Is the Wii good or bad for the industry? You decide.

Do you think the Wii is a good thing for the gaming industry, or do you believe it is bad for the industry? Make your opinions on this ongoing issue heard.

Be honest, and please provide a back-up to your opinion rather than just saying "Wii rules/sucks". I wanna know what the majority of SW thinks about this issue.

Is the Wii good or bad for the industry? What do you guys think?

Uhg, how many times do we have to go over this exact same topic.

5 years from now, all of you are gonna feel very silly.

How is it bad for the gaming industry? |:

You would think it would only be good since many gamers out there are enjoying it.

Uhg, how many times do we have to go over this exact same topic.

5 years from now, all of you are gonna feel very silly.

goblaa

How is it bad for the gaming industry? |:

You would think it would only be good since many gamers out there are enjoying it.

akai_reaver

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Uhg, how many times do we have to go over this exact same topic.

5 years from now, all of you are gonna feel very silly.

Nike_Air

In some sense, most likely. At the very least MS will add tilt. Chances are the pointer will be copied as well by Sony and MS as it is by far the most important and useful feature on the wiimote.

I don't really see waggle being a big deal, but the pointer yes.

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How is it bad for the gaming industry? |:

You would think it would only be good since many gamers out there are enjoying it.

swaginator

But I don't care...so long as I'm getting cool games and so long as there's a reason for the update in hardware...be it a new proccessor or a new controller.

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How is it bad for the gaming industry? |:

You would think it would only be good since many gamers out there are enjoying it.

goblaa

But I don't care...so long as I'm getting cool games and so long as there's a reason for the update in hardware...be it a new proccessor or a new controller.

[QUOTE="akai_reaver"]

How is it bad for the gaming industry? |:

You would think it would only be good since many gamers out there are enjoying it.

swaginator

If you could get over the hole "GC with a new controller" thing you'll see that it's actually a good thing, it's not a GC, it does many more things the GC couldn't do.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Uhg, how many times do we have to go over this exact same topic.

5 years from now, all of you are gonna feel very silly.

goblaa

In some sense, most likely. At the very least MS will add tilt. Chances are the pointer will be copied as well by Sony and MS as it is by far the most important and useful feature on the wiimote.

I don't really see waggle being a big deal, but the pointer yes.

nintendo didnt even make the technology in the wiimote, all they di was patent there own controller, like every other console creator! this is a common misconception!

Weren't you the guy who kept on saying the Wii is a fad and would stop selling in 2007?darkmario123

You talking to me? Another bad thing about the Wii is that its giving developers & publishers the incentive to put very little effort into their games and release casual cr@p and minigames.

How about for once we talk about what is really bad for the industry, and that is microtransactions that are just going to become more and more prevalent as this generation roles on.peaceful_anger

also i honestly think it is bad for the industry. it puts games into the "for-kids" genre. which means more moms and dads will listen to the idiotic lies of Jack thompson, and we all know bad things happen when people take people like him serious.

How about for once we talk about what is really bad for the industry, and that is microtransactions that are just going to become more and more prevalent as this generation roles on.peaceful_anger

Or that console prices could keep getting higher and higher. Who wants to see a $800 PS4?

Or that dev costs will get higher. Who wants FF14 to come out 10 years after FF13 with ads in the game.

Or that games (not wii) are leaning more and more towards the hardcore only. Alienating 97% of the market, driving videogames into the same problem comic books ran into.

EDIT...meant prices, not sales

also i honestly think it is bad for the industry. it puts games into the "for-kids" genre. which means more moms and dads will listen to the idiotic lies of Jack thompson, and we all know bad things happen when people take people like him serious.

irelevent

What do kid games have to do with this, those are not games targeted at kids, they're meant to be for EVERYONE, from you to me to a little 6 year old, everyone can enjoy.

also i honestly think it is bad for the industry. it puts games into the "for-kids" genre. which means more moms and dads will listen to the idiotic lies of Jack thompson, and we all know bad things happen when people take people like him serious.

irelevent

I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. swaginator

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Uhg, how many times do we have to go over this exact same topic.

5 years from now, all of you are gonna feel very silly.

irelevent

In some sense, most likely. At the very least MS will add tilt. Chances are the pointer will be copied as well by Sony and MS as it is by far the most important and useful feature on the wiimote.

I don't really see waggle being a big deal, but the pointer yes.

nintendo didnt even make the technology in the wiimote, all they di was patent there own controller, like every other console creator! this is a common misconception!

What on Earth are you babeling about? I never claimed that they did. But the point is, they are going to inspire Sony and MS to add things like tilt and pointers to their hardware...nobody cares who made the tech (US Navy was the first to truely implement it) all we care about is howit will affect future games.

[QUOTE="swaginator"]I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"]I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. swaginator

[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"]I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. KungfuKitten

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swaginator

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"]I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. swaginator

Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn are all Nintendo first party games that do look awesome. No effort? Lies.

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KungfuKitten

No he doesn't. I feel the same way.

It's a good thing, the more money in the industry, the better, and Nintendo has done a great job in expanding the industry.

A disturbing trend I see is with sony, charging an outragous prices for it's systems, it isolates all but the most hardcore fans, and costs developers ridiculus amounts of money for development. I hope this trend doesn't keep up, what if they end up charging $800 for a system next gen? This trend could ruin the industry.

[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="swaginator"]I think its bad simply because all nintendo did to the system was take gamecube parts overclock them, and add some ram. Then they added the new controller, and jacked up the price. Wham bam, no thanks nintendo. Keep it. I'll go with console manufacturers that are going to give me the best possible hardware for the best possible price. And the best possible games. akai_reaver

Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn are all Nintendo first party games that do look awesome. No effort? Lies.

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KungfuKitten

You can bet Microsoft and Sony are taking note and watching Nintendo closely since the Wii is selling like hotcakes, and they are making a profit on everything. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft and Sony do something similar like Nintendo and make their next-gen consoles more affordable.That would gain them a larger user install base, thus creating bigger customer potential for third parties (as this seems to be a major concern with them now), meaning more games sold. But at the same time sacrificing processing power. I can see the PS4 being nothing more then a repackaged, slim-downed, overclocked PS3 with a redesigned interface (much like the Wii is to the Gamecube).

Dev costs are going through the roof as is, and if something isn't done it'll only get worse next generation if they continue to go the route of trying to cram the most advanced hardware into a box. So, to answer your question if the Wii is good or bad for the industry, I can't make that call. I mean It is letting non-gamers get a chance to play and enjoy games, and if that's a bad thing then I don't know what to say. But if it changes how next-gen consoles will be like, then that's personal opinion.

[QUOTE="irelevent"]

also i honestly think it is bad for the industry. it puts games into the "for-kids" genre. which means more moms and dads will listen to the idiotic lies of Jack thompson, and we all know bad things happen when people take people like him serious.

DaAznSaN

nintendo would have you think that. however the reality is that after having they're kid play a game made for 4 year olds the federal games regulator will think like this "games are being played by 5-6 year olds, we cant have these terrible evil games corrupting our childrens minds"

It's a good thing, the more money in the industry, the better, and Nintendo has done a great job in expanding the industry.

A disturbing trend I see is with sony, charging an outragous prices for it's systems, it isolates all but the most hardcore fans, and costs developers ridiculus amounts of money for development. I hope this trend doesn't keep up, what if they end up charging $800 for a system next gen? This trend could ruin the industry.

yoshi-lnex

This is exactly what could happen. Well said man. I don't think most people see the trend and the difference between gaming 15 years ago and no. Consoles in the late 80s early 90s came packed typically with at least 2 controllers and a game. I think PSX was the first system to my knowledge to be very expensive packed with no game..but a demo. After that I only seen consoles prices rising to monstronous prices. Its ridiculous.

$400-$500 for a system? Sick..Nintendo did something good this generation by somewhat restoring what gaming was during the golden era. Which is why their console is #1.

Yeah, first party is ok. But what about 3rd party?swaginator

It's a good thing, the more money in the industry, the better, and Nintendo has done a great job in expanding the industry.

A disturbing trend I see is with sony, charging an outragous prices for it's systems, it isolates all but the most hardcore fans, and costs developers ridiculus amounts of money for development. I hope this trend doesn't keep up, what if they end up charging $800 for a system next gen? This trend could ruin the industry.

yoshi-lnex

Why does everyone over look the 360 its able to provide hardware greater than last gen hardware and only cost $50 more than the Wii. If anything the people that are overcharging their systems are nintendo and Sony.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

It's a good thing, the more money in the industry, the better, and Nintendo has done a great job in expanding the industry.

A disturbing trend I see is with sony, charging an outragous prices for it's systems, it isolates all but the most hardcore fans, and costs developers ridiculus amounts of money for development. I hope this trend doesn't keep up, what if they end up charging $800 for a system next gen? This trend could ruin the industry.

Shift05

Why does everyone over look the 360 its able to provide hardware greater than last gen hardware and only cost $50 more than the Wii. If anything the people that are overcharging their systems are nintendo and Sony.

Because a 360 without a HDD is absolutely worthless, thats why its not being mentioned.

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]How about for once we talk about what is really bad for the industry, and that is microtransactions that are just going to become more and more prevalent as this generation roles on.swaginator

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

It's a good thing, the more money in the industry, the better, and Nintendo has done a great job in expanding the industry.

A disturbing trend I see is with sony, charging an outragous prices for it's systems, it isolates all but the most hardcore fans, and costs developers ridiculus amounts of money for development. I hope this trend doesn't keep up, what if they end up charging $800 for a system next gen? This trend could ruin the industry.

Shift05

Why does everyone over look the 360 its able to provide hardware greater than last gen hardware and only cost $50 more than the Wii. If anything the people that are overcharging their systems are nintendo and Sony.

Right. Only $50 more with no memory or online.

I admit though, MS has done a great job offering a powerful machine at a decent price. They still need to get it down to sub $300 for it to be a great price, but still.

I really don't know either way. It's not making my hardcore games any better, and gaining money from casual sales doesn't encourage hardcore development...

I suppose exposure to more people is a good thing, but it's only moving in a different direction if most of the focus is on making games as simple and wide-appealing as possible. Sometimes, catering to everyone isn't a good thing. But I don't know if this is the case.