Latest version of Denuvo used in Just Cause 3. Despite Developer saying no to DRM.

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#1  Edited By ABtoxin
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I don't believe it causing any issue in the game since AMD user seem to be dealing with there own issues more so than Nvidia user. MGSV and Mad Max used it and ran pretty well. People are saying Avalanche Studios went on their word when they said no to DRM. However, to my understanding Denuvo is no DRM. Denuvo reminds notoriously difficult to crack and get the game working properly.

Reddit user have said there been no crack for MGSV that works well enough that there isn't any crashing.

https://support.codefusion.technology/justcause3/

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#2 NFJSupreme
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People still care about DRM?

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#3 BlueEyedCasva
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Denuvo isn't a issue why are people still crying over it being in games maybe they are just pirates

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#4 -God-
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The PC version is so much insanely superior that who gives a shit, it's better than waiting 15minutes in load times.

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#5 lundy86_4
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Does this have an adverse effect on the game? If not, then i'm not worried. Call me when it's intrusive enough to impact my gameplay.

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#6 svaubel
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Cant be worse than the SecuROM shit that EA used to use?

That crap and Spore is the reason i havent given EA a dime since.

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#7 LegatoSkyheart
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If a developer truly wished for no DRM for their game they would have released it on GOG.

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#8 Ant_17
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@blueeyedcasva said:

Denuvo isn't a issue why are people still crying over it being in games maybe they are just pirates

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#9  Edited By BlueEyedCasva
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@lundy86_4 said:

Does this have an adverse effect on the game? If not, then i'm not worried. Call me when it's intrusive enough to impact my gameplay.

No it doesn't MGSV had it and it ran damn well

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Should not have lied.

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#11 SaturatedButter
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To my understanding, Denuvo isn't technically DRM. It's anti-tamper software that prevents the DRM in the executable from being modified. So Denuvo is a second layer that goes on top of the DRM. Most pirates will get really salty if you try to point out this distinction.

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#12  Edited By naz99
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JC3 loaded in less than 30 seconds and couldnt connect to squares servers so i clicked the play offliine button and the game loaded and i played it.......

Denuvo is anti tamper software it does not restrict you from playing your legal copy online or offline unlike so many other DRM services What issue is there exactly?

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#14  Edited By GhoX
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@abtoxin: Denuvo is technically not DRM. It's anti-tempering. Even the typically weak-ass Steam DRM becomes uncrackable for months if crackers can't temper with it effectively.

Denuvo by itself is less intrusive than even Steam, and has no side effect whatsoever (all the rumours to the contrary were proven false). There is no visible reason why it shouldn't be more widely adopted by every dev on the planet, so I imagine the only obstacle may be how much Denuvo costs. It is very strong, but not invincible, so to some smaller devs the cost of Denuvo may be higher the additional sales they'd potentially gain from a game that remains uncracked for the first few months.

@blueeyedcasva said:

Denuvo isn't a issue why are people still crying over it being in games maybe they are just pirates

At this point, this and ignorance are the only two possible reasons I can think of. There is simply nothing bad for a consumer when it comes to Denuvo.

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Wow I didn't know MSGV had Denuvo, never noticed anything and thought Steam was the only DRM.

Mad Max also has Denuvo. It's simply super-unintrusive and would not have even been noticed by a normal consumer whatsoever. During the earliest adoptions of Denuvo, there were certainly published articles about Denuvo, since it's new. Since then though, the first people who are actually interested in "whether a game has Denuvo" seem to be just pirates who realise on launch day that the game can't be cracked easily, so they start crying online about it.

Here's the kicker with greater adoption of Denuvo: the more games that use Denuvo, the harder it is to crack them. Why is that? Cracking Denuvo has proven time and time again to be a huge timesink, and there are not that many cracking groups capable of dealing with Denuvo. And so, if they can only crack a game in months nowadays when only a handful of games use Denuvo, they'll get completely annihilated by impossible workload when hundreds of games use Denuvo. And then, piracy dies.

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#15  Edited By parkurtommo
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@lundy86_4: Somewhat intrusive, It's a sort of downgraded version of "always online". I.e if you lose your connection at any point to the servers, it will disrupt your gameplay and attempt to log in, it's annoying. But, it doesn't happen often, and I imagine it only happened because of the amount of players at launch. You can bypass it by going in offline mode on steam but that sucks big time.

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#16  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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Crybaby pirates. The dev of Rebel Galaxy Tweeted how people playing pirated copies wanted him to alter their save files to fix glitches though he was clearly able to see them playing pirated games. I know lots of PC gamers like to downplay piracy but damn, like every Reddit search on games always pulls up two groups, the main game group and the pirate crowd coordinating cracking it and hosting it on the torrents. I image a service and feature like this is going to upset lots of people.