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#1 Solquid_Snake
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I'm just curious as to why they aren't funding any projects or to have exclusive content in multiplats. (and I'm not referring to timed exclusive content that consumers have to pay for like Homefront and Call of Duty: Black Ops)

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#2 eboyishere
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i said it in another thread that MS seems to have problems balancing all sides of there platform, at the same time they havent been around as long in the gaming world as sony/ninty so it could be immaturity in the company
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#3 KC_Hokie
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Honestly, 'exclusive' content in multiplatform games usually sucks.
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#4 jdt532
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Maybe it's cause third party exclusives are rare anymore and MS doesn't have much in terms of internal studios that could make exclusive games like Sony and Nintendo do.

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#5 SaltyMeatballs
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They spent a lot on Kinect. Not good for us gamers but there's the explanation I guess. I'm sure Forza 4 will be one of the best exclusives in a while though, on any platform.
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#6 eboyishere
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They spent a lot on Kinect. Not good for us gamers but there's the explanation I guess. I'm sure Forza 4 will be one of the best exclusives in a while though, on any platform.SaltyMeatballs

im not on the 360 that much and im not a fan of racing sims but i can agree with that

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#7 I-Scarface-I
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They would need to fund these first-party exclusives and most of them just aren't worth it to them. They're in the business to make money and they're doing it.

I have no problem with Microsoft. I have no interest in their system but they're smart. Why bother putting tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars into a game that might not even succeed? Contrary to popular belief, developers don't do exclusives out of the kindness of their heart.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They spent a lot on Kinect. Not good for us gamers but there's the explanation I guess. I'm sure Forza 4 will be one of the best exclusives in a while though, on any platform.eboyishere

im not on the 360 that much and im not a fan of racing sims but i can agree with that

I'm not a huge fan of racing sims either, but I can appreciate when something is of high quality and I feel Forza 3 was, and from what we know and the leaked Forza 4 trailer it will be even better.
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#9 soulitane
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Because they are making money in other ways.
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They would need to fund these first-party exclusives and most of them just aren't worth it to them. They're in the business to make money and they're doing it.

I have no problem with Microsoft. I have no interest in their system but they're smart. Why bother putting tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars into a game that might not even succeed? Contrary to popular belief, developers don't do exclusives out of the kindness of their heart.

I-Scarface-I

Yeah, but Sony (as well as Nintendo) don't have any issues developing games like Microsoft. Their developers are getting paid regardless if the games sell well or not.

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#11 GreenGoblin2099
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They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

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#12 Salt_The_Fries
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Because they are making money in other ways.soulitane
And their policy so far proved to be the best one (in terms of money-making) and pays off handsomely.
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#13 EliteM0nk3y
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They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

GreenGoblin2099

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

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Because they are making money in other ways.soulitane

this, but at the same time they easily abandon other divisions....but i mean if it works it works right?8)

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#15 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

EliteM0nk3y

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

Well... can't blame SW:

sesame

:lol:

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#16 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

EliteM0nk3y

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

So games like Once Upon a Monster are worthy mentions?

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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

Solquid_Snake

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

So games like Once Upon a Monster are worthy mentions?

Perhaps not, but Dance Central certainly is.

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#18 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

Solquid_Snake

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

So games like Once Upon a Monster are worthy mentions?

If I get a Kinect for the M rated games, Children of Eden, etc. I'll get that Sesame Street one for when I'm drunk and have people over.
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#19 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

KC_Hokie

So games like Once Upon a Monster are worthy mentions?

If I get a Kinect for the M rated games, Children of Eden, etc. I'll get that Sesame Street one for when I'm drunk and have people over.

Because we all know that Child of Eden is a Kinect as well as an Xbox 360 exclusive, right?

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#20 Heil68
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They seem to think people don't want them and are happy with kinect games.
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#21 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

So games like Once Upon a Monster are worthy mentions?

Solquid_Snake

If I get a Kinect for the M rated games, Children of Eden, etc. I'll get that Sesame Street one for when I'm drunk and have people over.

Because we all know that Child of Eden is a Kinect as well as an Xbox 360 exclusive, right?

Child of Eden is being optimized for Kinect. It's going to be the best version.
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They seem to think people don't want them and are happy with kinect games. Heil68

they are doing the ninty approach...force a genre on people until they love it

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#23 I-Scarface-I
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They would need to fund these first-party exclusives and most of them just aren't worth it to them. They're in the business to make money and they're doing it.

I have no problem with Microsoft. I have no interest in their system but they're smart. Why bother putting tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars into a game that might not even succeed? Contrary to popular belief, developers don't do exclusives out of the kindness of their heart.

Solquid_Snake

Yeah, but Sony (as well as Nintendo) don't have any issues developing games like Microsoft. Their developers are getting paid regardless if the games sell well or not.

Sony has been around way longer and has established a fanbase.

Microsoft is essentially late to the party and the only fanbase they have are the "Bro Gamers" as people call them. You really think these gamers would buy games like LittleBigPlanet, Heavy Rain, God of War, etc.? Off the top of my head I don't know sales numbers but I'm almost positive games like Alan Wake, Kameo and other first-party titles didn't perform too well.

Microsoft already has two big shooters along with Call of Duty. There's not really any new IP they can create because it's most likely going to disappoint. I can't remember seeing a non-Forza/Fable/Halo/Gears exclusive selling well. Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see what Microsoft can do in terms of exclusives. They would be risking too much money like they were when the gen first started.

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#24 Solquid_Snake
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They seem to think people don't want them and are happy with kinect games. Heil68

Ah, that makes sense. The more ignorant the consumer, the happier they are. What they don't know what hurt 'em, right?

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#25 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]If I get a Kinect for the M rated games, Children of Eden, etc. I'll get that Sesame Street one for when I'm drunk and have people over. KC_Hokie

Because we all know that Child of Eden is a Kinect as well as an Xbox 360 exclusive, right?

Child of Eden is being optimized for Kinect. It's going to be the best version.

Keep on trucking with that mentality, bro. It makes the Kinect seem more and more like a worthy purchase!

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#26 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Because we all know that Child of Eden is a Kinect as well as an Xbox 360 exclusive, right?

Solquid_Snake

Child of Eden is being optimized for Kinect. It's going to be the best version.

Keep on trucking with that mentality, bro. It makes the Kinect seem more and more like a worthy purchase!

What is the date for the PS3 version again?
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There's Kinect games.

*Shrugs*

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#28 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="I-Scarface-I"]

They would need to fund these first-party exclusives and most of them just aren't worth it to them. They're in the business to make money and they're doing it.

I have no problem with Microsoft. I have no interest in their system but they're smart. Why bother putting tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars into a game that might not even succeed? Contrary to popular belief, developers don't do exclusives out of the kindness of their heart.

I-Scarface-I

Yeah, but Sony (as well as Nintendo) don't have any issues developing games like Microsoft. Their developers are getting paid regardless if the games sell well or not.

Sony has been around way longer and has established a fanbase.

Microsoft is essentially late to the party and the only fanbase they have are the "Bro Gamers" as people call them. You really think these gamers would buy games like LittleBigPlanet, Heavy Rain, God of War, etc.? Off the top of my head I don't know sales numbers but I'm almost positive games like Alan Wake, Kameo and other first-party titles didn't perform too well.

Microsoft already has two big shooters along with Call of Duty. There's not really any new IP they can create because it's most likely going to disappoint. I can't remember seeing a non-Forza/Fable/Halo/Gears exclusive selling well. Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see what Microsoft can do in terms of exclusives. They would be risking too much money like they were when the gen first started.

I believe the sales of Alan Wake are over 1 million at this point. But at launch they weren't impressive, but that might have something to do with it coming out on the same day as Red Dead Redemtion. And Kameo got enough sales to warrent a sequel, but MS cancelled it.

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#29 osan0
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its just a different strategy. get timed exclusive content...tie it in with xbox live to increase subs...get money from 3rd party sales also....make lots of money. once they have people roped into xbox live with a few mates...they are far more likely to stick with it. MS also know that when it comes to some stuff people are very impatient. it exists...therefore they must have it. they do commission other devs to do work for them also. like epic and now crytek and bioware in the past. its going to be interesting to see if it works next gen though. first party also has its ups and downs. so what will come out on top? hard to say.
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#30 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

They are not afraid of exclusives... they are preparing lots of Kinect games.

Thread fail.

GreenGoblin2099

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

Well... can't blame SW:

sesame

:lol:

But it's being developed by Double Fine, so I have faith.

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#31 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Child of Eden is being optimized for Kinect. It's going to be the best version. KC_Hokie

Keep on trucking with that mentality, bro. It makes the Kinect seem more and more like a worthy purchase!

What is the date for the PS3 version again?

Oh, that's right. You guys prefer timed exclusives.

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Expect Alan Wake 2 to be announced at E3 or sometime soon.
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#33 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Keep on trucking with that mentality, bro. It makes the Kinect seem more and more like a worthy purchase!

Solquid_Snake

What is the date for the PS3 version again?

Oh, that's right. You guys prefer timed exclusives.

It's not a timed exclusive. The developer is concentrating on the Kinect version.
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#34 mythrol
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I'm just curious as to why they aren't funding any projects or to have exclusive content in multiplats. (and I'm not referring to timed exclusive content that consumers have to pay for like Homefront and Call of Duty: Black Ops)

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Microsoft has funded tons of exclusives. They've thrown a crazy amount of money into them. Think about how much they spent on Two Human and Alan Wake. What about the pair of Mistwalker JRPG's they funded? Microsoft spent a ton of cash on exclusives that never really panned out for them (not saying the games were good or bad, they just didn't sell what MS wanted them to). Say what you want about their current strategy of timed exclusives, and PC/360 games but it's made them FAR MORE MONEY.
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]What is the date for the PS3 version again?KC_Hokie

Oh, that's right. You guys prefer timed exclusives.

It's not a timed exclusive. The developer is concentrating on the Kinect version.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Oh, that's right. You guys prefer timed exclusives.

Solquid_Snake

It's not a timed exclusive. The developer is concentrating on the Kinect version.

Do you have proof it's a timed exclusive?

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When this gen started microsoft were focused on gaining sony's market share by picking up as many IPs that they can. That time passed the moment the Wii started destroying both microsoft and sony in the sales...which is what microsoft cares about more than anything else.
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#38 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It's not a timed exclusive. The developer is concentrating on the Kinect version. KC_Hokie

Do you have proof it's a timed exclusive?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297954/child-of-eden-ps3-set-for-3d-support/

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#39 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Solquid_Snake

Do you have proof it's a timed exclusive?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

no where did it say that it was timed.

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#40 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Solquid_Snake

Do you have proof it's a timed exclusive?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

A forum?

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Give me a break. This whole gen Microsoft has had the upperhand as far as exclusive content is concerned. My guess is they are focusing on next gen.

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xbox's division has gone downhill since peter moore and other people left the company.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297954/child-of-eden-ps3-set-for-3d-support/

Solquid_Snake

You won't find it as a timed exclusive because it's not. The reality is the developer is concentrating on the Kinect version of Child of Eden.

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xbox's division has gone downhill since peter moore and other people left the company.doomndukeRback

This I have to agree with. And funny, EA started to get better when Peter Moore went there. :shock:

Peter Moore come back to MS :cry:

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#45 shutdown_202
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Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

EliteM0nk3y

Wait.......are you being serious? Thread where this was decided?

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#46 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297954/child-of-eden-ps3-set-for-3d-support/

KC_Hokie

You won't find it as a timed exclusive because it's not. The reality is the developer is concentrating on the Kinect version of Child of Eden.

Now where is your link that says that the Kinect version is the only version being made?

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#47 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

Kinect games are not counted towards the exclusive list here on SW. Don't know why, and it's stupid, but that's how it goes

shutdown_202

Wait.......are you being serious? Thread where this was decided?

I can't point to which thread because it was like that when I started coming here. But ya that's how it goes

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#48 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297954/child-of-eden-ps3-set-for-3d-support/

Solquid_Snake

You won't find it as a timed exclusive because it's not. The reality is the developer is concentrating on the Kinect version of Child of Eden.

Now where is your link that says that the Kinect version is the only version being made?

He said that they are "focusing" on the Kinect. He didn't say that it's only being made on Kinect. It's also coming to the PS3 and I believe it will support the Move as well

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#49 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=27150646

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297954/child-of-eden-ps3-set-for-3d-support/

Solquid_Snake

You won't find it as a timed exclusive because it's not. The reality is the developer is concentrating on the Kinect version of Child of Eden.

Now where is your link that says that the Kinect version is the only version being made?

Unable to prove it's a timed exclusive, hunh?

And I never said it was the only version being made. I said they are concentrating on the Kinect version as it has a release date. The PS3 version is TBA and on the backburner.

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#50 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You won't find it as a timed exclusive because it's not. The reality is the developer is concentrating on the Kinect version of Child of Eden.

KC_Hokie

Now where is your link that says that the Kinect version is the only version being made?

Unable to prove it's a timed exclusive, hunh?

And I never said it was the only version being made. I said they are concentrating on the Kinect version as it has a release date. The PS3 version is TBA and on the backburner.

Because they are adding Move and 3D support. But yeah, the one that comes out first is the one that is being focused on! :lol: