Killzone 2. BRAND NEW Beta Gameplay!! ABSOLUTLY Amazing! Link

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

Wow, I want my 2 minutes back. 2 minutes of random run&gun close-combat spraying is not "amazing". Seriously, this game has "generic console trash" written all over it. I feel sorry for people who are so FPS-starved that they are anticipating that trash.

Bazooka_4ME

...hater at its finest! :lol:

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Wasn't much of a showcase for the tactical aspects. :P

It looks absolutely stunning, graphically. This game is quite possibly the most visually exaggerated of all time, from the lighting to the red-hot bullet crators left over from every shot, to the smoke and blood effects. :shock:

I'm surprised at how accurate the weapons are when players are not even aiming down the sights. :?

Mordred19

i agree, too much close combat and the so-called 1st person cover mechanics are not well implented/used in that vid.

and the weapons are too accurate in close combat. :?

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

Wow, I want my 2 minutes back. 2 minutes of random run&gun close-combat spraying is not "amazing". Seriously, this game has "generic console trash" written all over it. I feel sorry for people who are so FPS-starved that they are anticipating that trash.

ReddestSkies

...hater at its finest! :lol:

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Here you go.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

 

 

...hater at its finest! :lol:

joopyme

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Here you go.

Wow, it has gimmicks. Gimmicks are cool, they work pretty damn well at killing the little skills that might be involved in such a shallow game! Skills-killing is amazing!

Nope, not convinced. That features list just makes me think that the game might actually be worse than it seems.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

Wasn't much of a showcase for the tactical aspects. :P

It looks absolutely stunning, graphically. This game is quite possibly the most visually exaggerated of all time, from the lighting to the red-hot bullet crators left over from every shot, to the smoke and blood effects. :shock:

I'm surprised at how accurate the weapons are when players are not even aiming down the sights. :?

joopyme

i agree, too much close combat and the so-called 1st person cover mechanics are not well implented/used in that vid.

and the weapons are too accurate in close combat. :?

I heard that the first person cover system was removed from multiplayer, and if it wasn't, there definetly weren't any players actually using that feature to stick behind any cover.

But you see that a lot in MP games. It just takes a while for people to catch onto something that's not immediatly evident but useful. I hope the 1st-person cover is in the final MP game.

and close combat shooting isn't a problem, it's natural for one to be able to hit another person more easily while hip firing if they are much closer to you. It's just that I saw a lot of medium/long-range hip firing with basically no scattering of the shots.

[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

Wasn't much of a showcase for the tactical aspects. :P

It looks absolutely stunning, graphically. This game is quite possibly the most visually exaggerated of all time, from the lighting to the red-hot bullet crators left over from every shot, to the smoke and blood effects. :shock:

I'm surprised at how accurate the weapons are when players are not even aiming down the sights. :?

Mordred19

i agree, too much close combat and the so-called 1st person cover mechanics are not well implented/used in that vid.

and the weapons are too accurate in close combat. :?

I heard that the first person cover system was removed from multiplayer, and if it wasn't, there definetly weren't any players actually using that feature to stick behind any cover.

But you see that a lot in MP games. It just takes a while for people to catch onto something that's not immediatly evident but useful. I hope the 1st-person cover is in the final MP game.

and close combat shooting isn't a problem, it's natural for one to be able to hit another person more easily while hip firing if they are much closer to you. It's just that I saw a lot of medium/long-range hip firing with basically no scattering of the shots.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

 

 

...hater at its finest! :lol:

joopyme

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Here you go.

Wow, that system sounds great. I hope there's a cosmetic aspect to customization as well.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

 

 

 

...hater at its finest! :lol:

joopyme

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Here you go.

DUDE! Saboteur sounds Wicked!! There are so many skills to chose from. :D I hope they fine tune this game to be a well deserved AAA title.

Oh and guys, don't listen to the lemming around, just ignore him and it will go away. ;)

edit: I can't believe you can't say clas-ses without it getting censored. 

Wasn't much of a showcase for the tactical aspects. :P

It looks absolutely stunning, graphically. This game is quite possibly the most visually exaggerated of all time, from the lighting to the red-hot bullet crators left over from every shot, to the smoke and blood effects. :shock:

I'm surprised at how accurate the weapons are when players are not even aiming down the sights. :?

Mordred19

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42799.html Wow now I know why everyone is so hyped for this game! I just checked out this video and OMG this game looks amazing.. Watch the whole thing because the last few minutes shows up Shotgun action, the multiplayer of this game looks amazingCODjon84

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="joopyme"] [QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

Wasn't much of a showcase for the tactical aspects. :P

It looks absolutely stunning, graphically. This game is quite possibly the most visually exaggerated of all time, from the lighting to the red-hot bullet crators left over from every shot, to the smoke and blood effects. :shock:

I'm surprised at how accurate the weapons are when players are not even aiming down the sights. :?

-Mad_Rhetoric-

i agree, too much close combat and the so-called 1st person cover mechanics are not well implented/used in that vid.

and the weapons are too accurate in close combat. :?

I heard that the first person cover system was removed from multiplayer, and if it wasn't, there definetly weren't any players actually using that feature to stick behind any cover.

But you see that a lot in MP games. It just takes a while for people to catch onto something that's not immediatly evident but useful. I hope the 1st-person cover is in the final MP game.

and close combat shooting isn't a problem, it's natural for one to be able to hit another person more easily while hip firing if they are much closer to you. It's just that I saw a lot of medium/long-range hip firing with basically no scattering of the shots.

even if it does take a while to get used to the newly implented system, i NEVER saw anyone use it.

why'd they remove the coversystem in MP?

[QUOTE="CODjon84"]http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42799.html Wow now I know why everyone is so hyped for this game! I just checked out this video and OMG this game looks amazing.. Watch the whole thing because the last few minutes shows up Shotgun action, the multiplayer of this game looks amazingnavyguy21

have YOU played the beta?

if you did, you seem unsatisfied.

can i have the codes? :D

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="CODjon84"]http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42799.html Wow now I know why everyone is so hyped for this game! I just checked out this video and OMG this game looks amazing.. Watch the whole thing because the last few minutes shows up Shotgun action, the multiplayer of this game looks amazingjoopyme

have YOU played the beta?

if you did, you seem unsatisfied.

can i have the codes? :D

Oh no, im satisfied with the game, its fun, but like i said, its ALOT like COD4. and the graphics are overhyped. I think anyone who has played the beta would agree. It looks so much like COD4 (but with a superb lighting engine) and the animations are smoother and more varied, and your characters have weight to them, but thats about where the differences end. the textures are worse than COD4, even worse than MGS4 (yes i have the game fanboys:P) and is covered up but the dark(but still great) lighting engine, and motion blur (way overused)why does a guy "motion blur" to the ground when he dies?:lol: )

Do you think there is enough auto aim to compensate for the lack of skill? jesus. hopesfall2own

[QUOTE="CODjon84"]http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42799.html Wow now I know why everyone is so hyped for this game! I just checked out this video and OMG this game looks amazing.. Watch the whole thing because the last few minutes shows up Shotgun action, the multiplayer of this game looks amazingPrimusGears

Crysis looks amazing, this looks good a little bit better than COD4, and I liked the music. It looks AAA.

That's exactly what i was thinking. I wasn't impressed, but its still not terrible by any means.

[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

 

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

ReddestSkies

Here you go.

Wow, it has gimmicks. Gimmicks are cool, they work pretty damn well at killing the little skills that might be involved in such a shallow game! Skills-killing is amazing!

Nope, not convinced. That features list just makes me think that the game might actually be worse than it seems.

Hey cool, you linked my blog joopyme :). As for calling it gimmicks....please explain how? These features are the layers of content that makes the core game mechanics have diversity and longevity. You seem to be treading fanboy territory :?. As a fan of shooters, how can this not be intriguing? Name 3 shooters this generation on consoles that provide more content in an amazing graphics package please.

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

 

i agree, too much close combat and the so-called 1st person cover mechanics are not well implented/used in that vid.

and the weapons are too accurate in close combat. :?

joopyme

I heard that the first person cover system was removed from multiplayer, and if it wasn't, there definetly weren't any players actually using that feature to stick behind any cover.

But you see that a lot in MP games. It just takes a while for people to catch onto something that's not immediatly evident but useful. I hope the 1st-person cover is in the final MP game.

and close combat shooting isn't a problem, it's natural for one to be able to hit another person more easily while hip firing if they are much closer to you. It's just that I saw a lot of medium/long-range hip firing with basically no scattering of the shots.

even if it does take a while to get used to the newly implented system, i NEVER saw anyone use it.

why'd they remove the coversystem in MP?

They removed the cover in MP for good and here's why:

"It didn't work too well in the 360 degree combat environment that is multiplayer," wrote Downie on the Official PlayStation forums. "In single player the path is more linear and the action is usually ahead of the player. In MP levels are more arena based and you are more susceptible to flanking and being attacked from various angles."

Downie continued to explain how in multiplayer, the developer found that players were actually working against the "lean and peak" system, and concluded it was simply best to remove it altogether.

"We found that the L&P system didn't add anything in that scenario and that players often actually took a step back from cover objects to give themselves a little more freedom to move, so they were actually working against the system, so we ripped it back out," wrote Downie.

"Crouching was deemed sufficient."

When I first thought about it I was upset, but then came to realize the affects and importance of excluding it. See in Gears the player is in 3rd person and has a 360 degree camera to utilize while in cover, so seeing your surroundings is available and necessary. KZ2 is in first-person and utilizing that key advantage is absent, putting you at a disadvantade if another player were to flank you (realistic I know, but would piss everyone off :P) and you'd be stuck to the environment with little control over your movement/aim. So far, no one has complained about it in the beta to my knowledge and its working fine :).

[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

 

I've been playing online FPS since 1998. Please convince me that this game is special or any good at all. This should be interesting.

Mordred19

Here you go.

Wow, that system sounds great. I hope there's a cosmetic aspect to customization as well.

Unfortunately its limited to your c|ass. Your character takes on the visual identety of the 'primary badge' you have equipped. Like in Team Fortress.

The game does nothing new lol.

half life 2 deathmatch and doom3,unreal tournament 3 on pc own this.

doom3/half life 2 you can use gravity gun in the multiplayer.

doom3's double barrell shotgun **** owns.

Just because it LOOKS amazing doesn't mean IT WILL BE amazing.

Great Graphics DO NOT equal Great GAMEPLAY

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9421_en.html

some more killzone2 beta footage.

i have been playing fps since they started...everyone probley thinks im crazy.

but doom3 multiplayer actually is better...because you can rocket jump,strafe jump and other stuff.

the multiplayer looks decent....besides horrible death animations doesnt look to have much weapons though.

it kinda feels like ive already played this game before doesnt really do anything new for fps genre..

oh on side note half life 2 deathmatch kicks ass because it has crouch jumping...lol lets you jump over objects you wouldnt think you could get over/on top.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42799.html Wow now I know why everyone is so hyped for this game! I just checked out this video and OMG this game looks amazing.. Watch the whole thing because the last few minutes shows up Shotgun action, the multiplayer of this game looks amazingCODjon84

We all know why its hyped and why so many people think it will be the best console shooter so lets not beat around the bush and get straight to the point the game looks the dogs b******* but watching the game puts me to sleep and is basicaly just b*******.

the map designs are decent though...they seem to have narrow/cluster ****ed area's where it makes for crazy/upclose battles....

wow the framerate is craptacular

wow that looks good.

You can see on the pillars there they have surface destruction, it was in another video.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9421_en.html

some more killzone2 beta footage.

i have been playing fps since they started...everyone probley thinks im crazy.

but doom3 multiplayer actually is better...because you can rocket jump,strafe jump and other stuff.

impattack420

Yep, I think your crazy!!

You say doom 3 you can rocket jump but then go onto say that KZ2 does nothing new lol. I mean there has been other games with rocket jumping, so did you bash them? Also I think that kind of gameplay is looked at as gimicky now, think most people don't want to play games that look like your playing against a bunch of rabbits chasing each other around a room lol. Just look how well UTIII did, that should tell you something.

wow the framerate is craptacular

Norule04

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]Do you think there is enough auto aim to compensate for the lack of skill? jesus. 0bscurity

Are you kidding me? That's gotta be some of the worst damage control I've seen.

So the game isn't open to criticism without it being damage control?

 

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9421_en.html

some more killzone2 beta footage.

 

i have been playing fps since they started...everyone probley thinks im crazy.

 

but doom3 multiplayer actually is better...because you can rocket jump,strafe jump and other stuff.

impattack420

Wait a minute... UT 2004 kills Doom 3 multiplayer. You can strafe jump as well. As for rocket jumping. TF:Classsic was the first game to do it and is still the most fun with TF2 IMO :). But is it a bad thing that you can't rocket jump?

Didn't think the game would look THAT good. The screen shots I've seen didn't do the game much justice, but damn the video sure did.xXSecksXx

I know. Its one of those games that looks 10X better in motion. KZ2 is a sight to behold indeed.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9421_en.html

some more killzone2 beta footage.

i have been playing fps since they started...everyone probley thinks im crazy.

but doom3 multiplayer actually is better...because you can rocket jump,strafe jump and other stuff.

impattack420

Woobabooba?

Anyway, you're just trolling if you think Doom 3 has better multiplayer. Also the animation of the chatracters when being shot is one thing this game does really well. It has a very good fluid feel which I think makes the game look excellent. So I for one completely disagree with you lol.

[QUOTE="impattack420"]

 

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_9421_en.html

some more killzone2 beta footage.

 

i have been playing fps since they started...everyone probley thinks im crazy.

 

but doom3 multiplayer actually is better...because you can rocket jump,strafe jump and other stuff.

DAZZER7

Woobabooba?

Anyway, you're just trolling if you think Doom 3 has better multiplayer. Also the animation of the chatracters when being shot is one thing this game does really well. It has a very good fluid feel which I think makes the game look excellent. So I for one completely disagree with you lol.

:lol: I think it is him! He was awesome no doubt.

Woah, that looks intense....

I like! :D