LBP vs. NSMBW

IMO, LBP easily crushes NSMBW.

The R1 grab mechanic adds a whole new dimension to the platforming.

Co-op is actually fun in LBP where it's just frustrating in NSMBW.

The levels are generally designed better.

Local AND online co-op

Going at a super high speed is always a rush of joy.

Sackboy is adorable.

Better graphics (duh)

A MUCH MUCH MUCH better soundtrack.

And that's not even mentioning the level creator

I'm going with LBP hands down, but I admit I've only put in about 2 hours into NSMB Wii while I've Platinum-ed LBP ... I'll give my reasons tomorrow, it's already 2 in the morning here and I have a big test in like 6 hours.

New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

Because?

LBP has better graphics, better sound(imo),4-player online and offline co op, thousands of online FREE levels, robustlevel creator etc.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Dick_Derringer

[QUOTE="Dick_Derringer"][QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....Panosola

New super mario bros wii is a definite ode to super mario bros 3. But in terms of level design it may be the most sporadic game I've ever played. Some worlds are utterly genius (world 7, world 2, world 6), and some worlds have pathetic game design (word 1, world 3). Haunted mansions all sucked and should have been left out. Littlebigplanet was really inconsistent too though. Some levels were genius. India levels were amazing. Same with the south american levels. The graphics were better. Some levels sucked the first 3 levels (where I guess this is why people call it a bad platformer). But I had probably more fun with littlebigplanet than new super mario bros wii.

Dancing koopas are genius and awesome.

LBP is hands down the worst platformer i have ever played. You can't be serious with this.

Little Big Planet's platforming mechanics made it impossible to take seriously as a platforming game; its far too floaty to be precise, whereas NSMB is a true 2D platformer in that the levels are designed for it. LBP's levels are designed to showcase the talent of the authors.

I do love LBP, though, I love what it set out to do, I love the editor and I love the fact you can play online. I wouldnt say it had a better soundtrack than NSMB's though, and I actually prefer the co-op in the latter game.

If you were to amalgamate the two games, you would have (probably) the best 2D platformer ever; both have their strengths and weaknesses. Based on the precision factor alone, though, I would have to give the upper hand to NSMB.

Besides, LBP lags awfully when online, which is why I can appreciate why they left it out in NSMB.

Pure platforming. it's mario by a wide margin. The platforming in LBP is just off LBP just has more going for it overall as a game to make up for that weak platforming though. LBP in this case. jg4xchamp

LBP is a great game, still play it to this day (occasionally)... plan to get the PSP version soon...

However i had the change to see NSMBW in action and looks fun, so i think those into platformers should definately check both titles..

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Pure platforming. it's mario by a wide margin. The platforming in LBP is just off LBP just has more going for it overall as a game to make up for that weak platforming though. LBP in this case. nhh18

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Pure platforming. it's mario by a wide margin. The platforming in LBP is just off LBP just has more going for it overall as a game to make up for that weak platforming though. LBP in this case. jg4xchamp

Platformers really are more dependent on anything their level design imo. Look at new super mario bros ds. It was a terrible platformer. Terrible by far the worst in the series because of level design.

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[QUOTE="nhh18"]this is another thing I hate. Nothing wrong with the platforming in littlebigplanet. It is just that because it was hyped and it wasn't a franchise. I hate this because people who probably say this spent 15 minutes on the game and passed it off as average. Games like this should get more buyers with games like viva pinata, and kameo. The game was hyped through the roof so people expected perfection and be every aspect they love, and end up disappointing a few because they expected it to control like mario instead of littlebigplanet.

nhh18

Platformers really are more dependent on anything their level design imo. Look at new super mario bros ds. It was a terrible platformer. Terrible by far the worst in the series because of level design.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Pure platforming. it's mario by a wide margin. The platforming in LBP is just off LBP just has more going for it overall as a game to make up for that weak platforming though. LBP in this case. nhh18

no doubt mario has more responsive controls but at the end of the day mario is only a piece of the puzzle that is lbp. As the editor and community is the drawcard to lbp

they're both pretty close i think.

NSMBW is the better platformer mechanics, but for me - mostly - i'm riding in nastalgic fumes in order to enjoy it.If Mario ever gives the ability to essentially copy LBP but give it a Mario spin on it. that'd be very interesting. but as usual it seems for the most part Nintendo plays it safe with it's audience. Mario Galaxy was amazing and even has tempted to buy a Wii just for that game, and they're doing it again with Metroid Other M. but this one... eh... if i had enough friends who had a Wii i'd get it. as i can see the camera being less of an issue as it is in LBP.

LBP however, i think has some issues (not many but just a feel more then NSMBW), but the replay value is immense, i could spend days just playing other peoples levels. i've yet to have ever sat down and made my own level - and doubt i i ever will. but i do love some of the levels people have made.

Anyone who is a hardcore platform gamer will LAUGH at LBP. The physics are way too slow and floaty, when you run you don't actually pick up much speed to accelerate.. feels like you're always moving at a constant speed. The level design in mario games is FAR SUPERIOR and better crafted than LBP. If you really want to build levels in NSMBWii there is software out there to do so which is far more customizable than LBP and you can use a PC to make levels without worry of jerks at Sony deleting your levels.

I haven't played NSMBW but it gets my vote, best part of LBP was the music IMO

They're good at different things. Love them both, but if I had to choose one, I'd choose NSMBW. I thought the multi-player was good in NSMBW as well, and the single-player is much better, so I prefer Mario.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]New Super Mario Bros Wii is a lot better.....yanbuco2712

Because?

LBP has better graphics, better sound(imo),4-player online and offline co op, thousands of online FREE levels, robustlevel creator etc.

You mentioned everything but the gampely. The LBP gameplay is just not tight. It's very floaty and it's more of an experience of cool constructions. While some of those FREE levels are good, and it's interesting to see what people have made, it's obvious many of those FREE levels are made by amateuers.

Sometimes you get what you pay for with that the free levels.

They are both good games, but they do offer two entirely different experiences.

As a pure platformer is not hard to beat LBP as a whole game, well that's a VERY different storyGiancar

New Super Mario Bros >>> Little Big Planet, by far and I'll explain why. In a platforming game the most important element is not the graphics, sound or anything else, its the actual platforming mechanics and how the gameplay works. LBP is a great game but as a platformer its actually quite weak, the characters float in the air too much and the jumping is not responsive enough for precision platforming, it just isn't. Also, moving between fields in LBP was poorly executed.

Mario on the other hand nails the platforming perfectly, which is understandable since Nintendo have been making Mario games for over two decades. They know how to make a platforming game and when it comes down to it, no game can match Mario when it comes to platforming gameplay, except maybe Crash 2 :P

Without a doubt LBP is superior in every way. Only reason anyone would say otherwise is if they are obsessed with Mario to the point of bias delusion or if they haven't played LBP. Just for reference I still play Super Mario World SNES all the time.

As far as platforming goes, I find NSMBW to be far better than LBP; the controls are a bit more to my liking, the level designs are top notch (not to say that LBP level design isn't good), and to me, it seems like everything just "clicks".

As far as which is the overall better game, however, that's a bit tougher to call.

The jumping feels off in LBP. That alone makes a plataformer bad.

LBP physics were pretty awesome. This "floaty" nonsense just means "hey LBP is not like other platformers." Kinda reminds me of the KZ2 weighty gun feel. Just because it's not like other games doesn't mean it's bad. Why must everything play the same for people to accept it?Bread_or_Decide

LBP Really wish NSMBW (What a ridiculous title) didn't have hit detection when you're playing co-op with a friend. Dying because of your friend is not fun. Bread_or_Decide

Not my kind of games. They're both sleep inducing.

However, for comparisons sake, i'd say Mario is the better game.

LBP is mostly praised for it's level creator, which i also think is kinda lame, the platforming elements are weak, although the physics involved are impressive.

Mario is a standard, true to tradtion platformer, with more "gameplay" then LBP.

Still, both games suck, imo.

The platforming in LBP is not worse than it is in Mario games, it's just different. And the ability to grab some materials and move things, or swing from things, the way all the different materials have different properties and physics, the contraptions, vehicles, and gizmos you can make, the paint gun... all that equals LBP being a FAR better game than any Mario game, not to mention the creativity and originality vs. Mario's 20 years worth of rehashes. Same game, same characters, same plot. The biggest difference between NSMB and SMB3 is that instead of 1-2 players taking turns, you have 1-4 players playing together (and getting in each others way and knocking each other off platforms). Oh, and if you suck really bad, after enough fails apparently the game takes pity on you and shows you how to beat the stage.

LBP- Gamespot 9.0, Metacritic 95

NSMBW- Gamespot 8.5, Metacritic 87

The platforming in LBP is not worse than it is in Mario games, it's just different. And the ability to grab some materials and move things, or swing from things, the way all the different materials have different properties and physics, the contraptions, vehicles, and gizmos you can make, the paint gun... all that equals LBP being a FAR better game than any Mario game, not to mention the creativity and originality vs. Mario's 20 years worth of rehashes. Same game, same characters, same plot. The biggest difference between NSMB and SMB3 is that instead of 1-2 players taking turns, you have 1-4 players playing together (and getting in each others way and knocking each other off platforms). Oh, and if you suck really bad, after enough fails apparently the game takes pity on you and shows you how to beat the stage.

LBP- Gamespot 9.0, Metacritic 95

NSMBW- Gamespot 8.5, Metacritic 87

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You forgot to say. IMO. Since that wall of text was opinion. Or "fact" based on opinions.

Also, standards change, would LBP have scored so high if it was released after NSMBW??? I doubt it ...