for a Skylanders bundle with only 8GB, I'd say $99 might actually be the appropriate price.

That being said, it is true a price cut now doesn't matter. Nobody would even care - even at $199 or $149 I doubt many would care. Of course retailers might want to get rid of stale inventory. To rid themselves of the entire Wii-U section. They might not be able to (or want to) unless Nintendo is sharing in those losses.

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Sweet, Luigi's Mansion and Animal Crossing.

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#25  Edited By iandizion713
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@2Chalupas: What loses, Nintendo done made the sale to the store, the deal is done. These new price drops are to try and get stores to buy more. Price dropping Wii U wont make stores buy more. It might make them angry cause it means not only was their Wii U stock not moving, but now the profit will be less.

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@iandizion713 said:
@FinalFighters said:
@iandizion713 said:

@FinalFighters: Nobody wants Wii U. Dropping the price wont fix that, itll just give you short term profits which is not cool.

Not true.

i want a wii u and if they just drop the price i would buy one in a heart beat. im sure many people would do the same.

You can buy one for $199 used from Nintendo right now. Good price? I bought my Wii U Skylanders Bundle $199 2 years ago. How much cheaper do people need? $99? I doubt many would care. Sure it will sale a few million more, but that wont be enough.

Its funny people will pay $199 for a Pokemon 3DS but not for a Wii U. It would be Gamecube all over again, bundled with a game for $99 and people still didnt want it. Wii U priced at $299 and with no third party support as sold more then Dreamcast and not far from Gamecube. I call it a miracle.

Yep, I remember getting our GameCube when we were in Jr. High and it coming with Metroid Prime and a Bonus Disc Demo for Metroid Prime 2. Despite Metroid Prime being called a killer app for the GameCube (another being Melee and Resident Evil 4), NOBODY wanted a GameCube until after 2006.

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#27 Bigboi500
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As a collector, those selects boxes suck. For a budget gamer it's good tho.

Thank Gawd I just got the regular version of LCU.

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#28 DJ-Lafleur
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Meh, nothing there interests me and I already got Wind Waker HD free through Mario Kart 8.

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#29  Edited By iandizion713
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@Bigboi500 said:

As a collector, those selects boxes suck. For a budget gamer it's good tho.

Thank Gawd I just got the regular version of LCU.

As a collector you should be praising those ugly boxes, your original cover is now worth more. Wind Waker HD now has 3 covers with 3 different values. The gold cover being the rarest i guess.

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@iandizion713 said:

You can buy one for $199 used from Nintendo right now. Good price? I bought my Wii U Skylanders Bundle $199 2 years ago. How much cheaper do people need? $99? I doubt many would care. Sure it will sale a few million more, but that wont be enough.

Its funny people will pay $199 for a Pokemon 3DS but not for a Wii U. It would be Gamecube all over again, bundled with a game for $99 and people still didnt want it. Wii U priced at $299 and with no third party support as sold more then Dreamcast and not far from Gamecube. I call it a miracle.

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

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#31  Edited By iandizion713
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@Solaryellow: Considering Gamecube was cheaper and had WAY better third party support, Wii U is doing great. How bout instead of dropping price of Wii U, they first worry about NX. NX is what the people want, not a $99 dollar Wii U. After NX, then we can talk about price drop.

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I want Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon and Lego City: Undercover.

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@iandizion713 said:

@Solaryellow: Considering Gamecube was cheaper and had WAY better third party support, Wii U is doing great. How bout instead of dropping price of Wii U, they first worry about NX. NX is what the people want, not a $99 dollar Wii U. After NX, then we can talk about price drop.

First you say a $199.99 refurbished Wii U is a good price yet priced even lower at $99.00 will not entice people? Sooner or later Nintendo will be forced to have a fire sale that will remove the unsold stock. Drop the price now might make for some respectable sales because the only way someone will buy it when the NX is released is if they give it away. Drop it a bit now or a lot later is the difference between a lot of money.

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#34  Edited By iandizion713
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@Solaryellow: Short term money yes, but not good for a long term money plan. Nintendo doesnt need short term money. Nintendo needs NX.

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@iandizion713 said:

@Solaryellow: Short term money yes, but not good for a long term money plan. Nintendo doesnt need short term money. Nintendo needs NX.

This isn't about any term money. Nintendo has a flop and they need to get rid of the supply. Ask yourself if it will be easier to sell an obsolete console when the NX is released or now, when there still remains eight months or so with the Wii U on the shelves. Better yet, think of it as a medical problem. Is it better to address the problem sooner than later? The answer this company seems to have figured out is to release a plug and play toy for the holiday season.

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#36  Edited By iandizion713
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@Solaryellow: I say address the NX problem soon. The people are thirsty for it.

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seems kinda late with the NX on the horizon

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@iandizion713 said:
@Bigboi500 said:

As a collector, those selects boxes suck. For a budget gamer it's good tho.

Thank Gawd I just got the regular version of LCU.

As a collector you should be praising those ugly boxes, your original cover is now worth more. Wind Waker HD now has 3 covers with 3 different values. The gold cover being the rarest i guess.

Looking at games like Smash Bros. Melee and even various SNES games, where's Adam Conover where you need him?

@Solaryellow said:
@iandizion713 said:

You can buy one for $199 used from Nintendo right now. Good price? I bought my Wii U Skylanders Bundle $199 2 years ago. How much cheaper do people need? $99? I doubt many would care. Sure it will sale a few million more, but that wont be enough.

Its funny people will pay $199 for a Pokemon 3DS but not for a Wii U. It would be Gamecube all over again, bundled with a game for $99 and people still didnt want it. Wii U priced at $299 and with no third party support as sold more then Dreamcast and not far from Gamecube. I call it a miracle.

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

That. NEVER. WORKED. Jeez, were you even there in the GameCube/PS2/XBOX gen?

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That lego game was trash, I don't see the appeal for people over 6.

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#40  Edited By Solaryellow
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@Solaryellow said:

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

That. NEVER. WORKED. Jeez, were you even there in the GameCube/PS2/XBOX gen?

Are you positive you remember that time correctly? The numbers I have found show a GREATER amount of sales with price drops in effect than without. The first drop down to $149.99 did it. The second drop down to $99.99 did it as well. My guess is that you haven't looked at the numbers for individual months. If you did you would understand how well the GCN sold that December when it was dropped down to under a hundred. Even the fifty dollar drop resulted in better December sales that when the GCN was full price during its first December after launch.

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#41  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@Solaryellow said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@Solaryellow said:

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

That. NEVER. WORKED. Jeez, were you even there in the GameCube/PS2/XBOX gen?

Are you positive you remember that time correctly? The numbers I have found show a GREATER amount of sales with price drops in effect than without. The first drop down to $149.99 did it. The second drop down to $99.99 did it as well. My guess is that you haven't looked at the numbers for individual months. If you did you would understand how well the GCN sold that December when it was dropped down to under a hundred.

Would be funny if it sold less with a price drop. But with the Neo and NX and Scorpio, and even the XB1 S... (which I guess is selling some units because it's the first new thing?), I don't think doing anything would really have an impact. Hmm if they lower the price wouldn't that tell people to wait it out? They don't want people to wait it out with the NX. And their Wii U lineup isn't their strongest. Also, people who waited for a price drop probably aren't looking to get games for it. I could see them go either way with this.

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#42 nintendoboy16
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@Solaryellow said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@Solaryellow said:

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

That. NEVER. WORKED. Jeez, were you even there in the GameCube/PS2/XBOX gen?

Are you positive you remember that time correctly? The numbers I have found show a GREATER amount of sales with price drops in effect than without. The first drop down to $149.99 did it. The second drop down to $99.99 did it as well. My guess is that you haven't looked at the numbers for individual months. If you did you would understand how well the GCN sold that December when it was dropped down to under a hundred. Even the fifty dollar drop resulted in better December sales that when the GCN was full price during its first December after launch.

I looked at enough numbers back then and have learned enough of their predicament back then (which some will try and deny now). They were still BAD numbers that even gaming journos got on first chance they got. It was all over G4, it was all over Gamespot (I may not have joined then, but the articles are still there), it was even all over Game Informer.

It's as the pro-Nintendo troll says, dropping the price will do **** all for Wii U, like it did **** all with the GameCube, even if you bundle killer apps.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@Solaryellow said:
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@Solaryellow said:

Considering Best Buy has new 500gb X1's for $249.99? Nintendo needs to do much better than $199.99 for a used console. When I look at the selection of retail availability of software, I'd avoid purchasing this console provided I didn't already own one.

Drop the price of a new Wii U down to a buck and a half or so and rekindle that "you've got money" promotion from the days of the GCN and it might make for a bit more enticing proposition. The GCN sold something in the area of 22 million. An eight million deficit is hardly "not far" in terms of comparison sales.

That. NEVER. WORKED. Jeez, were you even there in the GameCube/PS2/XBOX gen?

Are you positive you remember that time correctly? The numbers I have found show a GREATER amount of sales with price drops in effect than without. The first drop down to $149.99 did it. The second drop down to $99.99 did it as well. My guess is that you haven't looked at the numbers for individual months. If you did you would understand how well the GCN sold that December when it was dropped down to under a hundred. Even the fifty dollar drop resulted in better December sales that when the GCN was full price during its first December after launch.

I looked at enough numbers back then and have learned enough of their predicament back then (which some will try and deny now). They were still BAD numbers that even gaming journos got on first chance they got. It was all over G4, it was all over Gamespot (I may not have joined then, but the articles are still there), it was even all over Game Informer.

It's as the pro-Nintendo troll says, dropping the price will do **** all for Wii U, like it did **** all with the GameCube, even if you bundle killer apps.

Do you know how good the Mario Maker WiiU sold? That looked like there most interesting bundle if it didn't sell then that sucks.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

I looked at enough numbers back then and have learned enough of their predicament back then (which some will try and deny now). They were still BAD numbers that even gaming journos got on first chance they got. It was all over G4, it was all over Gamespot (I may not have joined then, but the articles are still there), it was even all over Game Informer.

It's as the pro-Nintendo troll says, dropping the price will do **** all for Wii U, like it did **** all with the GameCube, even if you bundle killer apps.

You said a price drop would not help because it never worked with the GCN and you are 100% wrong. The sales figures were much better after price drops and promotions were implemented. If you looked at "enough" numbers as you claim, you wouldn't have said dropping it to $149.99 and $99.99 didn't help. People are not going to purchase an outdated and obsolete console for the prices Nintendo is asking when less money will give you a superior system. Whatever the NX turns out to be, what do you think will happen to the sales of the Wii U? They are bad now let alone when a new console is released. Nintendo can not sell it at its current prices.

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@shellcase86: The number of people waiting for Wii U is very, very tiny. So tiny, you almost cant see it.

So it's better to sell no units vs. the small amount they would if they dropped the price (along with the additional revenue if these people buy some software, and accessories)?

Learn something new everyday!

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Some great games on that list. I'll happily support that.

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@Solaryellow said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

I looked at enough numbers back then and have learned enough of their predicament back then (which some will try and deny now). They were still BAD numbers that even gaming journos got on first chance they got. It was all over G4, it was all over Gamespot (I may not have joined then, but the articles are still there), it was even all over Game Informer.

It's as the pro-Nintendo troll says, dropping the price will do **** all for Wii U, like it did **** all with the GameCube, even if you bundle killer apps.

You said a price drop would not help because it never worked with the GCN and you are 100% wrong. The sales figures were much better after price drops and promotions were implemented. If you looked at "enough" numbers as you claim, you wouldn't have said dropping it to $149.99 and $99.99 didn't help. People are not going to purchase an outdated and obsolete console for the prices Nintendo is asking when less money will give you a superior system. Whatever the NX turns out to be, what do you think will happen to the sales of the Wii U? They are bad now let alone when a new console is released. Nintendo can not sell it at its current prices.

If it worked like you said, don't you think the GameCube should've outsold the XBOX by that point? Because last I checked, it didn't, so I stand by what I said that no particular price drop + game bundle HELPED the GameCube at all. Hardly anybody that was already riding off Sony and Microsoft the whole way cared for it until after it died out in 2006, the year the Wii came out.

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@shellcase86 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@shellcase86: The number of people waiting for Wii U is very, very tiny. So tiny, you almost cant see it.

So it's better to sell no units vs. the small amount they would if they dropped the price (along with the additional revenue if these people buy some software, and accessories)?

Learn something new everyday!

Its all about timing. When NX releases, then stores can drop prices. People will say, why buy a Wii U when i can buy an NX? And the answer to that will be, affordability.

Nintendo cant afford to sell Wii U at $150. Sure it will clear stock fast, but we dont want empty shelves till NX, that dont look good for business. You want a smooth transition.

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Still no Star Fox 3D

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@nintendoboy16 said:

If it worked like you said, don't you think the GameCube should've outsold the XBOX by that point? Because last I checked, it didn't, so I stand by what I said that no particular price drop + game bundle HELPED the GameCube at all. Hardly anybody that was already riding off Sony and Microsoft the whole way cared for it until after it died out in 2006, the year the Wii came out.

You are looking at the glass half empty. If none of the price cuts were implemented, the sales would have not reached its conclusion of 22 million unit or so. The numbers would have been much less. Argue all you want but the fact is the months with price drops outpaced the same time frames when it was full price. As one example for you, the first price drop (in 6 months time) outsold the original price (during the same time frame) by over 300k units. In December of 2003 it sold 1.6 million units and that was effected by the $99.99 tag. The first six months when it was dropped to $99.99 outsold the first six months at regular price by a million. Nintendo saw better sales at a cheaper price point but it didn't help at all.

To answer your first question, no, I don't think so at all because Nintendo dropped prices to respond to price drops implemented by Sony and MS.