Microsoft gaming division made 11.5 billion in 2018

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#51 BlackBalls
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And still 1 third of Sony's games division, lol.

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#52 pdogg93
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Can someone explain to me how MS’s revenue translates to worthwhile games picking up an xbone for?

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#53 R4gn4r0k
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@with_teeth26 said:

hah yea it starts at 8 million, didn't notice that. very sneaky

Oh yeah, they tend to do graphs like that. Seems like it's doubled, but actually it's only a 3 billion increase.

@sakaixx said:

Thats the weird thing. If we talk gamepass, we already got reports that PSNow is owning 50% of that market and if its games, spidey alone does better than all xbox one exclusive this year. I mean its not I am disbelieving but not even Nintendo is capable to do this number currently. It may be due to Azure or else that is lumped together with the game division, but anyhow I am glad there is competition.

Yeah man, competition is healthy. But honestly I'm more interested in MS now that they bring all their games over to PC.

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#54 deactivated-5f4e2292197f1
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If you're asking for things like Xbox only numbers or how this makes Xbox better........why bother asking when nothing anyone can say will change your mind.

This proves Xbox has gotten better and will continue to get better. It says Xbox isn't going to just quit and give up like so many think they should, as if Xbox was the one who killed their console when it topped at 15 million units and killed all 3rd party support and did jack shit for several months at a time....that was Nintendo, and in less than 2 year almost completely matched what Sony has done in Japan in 6 years.

The only 2 companies with failed hardware in 8th gen is Sony and Nintendo. So if anyone got kicked out of a market, it was Sony and Nintendo. Yet somehow what Xbox has done is the only thing people want to claim as the only loser thing that has happened while PSVR is around there somewhere.

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@blackballs said:

And still 1 third of Sony's games division, lol.

How much of Sony's games division money do you reckon they spend on the other parts of the company that's not doing so good???

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#57 tdkmillsy
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Not to bad, going in the right direction. Hope they continue to put the money to good use and make more games and develop gamepass.

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#58  Edited By Jag85
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Mostly thanks to PC and Windows.

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#59 tdkmillsy
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@Jag85 said:

Mostly thanks to PC and Windows.

Nothing wrong with that if that's the case. Its a market they are in.

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#60 SecretPolice
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Mangy, soooo much Salt from the usual MS/Xbox anti-fans...

Love it. Good stuff. :P

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#61  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@SecretPolice: Xbox Won :P

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#62 SecretPolice
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@R4gn4r0k:

Mah man..

lol :)

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#64 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily: zero since each division is its own entity and has their own operating budgets. And last I checked only their mobile division was struggling to keep up with the other Sony orgs.

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#65 sealionact
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@Jag85: Source?

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#66 brimmul777
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Microsoft seems to be doing decent in something and it seems that Sony players have a serious case of ass itch? Why the heck it would bother other console gamers that Xbox gaming is a little bit more revenue then the other two. I would think it's good for gamers in general,wouldn't it? ?To be honest,I'm not a fan of Nintendo kiddish looking games,but would still be pleased if Nintendo made a conciderable large profit/revenue,as hopefully Sony as well?

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#67 enzyme36
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Only an idiot would believe Microsoft was losing money. Game industry is thriving... I'd love to be in last place for sales, laughing all the way to the bank.

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#68  Edited By Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

Where in this thread was it stated that MS' gaming division was profitable? They only release revenue information. Yet the quote is talking about profits, of which we have no info on. So clearly profit was confused with revenue. I mean it sounded like an honest mistake, but it did happen. No big deal.

So in other words no one equated revenue to profits. Gotcha. I mean its an honest mistake to think other people were confused because you were confused. No big deal.

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#69 R4gn4r0k
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@enzyme36 said:

Only an idiot would believe Microsoft was losing money. Game industry is thriving... I'd love to be in last place for sales, laughing all the way to the bank.

Game industry is thriving yet a lot of companies still shut down last year:

Visceral Games

Telltale games

Capcom Vancouver

among many others

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#70 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Where in this thread was it stated that MS' gaming division was profitable? They only release revenue information. Yet the quote is talking about profits, of which we have no info on. So clearly profit was confused with revenue. I mean it sounded like an honest mistake, but it did happen. No big deal.

So in other words no one equated revenue to profits. Gotcha. I mean its an honest mistake to think other people were confused because you were confused. No big deal.

I mean i that's how you want to read it, I won't stop you.

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#71 kuu2
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Sony Fan meltingdown trying to play financial analyst. Give it up guys Xbox is a monster for MSoft.

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#72 Fedor
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@kuu2: You mean the gaming division is a monster?

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#73 enzyme36
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@R4gn4r0k: indeed... unfortunately it's not so rosey on the developer side of things. The market is so cutthroat and fans have established their biases.... couple that with the rediculous cost of a single game development, it's just too volatile for some developers.

Less risk and more opportunities to sell services on the platform side.

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#74 Chutebox
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@kuu2: Pleeeaaasseee use a picture that makes sense

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#75 BigBadBully
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Scary thing is MS still has XCloud and GamePass(PC) coming into play which should boost it more along with all the new studios pumping new content out.

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#76 SecretPolice
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-earnings-show-strong-performance-with-one-exc/1100-6464713/

How long before Amazon, and Google, replace S&N? lol :P

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#77 R4gn4r0k
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@enzyme36 said:

@R4gn4r0k: indeed... unfortunately it's not so rosey on the developer side of things. The market is so cutthroat and fans have established their biases.... couple that with the rediculous cost of a single game development, it's just too volatile for some developers.

Less risk and more opportunities to sell services on the platform side.

That's how I would describe it: a really prosperous, yet risky business.

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#78 BlackBalls
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@i_p_daily said:
@blackballs said:

And still 1 third of Sony's games division, lol.

How much of Sony's games division money do you reckon they spend on the other parts of the company that's not doing so good???

And your point is?

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#79  Edited By shellcase86
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@Sagemode87 said:

So now we're talking about profits? Love how the goalposts always move for MS fans.

Nah, we talking revenue.

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@Zero_epyon said:

I mean i that's how you want to read it, I won't stop you.

You were confused. Its an honest mistake. Don't make it a big deal.

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#81 Sevenizz
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@blackballs: Shame sony as a whole makes no money and their games division has to keep failing divisions afloat.

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#82 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

I mean i that's how you want to read it, I won't stop you.

You were confused. Its an honest mistake. Don't make it a big deal.

Not trying to, hence "I won't stop you." So whatevs...

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#83 jeezers
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@that_old_guy said:

I believe Game Passhas a lot to do with it.

GP is friggin great.

thats my belief as well, really great service that is consistent revenue as is live.

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#85 R4gn4r0k
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@jeezers said:

thats my belief as well, really great service that is consistent revenue as is live.

I wish game pass was better on PC. Right now it's a treat for Xbox users.

If it would get every MS exclusive from now on, including Age of Empires IV, I might get it.

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@Zero_epyon said:

@i_p_daily: zero since each division is its own entity and has their own operating budgets. And last I checked only their mobile division was struggling to keep up with the other Sony orgs.

C'mon man tell me you're not that naïve. The money goes into Sony's bank account, not a playstation account lol. Yes while each has its own operating budgets its foolish to think that Sony wouldn't use profits from other parts of the company to help prop up another.

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#87 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@i_p_daily: zero since each division is its own entity and has their own operating budgets. And last I checked only their mobile division was struggling to keep up with the other Sony orgs.

C'mon man tell me you're not that naïve. The money goes into Sony's bank account, not a playstation account lol. Yes while each has its own operating budgets its foolish to think that Sony wouldn't use profits from other parts of the company to help prop up another.

Even if, all other divisions are profitable except one. And it's not like their mobile division is going bankrupt. Sony is not in financial trouble. Neither of them are.