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#1 insanejedi
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It's a very niche game just because of it's overall violance, and i've played games like Condemmed without having any real problems stomaching it, but Madworld looks i dunno... Sadistic and cruel like a Manhunt. The casual audience is probebly not going to pick this up for the same reason even if they are into GTA and Gears of War. This is all very ironic considering the sterotypical Wii=kiddy status but i dont think even the hardcore crowd will really be into the extreame grotesque violance. I mean sure i'll chainsaw a dude in half, but i dont wanna execute people in cruel and sadistic ways while hearing them scream and drown out in their own blood.
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#2 web966
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It wont sell well at all, but it could be a great game
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#3 Vandalvideo
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Mad World will* tank because its not getting widespread coverage from Nintendo.
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no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.
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no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.WillieBeamish

its sin city style.

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#6 insanejedi
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Well how well did Manhunt sell? It didin't even break 1 million on the PS2, Xbox and PC. And i dont think Manhunt 2 did any better, and now your only putting it on a system that only has about 25 million people and most of them are casuals... hu?
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#7 m_machine024
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I think Condemned and Manhunt look more realistic and that MadWorld looks funny, like funny kind of violence.
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#8 Trelaf_TheWise
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It will tank because only core wii owners will try it out, and that's what? like 100K people excluding the core gamers who'll dismiss it because it's too gory or doesn't have nintendo characters?
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[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.TAKE_IT_BACK

its sin city style.

Uhhhh NO. This is a far cry from anything close to Sin City. This is black and white crap masquerading as some kind of OMG-TEH-STYLIZED-AWESOMENEZZ which it isn't. The game doesn't look REMOTELY interesting. People are getting all wound up because its an ultra-violent game where you can stab people in the face, on a kiddy console. Sorry, gratuitous violence doesn't work in Gears (they scrubbed the move where you could beat someone to death with their own arm), it sure as hell isn't going to work on a lousy looking wii game.

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#10 Nintendo_Ownes7
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It will tank just because it is going to be so awesome like Clovers other games but people would be put off by the look of this game. I know it is made by Platinum Games but they used to be Clover.
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I was thinking about getting a Wii at somepoint so I could play it aswell as a few other upcoming Wii games.
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Well how well did Manhunt sell? It didin't even break 1 million on the PS2, Xbox and PC. And i dont think Manhunt 2 did any better, and now your only putting it on a system that only has about 25 million people and most of them are casuals... hu?insanejedi

MadWorld is taking the sadistic humorous violence path; which is to say it trys to make its violence funny. But its true the blood could be a turnoff.

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#13 air_wolf_cubed
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Mad World will* tank because its not getting widespread coverage from Nintendo.Vandalvideo
um thats Sega's job
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It will flop in sales because it's a niche game in Wii's audience, look at No More Heroes, that game was pretty well recieved, and it tanked at retail, I expect the same fate with this game.
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When I heard all the hype on some of the gaming sites, I was like, "Wow, a wii game I might actually consider purchasing!" Then after watching the videos, I thought that this was nothing more than an extremely weak XBL Arcade game based on absolutely nothing but pure violence. Sorry, that's worse than a comedian who people think is funny because he does nothing but use four letter words.

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#16 air_wolf_cubed
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It will flop in sales because it's a niche game in Wii's audience, look at No More Heroes, that game was pretty well recieved, and it tanked at retail, I expect the same fate with this game.lantus
No More Heroes wasnt advertised. I hope this game is
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.WillieBeamish

its sin city style.

Uhhhh NO. This is a far cry from anything close to Sin City. This is black and white crap masquerading as some kind of OMG-TEH-STYLIZED-AWESOMENEZZ which it isn't. The game doesn't look REMOTELY interesting. People are getting all wound up because its an ultra-violent game where you can stab people in the face, on a kiddy console. Sorry, gratuitous violence doesn't work in Gears (they scrubbed the move where you could beat someone to death with their own arm), it sure as hell isn't going to work on a lousy looking wii game.

the developer has said in interviews that sin city influenced the art design.

wait a second why am i arguing with you? you are a known wii hater fanboy, and i don't think anyone listens to you.

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It's a very niche game just because of it's overall violance, and i've played games like Condemmed without having any real problems stomaching it, but Madworld looks i dunno... Sadistic and cruel like a Manhunt. The casual audience is probebly not going to pick this up for the same reason even if they are into GTA and Gears of War. This is all very ironic considering the sterotypical Wii=kiddy status but i dont think even the hardcore crowd will really be into the extreame grotesque violance. I mean sure i'll chainsaw a dude in half, but i dont wanna execute people in cruel and sadistic ways while hearing them scream and drown out in their own blood.insanejedi

The tone from videos so far would suggest the opposite not to mention the kills are about as comical and realistic as a fatality from Mortal Kombat.

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#19 HarlockJC
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It will flop in sales because it's a niche game in Wii's audience, look at No More Heroes, that game was pretty well recieved, and it tanked at retail, I expect the same fate with this game.lantus

Ubisoft has already stated that No More Hero's sold better than expected. Not every game has to be a million seller.

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#20 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.WillieBeamish

its sin city style.

Uhhhh NO. This is a far cry from anything close to Sin City. This is black and white crap masquerading as some kind of OMG-TEH-STYLIZED-AWESOMENEZZ which it isn't. The game doesn't look REMOTELY interesting. People are getting all wound up because its an ultra-violent game where you can stab people in the face, on a kiddy console. Sorry, gratuitous violence doesn't work in Gears (they scrubbed the move where you could beat someone to death with their own arm), it sure as hell isn't going to work on a lousy looking wii game.

I know and have read almost every Frank Miller comic even comics he has recommended like Lone Wolf and Cub. If you don't see the Sin City like aspects of this game then you may want to even go back and read them again.

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When I heard all the hype on some of the gaming sites, I was like, "Wow, a wii game I might actually consider purchasing!" Then after watching the videos, I thought that this was nothing more than an extremely weak XBL Arcade game based on absolutely nothing but pure violence. Sorry, that's worse than a comedian who people think is funny because he does nothing but use four letter words.

WillieBeamish
My thoughts exactly.
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I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

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My guess is that it will sell atleast better than Okami did (on both Wii and PS2). It doesn't look that violent actually, it really just seems like an arcade style beat-em-up with lots of cartoon blood everywhere.

My guess is that it's sales will depend on how many hardcore games surround it's launch. There are a decent amount of Wii owners that will buy this game, but for sales to really take off, there needs to be more reasons for the average hardcore gamer to recognize Wii.

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I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

angelkimne
that sounds like damage control
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#25 air_wolf_cubed
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My guess is that it will sell atleast better than Okami did (on both Wii and PS2). It doesn't look that violent actually, it really just seems like an arcade style beat-em-up with lots of cartoon blood everywhere.

My guess is that it's sales will depend on how many hardcore games surround it's launch. There are a decent amount of Wii owners that will buy this game, but for sales to really take off, there needs to be more reasons for the average hardcore gamer to recognize Wii.

TacoJelly
and advertising....
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#26 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

air_wolf_cubed

that sounds like damage control

Do you think i really care about the sales.

I'm just pointing out that this game is more aquainted with the 360/Ps3 library than Wii, and will do worse than it would of on 360 (maybe not Ps3).

For example worldwide CoD 3 has sold around 0.37 Million on Wii, but 2.07 on 360 according too VGChartz.

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imo it looks completely stupid but it could be a good game.
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#28 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

angelkimne

that sounds like damage control

Do you think i really care about the sales.

I'm just pointing out that this game is more aquainted with the 360/Ps3 library than Wii, and will do worse than it would of on 360 (maybe not Ps3).

For example worldwide CoD 3 has sold around 0.37 Million on Wii, but 2.07 on 360 according too VGChartz.

Thats not a good Example the Wii version of Call of Duty 3 sucked the 360 version was great.
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The game is not going to tank because its violence its because Sega is so stupid they wont advertise and support one of the best upcoming games in their lineup.
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#30 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

angelkimne

that sounds like damage control

Do you think i really care about the sales.

I'm just pointing out that this game is more aquainted with the 360/Ps3 library than Wii, and will do worse than it would of on 360 (maybe not Ps3).

For example worldwide CoD 3 has sold around 0.37 Million on Wii, but 2.07 on 360 according too VGChartz.

still both RE games sold over a million. Those are more comparable to Madworld than CoD3
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#31 air_wolf_cubed
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The game is not going to tank because its violence its because Sega is so stupid they wont advertise and support one of the best upcoming games in their lineup.demontium
Im more trusted to Sega advertising than Ubisoft (NMH)
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#32 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

Nintendo_Ownes7

that sounds like damage control

Do you think i really care about the sales.

I'm just pointing out that this game is more aquainted with the 360/Ps3 library than Wii, and will do worse than it would of on 360 (maybe not Ps3).

For example worldwide CoD 3 has sold around 0.37 Million on Wii, but 2.07 on 360 according too VGChartz.

Thats not a good Example the Wii version of Call of Duty 3 sucked the 360 version was great.

Well then we could compare No More Heroes to any violent 360 game you like, and you can pretty much guarantee that the 360 game sold more...

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#33 TacoJelly
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I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

angelkimne

It might, but it might not.

Consider this, it's rediculously cheaper to develop for Wii, that means less cost to recoup before profit is made. Throw in the fact that it is a very stylized title without an established franchise, who is to say it would sell well on any platform.

Atleast by making it on Wii, it's easier to stand out among the crowd, compared to something like the 360 where lots of games are created in this vain.

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#34 demontium
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

I can't help but thinking this would do so much better as a PC/Ps3/PC multiplat.

Or on anyone of those platforms by there own, 'part from maybe PC.

angelkimne

that sounds like damage control

Do you think i really care about the sales.

I'm just pointing out that this game is more aquainted with the 360/Ps3 library than Wii, and will do worse than it would of on 360 (maybe not Ps3).

For example worldwide CoD 3 has sold around 0.37 Million on Wii, but 2.07 on 360 according too VGChartz.

Thats not a good Example the Wii version of Call of Duty 3 sucked the 360 version was great.

Well then we could compare No More Heroes to any violent 360 game you like, and you can pretty much guarantee that the 360 game sold more...

how about you observe with some common sense. 360 games like that are advertised and well known. Its much harder on Wii because companies have a fixed view of what can and cant sell on it.

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#35 Krigon
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Mad world needs to be ported to the PSN/XBL :P
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#36 legend26
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it will sell becouse jack tohmpson willl see it and get his panties up in a bunch, then go on fox news and complain, then the game will get more publicity and kids will gobble it up
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i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and gore
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#38 TacoJelly
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[QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

My guess is that it will sell atleast better than Okami did (on both Wii and PS2). It doesn't look that violent actually, it really just seems like an arcade style beat-em-up with lots of cartoon blood everywhere.

My guess is that it's sales will depend on how many hardcore games surround it's launch. There are a decent amount of Wii owners that will buy this game, but for sales to really take off, there needs to be more reasons for the average hardcore gamer to recognize Wii.

air_wolf_cubed

and advertising....

Yes and No.

Everything sells better when it has a good ad campaign there's no doubting that. However, the majority of the sales for this game will come initially from us, the forum using, game website reading, hardcore gamers... most of us know about this game. Then there is word of mouth, non-hardcore gamers come over and play our version and word spreads.

Course, NMH tanked and that game was awesome... i just don't know anymore

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#39 air_wolf_cubed
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i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreredmetal86
you act as if the game wont have any depth or varrious goals. You dont just run around and play Man Darts
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#40 TacoJelly
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i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreredmetal86

Lets give the developer some credit. This is more or less the remains of Clover studios, and to my knowledge they have yet to make a single mediocre game, let alone a bad one.

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#41 redmetal86
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[QUOTE="redmetal86"]i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreair_wolf_cubed
you act as if the game wont have any depth or varrious goals. You dont just run around and play Man Darts

mortal kombat had a goal. yet i still think it was average. and im sure someone would say mortal kombat had depth. someone.........

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#42 Krigon
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[QUOTE="redmetal86"]i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreTacoJelly

Lets give the developer some credit. This is more or less the remains of Clover studios, and to my knowledge they have yet to make a single mediocre game, let alone a bad one.

God Hand is mediocre in my opinion.

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#43 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="redmetal86"]i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreredmetal86

you act as if the game wont have any depth or varrious goals. You dont just run around and play Man Darts

mortal kombat had a goal. yet i still think it was average. and im sure someone would say mortal kombat had depth. someone.........

Well this isnt a fighter like Mortal Kombat. You get to explore and you have more than one enemy. Dont compare this to a fighter
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#44 redmetal86
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[QUOTE="redmetal86"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="redmetal86"]i kinda see it having the mortal kombat effect. when you first play it, its like "omg look at these bloody fatalities!" then after a while it gets old, and you realize that youre just playing an average fighting game, and begin to wonder would you have bought it if not for the blood and goreair_wolf_cubed

you act as if the game wont have any depth or varrious goals. You dont just run around and play Man Darts

mortal kombat had a goal. yet i still think it was average. and im sure someone would say mortal kombat had depth. someone.........

Well this isnt a fighter like Mortal Kombat. You get to explore and you have more than one enemy. Dont compare this to a fighter

explore what? we dont even know if this is going to be linear or not. if it is, there wont be a lot to explore. also, i can still compare this to a fighter in one way, the mortal kombat way. will the novelty of blood and gruesome killing wear off like it did in mortal kombat? who knows, but i could see it happening.

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#45 Hexagon_777
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Funny how the Wii gets all the games that are too violent (Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, Mad World) and is still viewed as kiddy. Have the PS3 or the 360 gotten any of these games that are over the top violent? I want to see if there are any more games of the like to see what share the Wii has gotten.
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MadWorld will probably "tank" because of its lack of advertisement from Nintendo or the developer themselves,just like many Wii games before it.Quite a shame...
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#47 air_wolf_cubed
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MadWorld will probably "tank" because of its lack of advertisement from Nintendo or the developer themselves,just like many Wii games before it.Quite a shame...VGobbsesser
Neither the developer nor Nintendo have the job to advertise it. Its Sega's (the publisher) job to advertise it
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#48 Rahnyc4
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wii games without advertisement are more likely to sell better than ps3/xbox 360 advertisment. a game is likely to sell as long as its being advertised. i love how people trying to figure out why wii games dont sell, its a reason why.

no more heroes
resident evil umbrella chronicles
resident evil 4

all sell real well for games that had zero advertisement. word of mouth is what sold these games. This game will be the same situation.
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#49 TDLlama
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If Madworld is heavily advertised, it will sell. Remember when Red Steel came out? Those lousy commercials? It still sold a million copies.

If they forget to advertise Madworld, it'll be another No More Heroes scenario... it will sell enough.

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#50 Saturos3091
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no, it'll tank because it looks like crap. I swear, NOBODY wants to push the Wii's graphics in the least. Hey, I can handle 480p fine, but when half the Wii's game barely match up to Gamecube's games in terms of graphics, I'm sorry but that's plain shovelware laziness.WillieBeamish


I think it looks fine, especially when compared with the trash that's getting released constantly these days.

The game from what we've seen, seems to match Okami in quality. Should it be better? Or should they work on stylizing the effects more? It's up for them to decide. I do like the stylized effects quite a bit, the look of the rain dripping from the environment and the blood splatters all exude an almost comic-like feel, which is what the game is aiming for.