If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?

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#1 lord_aquinas
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Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little. It seems everybody was expecting a Gigantor - Mover of Consoles, much similar to the way Halo moved X-Box's a number of years ago. But alas Nintendo could not find anything along those lines.

Which indeed raises the question: If SMG did not move consoles, then what will? The answer will be discovered in a few minutes. But first let's get our facts straight.

When the Wii burst out onto the scene, I was nothing more than a disgruntled adult, disillusioned with life looking for an escape. Wii does not deliver too much in the way of an adult escape for me in the way other consoles do. But enough about me, what will move Wii consoles if SMG did not?

The answer is simple: nothing. Nintendo seem to be using the same formula everytime that their games just seem to be the same thing each time. They take a turn for trying to be as innovative with the wiimote as possible rather than focus on gameplay. The reason why they won't move consoles is because every child who has bought a Wii already bought it for the innovation of the wii mote. If none of the games previously on the Wii appealed to gamers, then what chance does SMG have of appealing to gamers as it just sticks to the same formula as most games available on the Wii.

What this means for other consoles like the PS3 is that the Wii console will not sell too many more units in the upcoming years. PS3 is set to release new innovations with their console and are also yet to release their console moving games like God of War, Final Fantasy and GTA.

Does the Wii have any of these trump cards up their sleeve? No. They've shown their hand. Too early it seems. And that has been its downfall.

In summary: what game will move more Wii's? Answer: nothing.

Thank you for your time

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#2 air_wolf_cubed
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Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas
Wrong
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:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

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#4 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

air_wolf_cubed

Wrong

That's where I stopped reading.

SMG has no consoles to move. The Wii couldn't meet demand before it even came out.

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#5 FancyKetchup25
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SMG moves no consoles as there are no consoles to move.
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#6 Pajamasalad
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Nintendo is selling 100% of their shipped consoles arn't they? How could a game make systems sales go up?
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#7 sexy_chimp
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I read through the rest. He thinks the PS3 will outsell the Wii...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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#8 misteryoung
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ever hear of something called SSBB? how about MarioKart?
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#9 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

air_wolf_cubed

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

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#10 the_h_bomb
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how can you increase the sales of a console when demand is far greater than supply?
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#11 laughingman42
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How can you sell more of something that is already sold out???:?
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#12 Sk8nNotH8n
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To get through thick skulls I'm gonna put in in nice big bold text.

The demand has gone up, but the supply has not.

Its selling as much as it possibly can.

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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

Variety also bashed Meroid Prime 3 because it wasn't casual enough. :|

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lol. It's the best first week selling Mario game ever. Wii still doesnt meet demand. Mario will even up the demand so don't worry.
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#15 lord_aquinas
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:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

FireEmblem_Man

Again. You're missing my point. PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. That offer something new to gamers. SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

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#16 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

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#17 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

sexy_chimp

Wrong

That's where I stopped reading.

SMG has no consoles to move. The Wii couldn't meet demand before it even came out.

Missing the point again: It didn't move consoles like other games will for PS3.

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#18 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

HAAAAHAAA lmao. that was the review sponsored by sony
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#19 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

laughingman42

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

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#20 Weslii
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. That offer something new to gamers. SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.


SSBB might outsell Halo 3.

Really, you shouldn't get into argument with sheep about sales.
It's our territory.
It's a no-brainer that you'll lose.
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#23 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

Yeah...Why listen to dozens of reliable review sites when you can listen to Variety?

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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

That's where I stopped reading.

SMG has no consoles to move. The Wii couldn't meet demand before it even came out.

Missing the point again: It didn't move consoles like other games will for PS3.

butthewiiissellingasfastastheycanmakeit.sohowisitnotmovingconsoles?

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#25 lord_aquinas
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ever hear of something called SSBB? how about MarioKart?misteryoung

Been there done that. It's the same formula. Where's the substance? Or new story?

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you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?
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#27 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

well some who created a new account to post this haszero credibility.

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#28 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

Sk8nNotH8n

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game.

*No they did not, your putting words in mouths.

They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy *Did you just pull that outta your ***?

a common problem on Nintendo consoles. *Thats why all the top 5 highest rated games were on nintendo consoles.

let's keep the top rated games here plz: LOZ: OoT was an exception. But the majority of Nintendo games are far too easy. It's been mentioned in many Gamespot reviews over the years.

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#29 sexy_chimp
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He's an uber cow apparantly. I mean he DOES quote Sony-sponsored reviews.
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#30 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

cliff122316

Wrong

That's where I stopped reading.

SMG has no consoles to move. The Wii couldn't meet demand before it even came out.

Missing the point again: It didn't move consoles like other games will for PS3.

butthewiiissellingasfastastheycanmakeit.sohowisitnotmovingconsoles?

The game isn't moving consoles. Simple as that. And when this sales boom dries up...and FF, God of War, GTA come out on PS3 - the PS3 will increase in sales.

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#31 Gemini_Red
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

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#32 Weslii
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[QUOTE="Sk8nNotH8n"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game.

*No they did not, your putting words in mouths.

They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy *Did you just pull that outta your ***?

a common problem on Nintendo consoles. *Thats why all the top 5 highest rated games were on nintendo consoles.

let's keep the top rated games here plz: LOZ: OoT was an exception. But the majority of Nintendo games are far too easy. It's been mentioned in many Gamespot reviews over the years.


I dont know if you even played SMG but it was a hard game at times.
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#33 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

laughingman42

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

well some who created a new account to post this haszero credibility.

I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

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#34 lord_aquinas
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you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?shoeman12

maybe for you. but we've got plenty here in Australia. I think most of the stores here would be happy to take them of their hands...

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#35 lord_aquinas
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He's an uber cow apparantly. I mean he DOES quote Sony-sponsored reviews.sexy_chimp

I'm an unbiased gamer. I call it like it is.

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[QUOTE="shoeman12"]you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?lord_aquinas

maybe for you. but we've got plenty here in Australia. I think most of the stores here would be happy to take them of their hands...


Wii = Best selling console
It's a fact so you can't win this.

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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Wrong

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

we've lost all respect for you
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I'm not even going to bother reading that. The first sentence already shows how incorrect the TC is.

To answer the title question, Wii Fit and Brawl.

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I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

lord_aquinas

Other reviewers arent gamers? I'm not a gamer? the majority of people on GS arent gamers? well you are wrong about that one too.

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#40 shoeman12
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The game isn't moving consoles. Simple as that. And when this sales boom dries up...and FF, God of War, GTA come out on PS3 - the PS3 will increase in sales.

lord_aquinas

how could it possibly move consoles? it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to move more consoles when wii's are already selling out! do you not understand this?

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#41 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

Gemini_Red

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

1. My point is that when those games are released - the PS3 will sell through the roof
2. ummm I just said GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War.
3. it's not intended to be a story driven game. People know this. Plus it's a multi-plat.

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#42 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?Weslii

maybe for you. but we've got plenty here in Australia. I think most of the stores here would be happy to take them of their hands...


Wii = Best selling console
It's a fact so you can't win this.

Don't count your chicken's before they hatch. I just showed how PS3 has the ability to increase sales. If you can't deny that then I guess it appears i must be correct. If we were debating on philosophical terms that is.

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Er, the TC switched from sales to gameplay and back to sales about three times in the span of three pages.

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#44 lord_aquinas
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I'm not even going to bother reading that. The first sentence already shows how incorrect the TC is.

To answer the title question, Wii Fit and Brawl.

nintendofreak_2

So you think you can not read my post, then write a comment? You should probably have a read of my posts and it will show you why they won't move consoles.

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#45 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="Weslii"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?lord_aquinas

maybe for you. but we've got plenty here in Australia. I think most of the stores here would be happy to take them of their hands...


Wii = Best selling console
It's a fact so you can't win this.

Don't count your chicken's before they hatch. I just showed how PS3 has the ability to increase sales. If you can't deny that then I guess it appears i must be correct. If we were debating on philosophical terms that is.

the ps3 will have to jump 10 million to pass the wii. how does that sound so easy to you
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#46 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="Gemini_Red"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

:|

I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

1. My point is that when those games are released - the PS3 will sell through the roof
2. ummm I just said GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War.
3. it's not intended to be a story driven game. People know this. Plus it's a multi-plat.

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

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#47 lord_aquinas
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Er, the TC switched from sales to gameplay and back to sales about three times in the span of three pages.

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yeah it's a bit of a mix of the two.

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#48 Manly-manly-man
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. That offer something new to gamers. SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

And you completely missed our points. Nintendo has sold all of their consoles. They cant possibly sell more. NO game can sell more consoles when there are no more consoles to sell.

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#49 lord_aquinas
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[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

laughingman42

I'm a gamer. so how is my credibility any less than yours?

Other reviewers arent gamers? I'm not a gamer? the majority of people on GS arent gamers? well you are wrong about that one too.

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#50 LegendofNerd
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Poor young TC. His thread promised so much yet delivered so little.