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#1 Blazed
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It's been way too long since I've had this much fun with a kart racer. I think it's better than Mario Kart- it certainly requires more skill. You can definitely tell SEGA had some of their best racing minds on the task. There's not a bad track of the 24 available and the drifting is incredibly well implemented. The Monkey Ball tracks are insane!

I wen't into this bias (huge Mario Kart fan) but it really is the better kart racer. Also, the final game is much better in terms of framerate. Just thought I'd clear that up.

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#2 jimmarko21876
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I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

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#3 slvrraven9
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i love mario kart but i havent played this yet. i soooo want to get it though. what makes the monkeyball tracks so insane? do they tilt like they did in the monkeyball game?
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TC, I thought so to, just my opinion. I was happy to have a Mario Kart racer that didn't have the "rubber band" effect. Basically you get your butt handed to you if you screw up, like Mario Kart on the SNES. I love Mario Kart, but it is takes an equal amount of skill and luck.
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#5 MobilechicaneX
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From playing the demo this game is better than mario kart in everyway possible, Visualy stunning, great fanservice for sega fans of all kind, Good ai, great sound/music and just a better game overall, im getting the 360 version as soon as i can.

Unfortunatly this is system wars and in system wars anything sonic is automatically bad and hated so most people will say MK.

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#6 thecreechxxx
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Yeah, most people are going to forget about this one because it is sonic. I almost did, but decided to play the demo. Once I did, I was hooked.
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#7 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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This is the only game I have ever bought solely because of the demo. I was not even aware this game existed till I played the demo and immediately ordered it from Amazon. It does nothing different than Mario Kart, and the Karts aren't really varied, and don't feel too different from one another, but a solid Kart Racer no doubt. Had a ton of fun with this one. I just wish there was more to do with the Grand Prix after you beat it on advanced, like a mirror mode or something. Can;t wait for DLC!!
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#9 Valiant_Rebel
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I like both racers a lot, but I'm going to have to give it to Sonic on this one. I really like how tight the controls are. Once you get the feel of the controls, the game plays smoothly. I also like the stages and pacing more than Mario Kart.

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#10 osan0
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ive only played the demo. id probably rate it higher than mario kart wii (which i thought was dissapointing) but against MKDS...not so good. a solid racer though and overall its good fun. thanklfully no blue shells either :). certainly the best non mario kart mario kart.
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#11 NTSC-U
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Both are great kart racers imo.
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#12 Blazed
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I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

jimmarko21876

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

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#13 Flipyap28
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Good to see that it sounds like this sega kart racers has got some good user feedback, maybe worth a try. I have always found that it is so hard for other kart racers to live up to mario kart simply because they dont have Mario in it...
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[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Blazed

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Because its not the boring overused plumber...
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[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Blazed

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Deeper than Mario Kart? Come on, we are comparing arcade kart racers. These games arent meant to have any depth, and if you buy a kart racer looking for some, youre going to be disappointed with either game. Requires more skill. Right. I enjoy both games thoroughly, there arent enough arcade racers like this in my opinion. Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing has a really nice drift and trick mechanic, the graphics are superb, and the tracks are excellently designed. I would wish for a bit more variety, though. The game relies far too much on Sonic, but it is a lot better than SEGA Tennis. I have the full game, and I still notice framerate drops, which can get very tiresome very quickly. Mario Kart has the advantage of being silky smooth at all times, though that is probably it. The games could merge into one and would work without much compromise.
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#16 Half-Way
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i guess its great for people who dont own a wii

but if you do own a wii, better get mario kart

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#17 jimmarko21876
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[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Blazed

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

First, could you point to the direction in my post where I said it was inferior? Second, it only has better graphics because it's now on the HD consoles as well. Mario Kart on Wii looks better and plays smoother than the Wii version of this game. I am currently playing it on 360, like I said in my first post, I haven't played it enough to accurately compare the 2, but as of right now "I" enjoy Mario Kart more. No need to be so butt hurt because someone doesn't share the same opinion as you,
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#18 jimmarko21876
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[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Birdy09

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Because its not the boring overused plumber...

Yep, since this is the first time we seen Sonic in quite some time!! /sarcasm

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[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Birdy09

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Because its not the boring overused plumber...

actually i think people are picking sonic BECAUSE there is no mario. Shallowness goes both ways.
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#20 chocolate1325
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Mario Kart wins for me because its multiplayer is superior in almost everyway. Its online is not that good and the commentator is really annoying and basically it is a clone of Mario Kart and it virtually copyed it but it did it well but it ain't a Mario Kart beater in my opinion.

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#21 Blazed
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[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

eveileb-ekam

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Deeper than Mario Kart? Come on, we are comparing arcade kart racers. These games arent meant to have any depth, and if you buy a kart racer looking for some, youre going to be disappointed with either game. Requires more skill. Right. I enjoy both games thoroughly, there arent enough arcade racers like this in my opinion. Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing has a really nice drift and trick mechanic, the graphics are superb, and the tracks are excellently designed. I would wish for a bit more variety, though. The game relies far too much on Sonic, but it is a lot better than SEGA Tennis. I have the full game, and I still notice framerate drops, which can get very tiresome very quickly. Mario Kart has the advantage of being silky smooth at all times, though that is probably it. The games could merge into one and would work without much compromise.

Actually, It does require more skill seeing as it isn't based around luck and rubberband AI.;) I don't look for depth in kart racers but if it's there I give it a mention. Both are fun kart racers but Sega did a better job imo. Tracks are varied...streets, jungles, casino's, islands etc., not much of anything missing, I disagree there.

I agree MK is smoother but framerate isn't too bad, not enough to give it a mention though, it may be your console.

In all honesty a new Diddy Kong Racing is way over do. It had free roam, planes and water vehicles. I think we can both agree on this one

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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="Blazed"]

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Blazed

Deeper than Mario Kart? Come on, we are comparing arcade kart racers. These games arent meant to have any depth, and if you buy a kart racer looking for some, youre going to be disappointed with either game. Requires more skill. Right. I enjoy both games thoroughly, there arent enough arcade racers like this in my opinion. Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing has a really nice drift and trick mechanic, the graphics are superb, and the tracks are excellently designed. I would wish for a bit more variety, though. The game relies far too much on Sonic, but it is a lot better than SEGA Tennis. I have the full game, and I still notice framerate drops, which can get very tiresome very quickly. Mario Kart has the advantage of being silky smooth at all times, though that is probably it. The games could merge into one and would work without much compromise.

Actually, It does require more skill seeing as it isn't based around luck and rubberband AI.;) I don't look for depth in kart racers but if it's there I give it a mention. Both are fun kart racers but Sega did a better job imo. Tracks are varied...streets, jungles, casino's, islands etc., not much of anything missing, I disagree there.

I agree MK is smoother but framerate isn't too bad, not enough to give it a mention though, it may be your console.

In all honesty a new Diddy Kong Racing is way over do. It had free roam, planes and water vehicles. I think we can both agree on this one

I doubt its my console thats causing the framerate drops. But god yes, a new Diddy Kong Racing would be excellent. A shame it wont happen :( Maybe we can get a spiritual successor sometime
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The game is really this Good!?!?! Gotta try the demo. :)
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Mario Kart is a true classic series and blows Sega All Stars Racing out of the water.

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#25 Metalscarz
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I played both the 360 and wii versions. Got it on Wii despite graphics because my 7 year old who wanted the game prefers to use the steering wheel. Fun enough. Mario Kart is more fun though. Especially the online. Lobbies only and waiting for a host to start the race was a mistake. The easy no frills matchmaking on MKWii should have been adopted along with the rest of the MK formula.

And the game DOES have rubberband AI. It's even set ON by default. But you can turn it off. But then the game is to easy.

I'd wager that this wont get nearly the overall playtime as MKWii does in my house, but makes for a nice alternate from time to time.

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Mario Kart has always had great music and would put this Sega game to shame.

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#27 Theguy56
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Mario Kart has always had great music and would put this Sega game to shame.

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With a username as reliable as that, it's hard to argue. I love both equally.
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#28 SaltyMeatballs
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I haven't played MK Wii, but I have played the DS version and SEGA racing. MK DS is better. SEGA racing is good but the tracks feel short. It's a good substitution for those who can't play MK, and it's nice to have a Kart racing game in HD. SEGA racing relies too much on boosting and it gives you too many places to do so. You can't hop; to me this was a chance missed to add another level to the gameplay. Great game though, I am enjoying it a lot.

[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"]

I think it is a great option for people that don't own a Wii. I personally enjoy Mario Kart much more, but I haven't played Sega Racing nearly enough to give it an accurate comparison.

Blazed

It's deeper than Mario Kart, no rubberband AI, requires more skill, better graphics and it behaves just slightly differently for each character. How is it inferior?:?

Requires less skill IMO, though there are some tracks with crazy corner.
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#29 sonicthemegaman
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I tolerate All-Star Racing simply because it's not as frustrating as Mario Kart. Can't say kart racing is really my thing though, I do like the idea of playing All-Stars online.
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#30 chocolate1325
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Mario Kart is a big part of the Nintendo franchise it is one of the big games Nintendo owners wait for every console. While Mario Kart Wii was not the best it had awesome multiplayer.

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sonic all star is fun and a good kart racing game but not better then mario kart i have yet to see a kart racing game better then mario kart

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#32 LegatoSkyheart
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Mario Kart wins because Sonic doesn't need to be in a Car.

Although Sega AllStars Racing looks fun.

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#33 gamefan67
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Now when people say Sonic and Sega All stars vs Mario Kart are they talking about the Mario Kart series or just Mario Kart Wii? Because no cart Racing game beats Mario Kart 64:P Crash Team Racing comes close and Diddy Kong Racing does not count since it is more than just a cart racer:P
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#34 dark-warmachine
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I play the demo, and I wasn't too fond of it. It reminded me too much of the awful driving section in Sonic Adventure 1. Anyway, I wish it were more like Crash Team Racing, which wasnot too fruity lookinglike the Mario Kart series.

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Crash Team Racing came closest to knocking Mario off his karting thrown. To bad the sequels sucked though like Crash Tag Team Racing.

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I own both games, and while Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing is really good, I prefer Mario Kart Wii. The straightforward gameplay of Sonic Racing is good, fast, and easy to pick up, but the technical aspect of Mario Kart Wii is just a lot more durable. The online mode has a bit more depth as well, at least when you compare the Wii versions. I'm also disappointed about the lack of customisability. For as far as I know, there's no possibility to customise cups, and no possibility to team up with other races. Apart from that, though, it's a very solid game, and probably my third favourite kart game after Mario Kart Wii and Diddy Kong Racing (although it may be up to par with Crash Nitro Kart). I also wrote a user review for it btw. :)

It's been way too long since I've had this much fun with a kart racer. I think it's better than Mario Kart- it certainly requires more skillBlazed

I disagree. I thought it was ridiculously easy. The drifting can be mastered in 10 minutes and I beat all the cups on expert the second day I had it. Today I finished beating all the missions with an AAA rating. Moreover, most of the online races aren't even a challenge.

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im not a fan of sega characters, but i would give this game a try. it wont be as successful as mario kart, but its a decent contender to the series.
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#38 ferrarimanf355
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TC, I thought so to, just my opinion. I was happy to have a Mario Kart racer that didn't have the "rubber band" effect. Basically you get your butt handed to you if you screw up, like Mario Kart on the SNES. I love Mario Kart, but it is takes an equal amount of skill and luck. thecreechxxx

Plus, SASASR has no blue shell type weapon. :D

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I disagree. I thought it was ridiculously easy. The drifting can be mastered in 10 minutes and I beat all the cups on expert the second day I had it. Today I finished beating all the missions with an AAA rating. Moreover, most of the online races aren't even a challenge.DraugenCP
It is pretty easy. I wanted more with the grand Prix but I had beaten it on all difficulty levels in two days and only lost a handfull of races. I've done all the time trials, on Billy Hatchers Lava Track I was number 8 on the PS3, though I'm sure I got knocked down some over the night, almost all tracks I was in the top 100 using Amigo.
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Crash Team Racing came closest to knocking Mario off his karting thrown. To bad the sequels sucked though like Crash Tag Team Racing.

chocolate1325

While Crash Team Racing was a great game, it was still nowhere near as good as Diddy Kong Racing imo. Mario Kart 64 was a pretty mediocre game in retrospect, so I'll credit CTR with surpassing that game by a lot. As for its sequels, I thought Crash Nitro Kart was way better than Team Racing, and I still consider it one of the most solid and fun kart racing games ever made.

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#41 Darth_DuMas
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I'm impressed at the reaction Sonic Racing has gotten. It's come from no where. I presumed this was some shovelware game before the review and it's really turned into something. I'll check out the demo in the next few days.

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#42 Willy105
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I'm impressed at the reaction Sonic Racing has gotten. It's come from no where. I presumed this was some shovelware game before the review and it's really turned into something. I'll check out the demo in the next few days.

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#43 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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I'm impressed at the reaction Sonic Racing has gotten. It's come from no where. I presumed this was some shovelware game before the review and it's really turned into something. I'll check out the demo in the next few days.

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Honestly I was too. I wasnt even aware of the game until I saw the Demo in PSN. After playing the demo with one track and two racer for what ended up being an hour and a half I figured I just may as well get the game. I wasn;t disappointed. It's no Epic platform anchoring game, but fun none the less!!
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#44 JLF1
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This is hard for me too choose.

They actually play rather different in some key areas. I've found it really easy to play Mario Kart: Wii and then play Sega All Star Racing without the feeling that I'm playing the same game again with a different coat of paint.

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#45 DraugenCP
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This is hard for me too choose.

They actually play rather different in some key areas. I've found it really easy to play Mario Kart: Wii and then play Sega All Star Racing without the feeling that I'm playing the same game again with a different coat of paint.

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Yeah, I just went back to Mario Kart Wii, and I actually had to get used to it again.

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#46 Cherokee_Jack
Member since 2008 • 32198 Posts
Well, one of them has fricking Alex Kidd. I mean, name a single feature from Mario Kart that's better than that.
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#47 DraugenCP
Member since 2006 • 8486 Posts

Well, one of them has fricking Alex Kidd. I mean, name a single feature from Mario Kart that's better than that.Cherokee_Jack

Having Bowser, for one. :)

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#48 SaltyMeatballs
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This game got old fast for me, I regret my purchase. Didn't expect the racing to be 99% drifting and boosting. Extremely repetitive, and no one online has challenged me yet. I keep winning. If it wasn't for the split screen I would have sold it by now.
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#49 racing1750
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I would have bought if, had i actually won a race :P i kept coming 5th place.
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#50 ImageChef
Member since 2010 • 163 Posts
Mario Kart Wii is just plain meh and Sonic is slightly fun for a bit.