Microsoft's Cloud/Server Claims Are Lies - Jonathan Blow

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#1 Shielder7
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Jonathan Blow, creator of Braid, calls "BS" on claims cloud processing will improve the physics and lighting of Xbox One games.

Earlier this month, Microsoft claimed that it would have 300,000 Xbox servers up and running by the end of the year. It also claimed that the cloud processing technology being employed by the Xbox One will actually improve various graphical aspects of its games. Jonathan Blow, prominent indie developer most famous for quicky platformer Braid, has firmly called "BS" on both of these claims.

Microsoft's claim of 300,000 servers by the end of the year was meant to stun consumers and investors, but Blow is not so easily swayed. "I can spin up 10,000 virtual servers per host. They would just all suck," said the developer over Twitter, calling out Microsoft for "Saying 300k when they are virtual is a lie."

He didn't stop there, tweeting that the supposed physics and lighting improvements from cloud processing is "More cloud processing BS." While he doesn't have the technical know-how himself to call Microsoft out on it, he urges for "Someone [to] please call their bluff on this."

Braid was initially an Xbox 360 exclusive that eventually made it over to PC and PS3. Blow is a particularly vocal personality, and complained numerous times that Microsoft's poor policies are what have made him defer over to Sony, developing his upcoming game, The Witness, as PS4 exclusive.

I'm guessing Microsoft's PR guys are wishing that they didn't treat Mr. Blow so badly back when he was still developing for its platform. Blow's prominence in the indie dev scene is sure to make several major players sit up and listen, and should only serve to worsen the PR disaster following Microsoft's Xbox One reveal event.

Source: Twitter via Action Trip

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#2 Shielder7
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I got a feeling Microsoft's Cloud/Server BS is similar to Sim Citys server processing BS that ended up Being a complete lie.
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#4 Shielder7
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Sony cock rider confirmed

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NO U

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#5 CJ_ofCamelot
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Probably ain't even gonna use real servers, they will utilize virtual servers.
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#6 OhSnapitz
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..yea because with the likes of Gears, Halo 4, and Forza 4/Horizon.. M$ surely won't be able to create amazing games with more CPU/GPU power and 8 gigs of ram compared to 512 mb on the 360. :roll:
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#7 Heil68
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But it's 300,000 servers!!!11!!
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#8 Nengo_Flow
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its literally getting worst for lems by the hour
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#9 Xaero_Gravity
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But it's 300,000 servers!!!11!!Heil68
Not to mention the X1's 5 Billion transistors! :o
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#10 Giancar
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Teh cloudz :o
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#11 Wickerman777
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This guy is just speculating. He doesn't actually know if what MS is claiming is true or not.

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#12 NFJSupreme
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no evidence, just speculation.  next.

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#13 Wickerman777
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no evidence, just speculation.  next.

NFJSupreme

Lol, nearly the same reply at the same time. :)

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#14 lx_theo
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The cloud... The cloud... How familiar to the cell... Lets see how this plays out :lol:

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#15 Big_Pecks
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There isn't 300k, there's nOne.

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The cloud... The cloud... How familiar to the cell... Lets see how this plays out :lol:

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I'm going to guess even worse than the cell. 

At least the cell was a real tangible thing that developers COULD have learned more effectively for PS3 (a few did great, most did "ok", and a few failed miserably). The cloud is not even real. I can't believe anyone actually thinks games being played locally are going to have "more powahhh" and get a substantial graphics boost from the cloud. LOL. 

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#17 Shielder7
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no evidence, just speculation.  next.

NFJSupreme
I think it's more speculation that Cloud will actually do anything.
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#18 Gxgear
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Jonathan Blow is getting a bit too big for his britches.

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#19 reynal1287
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Sony has the cell powah and now ms has the cloud powah.

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#20 jsmoke03
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i wonder if blow didnt make money on the ps4, would he just jump over to steam and curse sony and ms? lol

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#21 Wickerman777
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Jonathan Blow is getting a bit too big for his britches.

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The game he showed at PS4's event looked like crap to me.

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#22 timbers_WSU
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Thread #4 on this......

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#23 Tessellation
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The man he is bitching about actually made a game that is rendered on the cloud,i guess this is a case of jealous developer.
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#24 SexyJazzCat
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Silly cows can't even fathom the power of...

TEH CLOUD!!!!

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#25 navyguy21
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first = OLD! second = how would he know? he makes indy games. If John Carmack said it i might believe it.
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#26 silversix_
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Da cloudz, 300.000 servers, 5.000.000.000 transistorz, Spycam Kinect for free, EXTREMELY fast at switching TV channels, exclusive Call of Duty 1 month DLC's, 15 exclusive titles, ONLY need to be online once per 24h, Xbox One has them all! If you ignore Xbox One and not purchase One you're a a blind fanboy who ignores quality.
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#27 epicgameplayer
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But it's 300,000 servers!!!11!!Heil68
Haha of course as we all know teh powerz of teh cloud is teh infinity omzg11!!1
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#28 youngmurk911
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its literally getting worst for lems by the hourNengo_Flow
lol
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#29 campzor
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More lies...what a surprise.
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LOL. Jonathan.

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#31 epicgameplayer
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More lies...what a surprise.campzor
Its Microsoft All they do is lie... Remember all the propoganda kinect commericals at the begining which promised all kinds of crazy things? The kinect hasnt even lived up to 5% of the many promises Microsoft was making back then
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#33 Miketheman83
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Sony fans are really scared of the power of cloud computing. Either way its more innovative than anything Sony is doing this gen.
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#34 Jack-Burton
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Has MS been "Blowing Clouds" Thank you! I'm here all night, tip your waitress.
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#35 2Chalupas
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Sony fans are really scared of the power of cloud computing. Either way its more innovative than anything Sony is doing this gen.Miketheman83

Gaikai? 

XBOX fans are being fooled here into thinking the cloud is a meaningful feature.

If Sony puts out a Gaikai app for PS3, it would be like them saying "cloud increases the power of the PS3 x 1000". Really they could just make up whatever number they want. This is the type of bullshit MS is feeding you. They actually have your expecations that hardware graphics capability will be increased by the cloud. LOL. 

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#36 shellcase86
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Sounds right.

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#37 kuraimen
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Wait so they are 300000 VIRTUAL servers??? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Oh M$ you really like to take advantage of people stupidity. You would be hilarious if you weren't so evil.
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Sony fans are really scared of the power of cloud computing. Either way its more innovative than anything Sony is doing this gen.2Chalupas

Gaikai? 

XBOX fans are being fooled here into thinking the cloud is a meaningful feature.

If Sony puts out a Gaikai app for PS3, it would be like them saying "cloud increases the power of the PS3 x 1000". Really they could just make up whatever number they want. This is the type of bullshit MS is feeding you. They actually have your expecations that hardware graphics capability will be increased by the cloud. LOL. 

If you consider being charged for backwards compatibility innovative then sure.
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#39 clr84651
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Cloud Service doesn't do crap to make games have better graphics or run at higher FPS. It's a service to help networks like xlive etc. 

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#40 jimmypsn
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The One + The cloud >> than the PS4

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#41 Giancar
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Sony fans are really scared of the power of cloud computing. Either way its more innovative than anything Sony is doing this gen.Miketheman83
I am having a big deja vu moment. Just replace this with Teh Cell. =/
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#42 Shielder7
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Sony fans are really scared of the power of cloud computing. Either way its more innovative than anything Sony is doing this gen.Miketheman83
Please explain how cloud will enhance graphics, FPS or whatever the hell it's supposed to do.
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#43 mrmusicman247
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he's gotta change his name
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#44 I_can_haz
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:cry: but teh cloudz! This isn't surprising at all. Everyone but Lems knows that M$ is full of shit.
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#45 RR360DD
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:cry: but teh cloudz! This isn't surprising at all. Everyone but Lems knows that M$ is full of shit.I_can_haz

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#46 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:cry: but teh cloudz! This isn't surprising at all. Everyone but Lems knows that M$ is full of shit.RR360DD

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#47 Sagemode87
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:cry: but teh cloudz! This isn't surprising at all. Everyone but Lems knows that M$ is full of shit.I_can_haz

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Lol, we have a winner.
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#48 jg4xchamp
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Braid is amazing But blow should shut up
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#49 SKaREO
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Jo Blow burns bridges with billion dollar corporations while continuing to produce second rate games for casual plebs.
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#50 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

The cloud... The cloud... How familiar to the cell... Lets see how this plays out :lol:

2Chalupas

 

I'm going to guess even worse than the cell. 

At least the cell was a real tangible thing that developers COULD have learned more effectively for PS3 (a few did great, most did "ok", and a few failed miserably). The cloud is not even real. I can't believe anyone actually thinks games being played locally are going to have "more powahhh" and get a substantial graphics boost from the cloud. LOL. 

Heh, pretty true. It'll end up being the same idea of morons spouting out a attention getting phrase as their entire argument without actually understanding the impact it makes. It'll be gloriously hilarious.