Is MGS franchise dead after MGS 5?

I find myself very hard pressed to want to play another one especially after this Konami debacle. Plus, what is MGS without Kojima? Guy is a genius maniac who made the franchise what it is. And now that Konami has gone "mobile", what does exactly that entail? What do you think, SW? Is MGS dead after 5?

what is Metal Gear without Kojima and KojiPro?

Yeah, probably, the series has had a great run, but Kojima will be gone, and Konami clearly doesn't take the console and pc market seriously anymore. MGS will probably be licensed out to some shitty third parties to make generic third person shooter steal hybrid type games that are all the rage in the generic AAA space right now.

Yep, Konami. Hopefully Trolljima finds some stake he can drive in the series at the end to make it harder to monopolize its carcass once he leaves.

Yeah no Kojima means it is dead for me.

Yep.

I think it's safe to say all Konami game franchises are dead at that point. I honestly see it as a good thing that Kojima is escaping the clutches of this greed company.

I hope that we still get a Rising 2 from Platinum. Konami will definitely milk MG until they run the franchise into the ground. They already started hiring for a new spinoff series.

Yeah, it's dead.

It'll be alive but without a spine. Kojima was the spine.

It will become what Spliter Cell became.

Eww... After Chaos Theory it all went to shit.

Yes, If you read between lines Konami wants to transform it into a milking franchise.

Pretty much yeah.

pretty much yes. MGS without Kojima is like the Bulls without Jordan. not happening.

You guys keep mentioning Kojima, like that actually matters if the MGS series will continue or not.

MGS will never continue because Konami is burning everything to the ground. All you're gonna see is MGS mobile games and slot machines from now on.

Absolutely.

its going to mobile its like 1.99 for the game then u buy like extra stuff for 1.99 like levels and stuff it'll come out to around 200 dollars for the full mobile game with konami in charge and it'll be some ugly mobile game

There will absolutely be more games in the MGS universe. Whether they are direct sequels, and whether fans buy them are the only questions.

They already did MGS4. And, well, MGS5 should quite literally close the circle.

They could try some shitty DMC style reboot, but it would be ignored.

Being a huge MGS fan, I don't want the series to end with MGSV

Never really gave MGS a try, something about the name Kojima just doesn't sit well with me. With that asshole out of the picture though, I'll probably check out the series.

Then I can hang out with Finalstar and share anecdotes about playing only the worst games in a great series.

**** yeah.

Maybe it will be a mechanically good stealth game now, who knows?

I hope so, it will be a decent death. But we know that won't happen.

Until proven otherwise, absolutely.

It'll be dead for me. No Kojima, no MGS imo. Who can take the series over and make such a convoluted story? Kojima is the master of convoluted stories that suck you into their world.

Yeah. I bet MGS5 cost WAY too much and Konami wants out. Why bother when you can spend less and make more in the mobile market.

This is why the cost of game development is killing the industry.

Being a huge MGS fan as well, I wish they had stopped with part 4. It was the perfect send off and now...well now they risk ruining it.

Yeah, probably. But at least it'll go out with the biggest of bangs.

I dont think so. There are too many sales to let it die.

METAL GEAR MOBILE...too many sales to let die indeed. But I don't think they want every iteration to cost whatever millions Kojima put into V.

Depends. There is probably some formula for top selling games that publishers use to determine the amount of money is spent on a game.

I doubt he ever got an open checkbook.

All I'm saying is when we see so many sequels in the business, like COD and FF, we can see more than 5 or whatever MGS's.

I hope so. I can't take it anymore. I don't want to be kept out of the loop and experience of the story. But enough is enough.

Good God I hope so.

Yeah, it's pretty much dead unless you are ready to take some mobile shovelware seriously in the future. At least you'll have all previous MGS games on Playstation Consoles to play again and relive great memories.

Unless Platinum releases a sequel to Rising... Yeah, it's over, and with Konami going agressive into mobile, I rather pretend it's over, no interest in whatever pay 2 win mobile metal gear game they release

MGS is praised for its characters and storytelling. Gameplay is interesting enough to keep you engaged. If you are just focusing on gameplay then yes no Stealth game has surpassed Thief duology IMO.

And contrary popular opinion also its gameplay ideas, because the gameplay in that franchise has been terrific sans MGS4.

lol

Qft

MGS isn't MGS without Kojima

Long ago, people (and in you'z) said the same thing when Gene Roddenberry would no longer be involved as a key member Start reks production.

People remember Star Trek: The Wrath Of Khan, not Star Trek The Motion picture. Likewise Deep Space 9 is the most critically praised star trek series, regardless of being done by different people after his death, basically doing whatever they wanted with the license.

My friend, if I wanted to watch a movie, I'd watch Conan The Barbarian. Although I do not disagree Thief probably is the best stealth game, as far as action/stealth games go, Splinter Cell smokes it like a metaphor indicating it is significantly better.

For Stealth Action, Blacklist. For Stealth only The Dark Project/Metal Age remain the king, followed by Chaos Theory.

Blacklist was surprisingly excellent, Ubisoft's shitty demo and attempts to make it appear a COD action game undermined it.

all thing come to an end.

we move on.

I still think Chaos Theory is best in the series followed by Double Agent but Blacklist was huge improvement over Conviction. I tried to keep an open mind when Conviction came out but wasn't impressed. It wasn't a good game even if you judge it as an Action game with Stealth elements. It was waste of potential. Blacklist was a lot better but it still didn't grab me like 3 and 4.

Dead to me at least. Unless whatever team that comes along and makes gameplay and story that is on par with the rest of the series, I am done. This probably means a Rising 2 is unlikely, which is also disappointing.

Yep. I won't lie, for the most part I've enjoyed the story in these games. I would even say I was well invested with MGS1, 2 and 3. But that's not what kept me coming back to sink countless hours into the games, it was all about the interesting gameplay and pretty damn good (sometimes even great) level design. Even when Splinter Cell was cranking out superior gameplay on paper, it just didn't have the combination of mechanics, level design and AI that make the MGS games so extremely replayable. Even in tight corridors MGS exudes freedom and room for experimentation.

MGS4 is a funny one though. Far superior to its predecessors mechanically... wasted due to having weak level design/enemy placement for something like 70% of the game. Then you throw in the Octocamo system and the challenge of stealth is nearly broken.

Sucks because Octocamo served as a much needed streamlining of the MGS3 camo system. It was a great idea! They just made it a bit too effective. I'm so glad they're scrapping the camo index in MGSV. You just load out with whatever camo seems to be the best for the area. Made a really poor choice? Have mother base send out a change of clothes. But at no point is camo choice going to make or break your sneaking, it's just an added bit of cover. I think this system is better as it keeps you in the game rather than constantly worrying about how exposed you are based on a number. It gives the game an emphasis on obstacles and light/shadow play instead of camo being the ultimate crutch.

Aaaaaand I just went into full on tangent mode. Sorry bro. The MGSV hype is real.

You truly are my friend, friend.