Left For Dead series is mediocre.

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I do not like the series. I think it was just an excuse to make quick bucks because it didn't take long to develop.

Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Half-Life 3 for that matter would have taken longer and cost more money to develop, but if it was developed during the period (2008-2009 I remember) instead of Left For Dead series, we would be playing it now.

Left For Dead series has nothing that make the HL series so special nor does the level of polish is the same. L4D is not timeless.

:? eh.. disagree.

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I do not like the series. I think it was just an excuse to make quick bucks because it didn't take long to develop.

Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Half-Life 3 for that matter would have taken longer and cost more money to develop, but if it was developed during the period (2008-2009 I remember) instead of Left For Dead series, we would be playing it now.

Left For Dead series has nothing that make the HL series so special nor does the level of polish is the same. L4D is not timeless.

Ravenchrome

i personally loved it. it's one of the best coop games ive ever played! ive always wanted a zombie apocalypse game where the point of the game is to survive with friends and l4d does that exactly! there is nothing i dont like about the game. in fact for me its

L4D > Half Life

Oh wow.

I personally feel that the gameplay style is highly innovative and really satisfying.

Alien Swarm was lovely aswell.

Let's see what Overstrike and that Brothers in Arms aka Inglourious Basterds will offer, since they are L4D clones.

But I think the execution of L4D2 wasn't that good, I didn't like it as much as the first game. The concept and style of gameplay is one of my favorite ones atm, I look forward to more games in this sub genre.

And then you realize like every other valve game, it actually improves as the community gets its hands on the source sdk. Try dL user created content and have 3 other close friends, not some pubbed randoms. The game is a co-op masterpiece

The game is a co-op masterpiece

tutt3r

This X10

L4D > HL (But Episode 2 was fantastic), so I'm glad we got a new series instead of Episode 3.

And then you realize like every other valve game, it actually improves as the community gets its hands on the source sdk. Try dL user created content and have 3 other close friends, not some pubbed randoms. The game is a co-op masterpiece

tutt3r

L4D > HL (But Episode 2 was fantastic), so I'm glad we got a new series instead of Episode 3.

Avian005

It was developed by Turtle Rock studios which Valve bought, so be mad at Valve for no HL3 not L4D, either way the second game only took a year to make and its a cracking series just not for everyone I guess but co-op is second to non.

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L4D > HL (But Episode 2 was fantastic), so I'm glad we got a new series instead of Episode 3.

Ravenchrome

And the level of polish in the L4D games are just fine.

you shield will do nothing vs.. maximum overtrolls..

just saying..

anyway i enjoyed l4d 1 & 2 alot i fail to see what you didnt like TC.. this comes from a guy whos played msot of the great zombie horror games..

resident evil outbreak, code veronica, 4, 0, house of the dead 1, typing of the dead..

i can safely say NOTHING attracted me quite like it (tough i did think that typing of the dead was epic win)

I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

Pug-Nasty

I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

Pug-Nasty

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I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

MrSelf-Destruct

Blog it. It's probably one of the best co-op experiences you can find. DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

Ravenchrome

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Blog it. It's probably one of the best co-op experiences you can find. Ravenchrome

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I'd like to try it out, but only if the SP was worthwhile, since I don't play online on PC.

Ravenchrome

Because it's not a single player game. It's one of the most addictive and fun coop games I've ever played.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Blog it. It's probably one of the best co-op experiences you can find. MrSelf-Destruct

Because it can't be proven that it's bad. It simply is one of the best co-op experiences you can find. If you guys can disprove that, then go ahead, I dare you.

Also, list another FPS game that has a better co-op experience.

I thought both games were decent. Nothing special, really. Fun for a little bit, but they got old quick.Doolz2024

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] Blog? That would probably take me a week.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] "Blog it." Is apparently what people say when they disagree and would prefer you not voice your opinion. :P MrSelf-Destruct

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

This is just your personal opinion so again it should be a blog; I myself have had more fun with the L4D games than any other shooter this gen I think, I do however only ever play it with friends or more often than not family. To say it was released to make quick easy money given the amount of support both games have seen since release is just trolling a company who you must have some respect for seeing as you have a Gordan Freeman avatar, or are we throwing our toys because we still haven't heard any news about HL3? (I agree that is frustrating but its better to wait for something amazing than get HL2.5).

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Because it can't be proven that it's bad. It simply is one of the best co-op experiences you can find. If you guys can disprove that, then go ahead, I dare you. Also, list another game that has a better co-op experience.DragonfireXZ95

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] I haven't played enough of it online to be a judge. Hell, I don't play enough online co-op in anything to have something to compare it to. I just don't get why people always say "blog it" when it's clearly a valid topic. If "blog it" was the answer to every thread without possibility of an objective conclusion then all of System Wars would exist in our blogs. Besides, you say it's one of the best co-op experiences out there. Here's the thread. Elaborate and make your opinion known. Or would you rather comment in his blog?

MrSelf-Destruct

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

Maybe you should blog your opinions about co-op shooters instead of wasting your time on something you know nothing about? :P

Or, instead of arguing with someone who actually has played the game, maybe you should go actually play it with a friend.

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

DragonfireXZ95

Maybe you should blog your opinions about co-op shooters instead of wasting your time on something you know nothing about? :P

Or, instead of arguing with someone who actually has played the game, maybe you should go actually play it with a friend.

People say, blog it, because this is definitely not a System Wars topic. If anything it should go in general games, or better yet, your blog. ocstew

I really liked Left 4 Dead 2

[QUOTE="ocstew"]People say, blog it, because this is definitely not a System Wars topic. If anything it should go in general games, or better yet, your blog. MrSelf-Destruct

Left 4 Dead was a huge miss with me. It felt to me the same way Call of Duty does... juust keeps throwing the same stuff at you non stop so that even if things are "different" (i.e. the AI Director) you couldn't tell because you're ALWAYS having stuff thrown at you.

If mediocre comes with one of the best co-op experiences around then I'll take more of that. This world needs more co-op, especially for campaign modes.

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Because it can't be proven that it's bad. It simply is one of the best co-op experiences you can find. If you guys can disprove that, then go ahead, I dare you. Also, list another game that has a better co-op experience.DragonfireXZ95

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

Left 4 Dead was a huge miss with me. It felt to me the same way Call of Duty does... juust keeps throwing the same stuff at you non stop so that even if things are "different" (i.e. the AI Director) you couldn't tell because you're ALWAYS having stuff thrown at you.

DigitalExile

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] I haven't played enough of it online to be a judge. Hell, I don't play enough online co-op in anything to have something to compare it to. I just don't get why people always say "blog it" when it's clearly a valid topic. If "blog it" was the answer to every thread without possibility of an objective conclusion then all of System Wars would exist in our blogs. Besides, you say it's one of the best co-op experiences out there. Here's the thread. Elaborate and make your opinion known. Or would you rather comment in his blog?

ManicAce

It's a known fact, for people that have actually played the game. This is a completely redundant thread.

I play lots of online co-op with my buds and this one is easily one of the top, especially for the FPS genre.

If you play all of your games alone, then you aren't enjoying gaming to it's fullest. Playing with randoms can also be disheartening at times. This is one of those games.

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

Left 4 Dead was a huge miss with me. It felt to me the same way Call of Duty does... juust keeps throwing the same stuff at you non stop so that even if things are "different" (i.e. the AI Director) you couldn't tell because you're ALWAYS having stuff thrown at you.

DragonfireXZ95

I dunno, just, all the praise Left 4 Dead gets and I look at it and think "Huh?" because I'm just not seeing it. As I said in my first post, if something special, unique, different does happen it's covered up by all the stuff being thrown at you anyway so that it just becomes "one more thing to shoot" and not really anything to stop and think about. That's how I felt anyway. Maybe there's a whole bunch of stuff going on in the background that I missed, I don't know. It just didn't impress me at all. =/

The above applies to the sequel as much as the original.

Desagree. I think it´s the best coop formula in a videogame.