Lionhead: ''All games are on rails''. :D

Lionhead Studios creative director Gary Carr has said that ?every single game is on-rails? while defending the decision to keep the same control scheme that drew so much criticism towards Fable: The Journey at E3 2011.

Nobody gives a quote quite like Molyneux, but his Lionhead replacement and Fable: The Journey creative director Gary Carr is doing his very best to emulate the Brit, claiming that ?every single game is on-rails?, because you?re always pressing buttons in a certain order to get a result.

?It?s interesting you say that,? said Carr when asked about people?s preconceptions of on-rails games by CVG. ?Every single game is on-rails. I can score a fantastic goal on FIFA if I press certain buttons in the right order at the right time, that?s the rails bit.

?Peter?s [post-E3] on-rails rant, if we should call it that, was him trying to hit back at the criticisms saying that it wasn?t on-rails. I think, if we had done this again, we would have just said, yeah, it?s on rails.

?The truth is, we were actually close to killing that E3 demo, but some of the team tried to revive it. We did come back from E3 [2011] with some people saying, we?re doing something wrong here. We need to change course. Ultimately, the decision was, keep the faith. On-rails is actually necessary to make the game work really well. We are building a story-based game, a well-crafted world, a powerful narrative, a beautiful looking game. All our money is going into that. We are not messing with alternative control schemes any more.?

The sting of that E3 showing still seems to be hurting Lionhead, and there?s certainly very little excitement surrounding the upcoming Fable game ? largely because of the fact that, yes, it is a Kinect game on-rails. Carr?s argument that every game is essentially on-rails may be technically correct (in a very, very loose sense), but it really sounds as though he?s clutching at straws to justify the decision, and that the studio clearly lost confidence in at some point along the line, even if they eventually decided to stick with it.

Epic Lionhead damage control, pre Fable Journey.

I haven't seen damage control like this since Emily Rogers when her Retro Studios rumor got debunked.

they should just cancel that game. You can tell Lionhead them selves dont even want to put that crap outNengo_Flow

every game besides a open world is on rails... BUT nothing like the next fable lol.

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]they should just cancel that game. You can tell Lionhead them selves dont even want to put that crap outcainetao11

They are REALLY stretching the term of "on rails". Has Lionhead ever made a good game this gen? Fable is too easy and too short, not worth paying full price for. Molyneux my be gone, but he's still full of sh!t with his "$50,000 DLC Virtual Ice Pick" thing.

Fable The Journey was on rails, I remember Molyneux said it had exploration, but that's obviously not true. I wonder how good this game will work with Kinect considering it has input lag.

So if every game is on rails, shouldnt a real creative developer that strives to innovate with their games try to break the mould?

Lionhead Studios creative director Gary Carr has said that ?every single game is on-rails? while defending the decision to keep the same control scheme that drew so much criticism towards Fable: The Journey at E3 2011.

Nobody gives a quote quite like Molyneux, but his Lionhead replacement and Fable: The Journey creative director Gary Carr is doing his very best to emulate the Brit, claiming that ?every single game is on-rails?, because you?re always pressing buttons in a certain order to get a result.

?It?s interesting you say that,? said Carr when asked about people?s preconceptions of on-rails games by CVG. ?Every single game is on-rails. I can score a fantastic goal on FIFA if I press certain buttons in the right order at the right time, that?s the rails bit.

?Peter?s [post-E3] on-rails rant, if we should call it that, was him trying to hit back at the criticisms saying that it wasn?t on-rails. I think, if we had done this again, we would have just said, yeah, it?s on rails.

?The truth is, we were actually close to killing that E3 demo, but some of the team tried to revive it. We did come back from E3 [2011] with some people saying, we?re doing something wrong here. We need to change course. Ultimately, the decision was, keep the faith. On-rails is actually necessary to make the game work really well. We are building a story-based game, a well-crafted world, a powerful narrative, a beautiful looking game. All our money is going into that. We are not messing with alternative control schemes any more.?

The sting of that E3 showing still seems to be hurting Lionhead, and there?s certainly very little excitement surrounding the upcoming Fable game ? largely because of the fact that, yes, it is a Kinect game on-rails. Carr?s argument that every game is essentially on-rails may be technically correct (in a very, very loose sense), but it really sounds as though he?s clutching at straws to justify the decision, and that the studio clearly lost confidence in at some point along the line, even if they eventually decided to stick with it. BibiMaghoo

Epic Lionhead damage control, pre Fable Journey.

They are REALLY stretching the term of "on rails". Has Lionhead ever made a good game this gen? Fable is too easy and too short, not worth paying full price for. Molyneux my be gone, but he's still full of sh!t with his "$50,000 DLC Virtual Ice Pick" thing.

Fable The Journey was on rails, I remember Molyneux said it had exploration, but that's obviously not true. I wonder how good this game will work with Kinect considering it has input lag.

ShadowMoses900

Carr?s argument that every game is essentially on-rails may be technically correct (in a very, very loose sense),

LoosingENDS? :shock:

at least he admits its on rails and isn't trying to BS it like Peter did. Still LOOOOL, HORSE CARRIAGE SIMULATOR CONFIRMED

to Lionhead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

This man would like to have a word with him:

I don't think so Lionhead.

Minecraft really isn't "on-rails", for example.Theme Park really wasn't "on-rails". Dungeon Keep 2 wasn't "on-rails".

You can't just change the accepted definition of "on-rails" to suit you own needs.

Doesn't work like that.

jeesh

Well duh. Most sucessful games these days are on rails. Call of Duty and God of War are prime examples.

FIFA is on rails? A game that allows you to play as anyone on the field and can switch between people on the fly. Where the game activiely changes according to where the ball is. Thats just terrible.

It's sad to hear that they think Black&White is a 'push a button and win' game.

Well, he has a point, almost all games are on rails because everything that happens is pre-made, scripted, it's not like you can play even something like STALKER and expect something different every time. The only difference in games are the extent of how "scripted" "on rails" it is, Fabel Journey is the epitome of on rails.

Well, he has a point, almost all games are on rails because everything that happens is pre-made, scripted, it's not like you can play even something like STALKER and expect something different every time. The only difference in games are the extent of how "scripted" "on rails" it is, Fabel Journey is the epitome of on rails.

parkurtommo

Well, he has a point.

parkurtommo

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Well, he has a point, almost all games are on rails because everything that happens is pre-made, scripted, it's not like you can play even something like STALKER and expect something different every time. The only difference in games are the extent of how "scripted" "on rails" it is, Fabel Journey is the epitome of on rails.

22Toothpicks

lol

Only a few months ago they were adamant that it was not on rails. Today, every game is on rails :lol: BibiMaghoo

This. Damage control as clear as pure water.

I feel those comments from Lionhead are forced. I'm sure the studio is ashamed they needed to say Fifa is "somewhat" on rails. What a joke.

Not all games are on-rails, generalizations like that just reak of fail. (Kind of like Lionhead)

All games are scripted, sure, but that doesn't excuse your game not even trying to give the illusion of freedom.

On rails games suck.

I don't think so Lionhead.

Minecraft really isn't "on-rails", for example.Theme Park really wasn't "on-rails". Dungeon Keep 2 wasn't "on-rails".

You can't just change the accepted definition of "on-rails" to suit you own needs.

Doesn't work like that.

amaneuvering

Lol!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

What is wrong with him.:lol:

Oh yes, yes, Skyrim is TOTTALLY on rails. :roll:

But seriously, Lionhead, there is a difference between a game being linear and a game being "on rails".

Remember the 90's when Peter Molyneux released amazing games that brought great innovations and oozed creativity? Oh how has the mighty fallen

Only a few months ago they were adamant that it was not on rails. Today, every game is on rails :lol: BibiMaghoo

Molyneux obviously saw the ice berg and jumped ship before **** got real. Ninja-Hippo

no no. the S... got real when he was still there. He just took the last life boat...

If every game is on-rails, then what's the point of calling any game on-rails? Diophantus

FACT: lionhaed is doomed. A sad day. Fable WAS one of my favorit series. I loved its humor...

So if every game is on rails, shouldnt a real creative developer that strives to innovate with their games try to break the mould?

D1zzyCriminal