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#1 Super_Toad_64
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Iknow im YEARS late on the subject but its because i only just played it starting a week back and its the most horrid game ive played period!

The amount of cut scenes, loading screens, ruined story is just such a diservice to the franchise along with the rubbish boss fights who arent even interesting characters there just crazy chicks in Gimp suits FFS! .I rate this Lower than MGS 2 WAY lower (I actually thought MGS2 was good!).

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#2 mystervj
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It's def not divisive from the franchise.
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#3 designer-
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There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation
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#5 italygamer
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I found it decent, but its name is history, those games will barely ever get bad scores even if they're not top notch.

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#6 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="designer-"]There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation

Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.
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#7 jarediswicked92
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Horribly overrated.
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#8 GTSaiyanjin2
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I thought it was great... one of the best games this gen

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#9 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

Iknow im YEARS late on the subject but its because i only just played it starting a week back and its the most horrid game ive played period!

The amount of cut scenes, loading screens, ruined story is just such a diservice to the franchise along with the rubbish boss fights who arent even interesting characters there just crazy chicks in Gimp suits FFS! .I rate this Lower than MGS 2 WAY lower (I actually thought MGS2 was good!).

Ya, I bought this a few months ago.. waste of money. Not sure HOW it got a 10 here on Gamespot...
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#10 Solid_Link22
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I DISRESPECTFULLY disagree with you

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#11 Snagal123
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Its also badly written with some of the most awful dialogue in a game.

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#12 hd5870corei7
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Sorry TC but your void opinion isn't worth a used stick of gum. We're on Gamespot, Gamespot scores is what matters GS has said MGS4 is "Technically the most stunning video game ever made" and "A fine of example of storytelling within its medium prowess"


That being I agree with GS completely Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best I have ever played.

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[QUOTE="designer-"]There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation KHAndAnime

Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.

Why?? Kojima did an excellent job with Peace Walker... the problem with MGS4 is that the story is so heavy, easy to get lost and mostly easy to get bored by it. Too much needless crap.

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#14 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="designer-"]There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation GreenGoblin2099

Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.

Why?? Kojima did an excellent job with Peace Walker... the problem with MGS4 is that the story is so heavy, easy to get lost and mostly easy to get bored by it. Too much needless crap.

Peace Walker is cool and everything but the game is really really really silly. Instead of servicing the current convoluted story, Kojima should take what he's learned and write something new.
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#15 paradigm68
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I think it's a great game, not a 10 but for sure higher then a 8.
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#16 designer-
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.

They should just learn to cut down on their nonsense and stop insulting the characters that they have spent so long building up.

SPOILERS

Its ridiculous that snake does not shoot himself at the end. It basically insults the strongest scene in MGS4 (the toaster) let alone the entire series. Drebin as a character was just unneeded. I honestly liked the stories about the four women but they had nothing to do with anything. It was pure and utter nonsense just thrown in for some dramatic effect. Why did we need Meryl there at all, Akiba with his non nanomachineness (just made up a word) was important to the plot, Meryll was completely unneeded. I liked to see Eva, but again, her presence was fan service.

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Hideo went out to make a game that was a service for the people that loved the series, but in doing so he got so worked up on making sure that ever plot element was put in that it just stopped being about the central elements of what happened in 4 but rather about having cameos from everyone that once showed their face in the series.

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Did I mention the ending was just a pure load of s**t? I feel I have but it needs to be said a few times over. I may sound angry, Im not, its just the MGS was one of the series I kind grew up with. It honestly saddens me just how disappointing the "final" solid snake game was.
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#17 0diN_7
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I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed this game.

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#18 cheddar99
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Sorry TC but your void opinion isn't worth a used stick of gum. We're on Gamespot, Gamespot scores is what matters GS has said MGS4 is "Technically the most stunning video game ever made" and "A fine of example of storytelling within its medium prowess"


That being I agree with GS completely Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best I have ever played.

hd5870corei7

How dare he disagree with you/gamespot? Disgusting.

Anyway, I agree, it was a pretty big let down.

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#19 lazerface216
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Sorry TC but your void opinion isn't worth a used stick of gum. We're on Gamespot, Gamespot scores is what matters GS has said MGS4 is "Technically the most stunning video game ever made" and "A fine of example of storytelling within its medium prowess"


That being I agree with GS completely Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best I have ever played.

hd5870corei7

i couldn't care less what gamespot scored it at, it's most definitely not a 10.

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#20 chucholucho
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The epicness that was intentioned went overboard. Too much bringing back from the dead and useless correlating with the previous installments.

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#21 GreenGoblin2099
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Hideo went out to make a game that was a service for the people that loved the series, but in doing so he got so worked up on making sure that ever plot element was put in that it just stopped being about the central elements of what happened in 4 but rather about having cameos from everyone that once showed their face in the series. designer-

It's because fans demanded an answer to all "loose ends" on the story, and he promised he would deliver those, making the story of this particular chapter so heavy on REALLY needless crap. In a sense, we are to blame those who asked for this and of course Kojima for giving up to those demands just for the sake of making them happy.

After all, it wasn't the first time Kojima tries to please the raging fans: Turning "Raiden" gay in MGS3 was a way to please those who were angered by MGS2.

Kojima lost some of my respect there and like 3 times more with MGS4.

Did I mention the ending was just a pure load of s**t? I feel I have but it needs to be said a few times over. I may sound angry, Im not, its just the MGS was one of the series I kind grew up with. It honestly saddens me just how disappointing the "final" solid snake game was.designer-

Well, we still have Big Boss, which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cooler than Solid Snake IMO.

I was glad to see Kojima making things right with Peace Walker. :)

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#22 omarguy01
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unlike the previous ones (namely 1 and 3) this one has great gameplay but crap story (well mostly the second half).

2 was complete ass though at least 4 is better than that one.

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#23 designer-
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Well, we still have Big Boss, which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cooler than Solid Snake IMO.

I was glad to see Kojima making things right with Peace Walker. :)

GreenGoblin2099

I should give Peace Walker a go I guess. Given Big Bosses presence and the awesomeness that was MGS3 I guess it deserves a second chance..

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#24 BPoole96
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I'll say I disagree with you and leave it at that

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#25 UnknownSniper65
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Horribly overrated,It wasn't a bad game (8.5-9.0 imo) I just didn't think it was the most amazing thing since sliced bread.

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#26 PS2_ROCKS
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No way man. One of my favorite games this gen. I played the game in anticipation of the next cut scene I enjoyed them so much. But then again it takes a certain personality to appreciate these kinds of things.
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#27 ChaltierX
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It's one of the best games that I've played this gen.

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#28 88mphSlayer
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welcome to 2008

back when the game came out i was pretty much as hyped as i'd ever been for a game this gen, MGS4 was one of the biggest reason i bought a PS3 ahead of time in 2007, other than GTA4 i hadn't really been playing many ps3 games for months before it came out, so i bought the MGS collection and replayed all 3 games and timed it so when i finished MGS3 that MGS4 would be available the next week

pre-ordered the limited edition and everything, pretty much didn't have anything to play other than MGS4 for the entire month

aaaaaaaaaaaand i ended up liking/disliking it about 25/75, it annoyed me so much i finally gave in and bought a 360 for Mass Effect and Bioshock the very next month

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#29 Lethalhazard
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I loved MGSIV. However, Kojima could have direly used an editor.
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#30 Scythes777
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I just finished the game a few days ago. Extremely overrated game with its fair share of flaws. I like 1 and 2 much better(havent played 3)

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#31 Stumpt25
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It's easily the best game to come out of this generation. Nothing else comes close.
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#32 AGMing
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I DISRESPECTFULLY disagree with you

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as do i, one of my favorite games.
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#33 chocolate1325
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I found it a joy to play through but the cut scene do drag on.

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#34 mulac2910
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One of the biggest let downs ever for me. I couldn't even sit through the ending and just turned the game off.

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#35 _Judge_Gabranth
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The gameplay is way better then the previous games. The story is the best this gen. I dont get the people who complain about the cutscenes MGS has always been cutscene heavy. Its easily one of the top 1 or 2 games this gen.

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#36 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="designer-"]There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation KHAndAnime

Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.

Uhh.... 2 ended in a cliffhanger (3 was a prequel). 4 was necessary, but I consider it the fluke of the series. 3 is best.

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#37 PAL360
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For me it´s a great 9.0 game. not 10/10 at all

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#38 Deathtransit
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Still one of the best this gen imo, even though as someone else said Kojima needs an editor. One of the most epic games ever. It needs to be played on BBH though to get the full effect.
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#39 jubino
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I bought it when it came out, got bored and sold it. Bought it again just a few weeks ago and to my surprise the game is actually tolerable (I skipped all of the cutscenes :P). The gameplay is fine, but the pacing is some of the worst I've ever seen. I felt like for every minute of gameplay I had to trudge through at least 10 minutes of video.

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#40 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="designer-"]There is a lot of good in MGS4. Sadly its overpowered by a nauseating level of crap. I loved 1 to 3, think MGS3 is honestly right up there with the best of the best. The 4th title was supposedly made for "me" (aka fan service). By the final graveyard scene I was just angry. The finger banging ocelot, the whole "live your life", the overwhelming amount of pure useless additions like Drebins monkey, Meryll and Akibas "love", pretty much anything to do with Ocelot.

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MGS4 is not a bad game, but it was one of very few games I would consider buying a console for. Then I played it. It is honestly my biggest disappointment this generation RandomWinner

Agreed. They should've stopped at 3.

Uhh.... 2 ended in a cliffhanger (3 was a prequel). 4 was necessary, but I consider it the fluke of the series. 3 is best.

The story is better left unfinished. It's not like 4 even tied up all the loose ends anyways.
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#41 djsifer01
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Nice attempt to bash one of the greatest games ever made. MGS4 = perfection.
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#42 Midnightshade29
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Wow... a bunch of lemmings and sheep(almost entire 1st page of thread) bashing MGS4 who would of guessed?

BTW... the game is a masterpiece you sure you were playing the right game?

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#43 Phazevariance
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I just can't force myself to continue playing it. There are so many better PS3 games to play than that overrated game. I'd rather play Little Big Planet, or Uncharted 2 for the 4th playthrough... honestly, even Killzone 2 was more fun.

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#44 88mphSlayer
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Nice attempt to bash one of the greatest games ever made. MGS4 = perfection.djsifer01

what was perfect about it?

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#45 Midnightshade29
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The gameplay is way better then the previous games. The story is the best this gen. I dont get the people who complain about the cut scenes MGS has always been cut scene heavy. Its easily one of the top 1 or 2 games this gen.

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If this game came out last gen or ps1 gen, you would not hear these complaints. For some reason a lot of new gamers this gen seem to hate cut scenes. There have been threads just about people hating cut scenes... I personally love the cutscenses as they blended into gameplay seamlessly. The game was a masterpiece. This thread came about most likely from People saying SMG2 didn't deserve a 10 thread.... my guess anyway.
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#46 designer-
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Wow... a bunch of lemmings and sheep(almost entire 1st page of thread) bashing MGS4 who would of guessed?

BTW... the game is a masterpiece you sure you were playing the right game?

Midnightshade29
Why do you have to be a fanboy if you dislike a game? Thats about the same thing as saying that Im racist if I dont like 50 Cent...
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#47 Mario2007
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Wow... a bunch of lemmings and sheep(almost entire 1st page of thread) bashing MGS4 who would of guessed?

BTW... the game is a masterpiece you sure you were playing the right game?

Midnightshade29
So you can't have an opinion?
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#48 mitu123
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It's not a bad game, it has it's flaws, but to say it's bad is going there, it's a great game.

It isn't the best PS3 game either, that goes to Uncharted 2.

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#50 DroidPhysX
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Wow... a bunch of lemmings and sheep(almost entire 1st page of thread) bashing MGS4 who would of guessed?

BTW... the game is a masterpiece you sure you were playing the right game?

Midnightshade29

Yeah because anyone who disagrees with you is a lemming or a sheep?

On-Topic: I thought MGS4 was terrific. I still didnt beat it yet and its already one of my favorite games