I wish Halo Reach and GT 5 would release on the same day to confirm sales King

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...lightleggy

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Even though I'm not arguing Halos selling rate, I am curious to find out where you got those ODST day one sales.FIipMode

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

and I dont know why you are so surprised...its a halo game

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

lightleggy

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

crusadernm

GT3 launched when PS2 install base was less than 10 mils and it managed to sell 15 mils units overtime.

Then why does GT 4 have lower sales with 140 million install base.

Exactly and if you look at it now GT5 is in the same position as GT3 its the first full GT game this generation but right now PS3 got almost 4X the install base of PS2 install base when GT3 launched and thats why many people expect it to be a big seller, i don't expect it to break GT3 record but i think it will very close behind it.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Sales king is Wii Play

A competition between Halo Reach and GT5 would prove nothing especially given that they're different genres.

crusadernm

I said this holiday season. It would determine which game is more popular.

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...Anjunaddict

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

its doesnt matter if they relese the same day or not because gt5 will outsell haloreach no matter what. gt5 will have a huger sales than haloreach in 24 hours, gt5 will outsell haloreach in total in their life span, gt5 will outsell haloreach in npd gt5 will outsell haloreach in europe gt5 will outsell haloreach in japan gt5 will outsell haloreach worldwide imho no matter what plus gt5 graphics is better and more people will be onine for gt5 everyday than haloreach

_SWAG_

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

SkaRy_RuLeZ

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

Prologue probably had more content than ODST, for a reduced price :P

Anyway, that wasn't my point, my point was that Reach will outsell ODST, not that Reach will definitely outsell GT5. Oh, and Halo 3 has actually sold over 11 million.

And I feel sorry for GT gamers. They could have it so much better if they just picked up Forza

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

SkaRy_RuLeZ

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

I think that he has something to say about that

check your "facts" next time pls

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

lightleggy

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

I think that he has something to say about that

[Pic of fail game snipped]

check your "facts" next time pls

The only confirmed value is 8.1 million, any more than that is pure speculation

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

:roll: So GT gamers are better than Halo gamers. Ive heard it all now. Difference is, ODST was a full priced expansion which stopped a lot of people from buying it. Prologue wasn't full priced. Reach will sell much more than ODST.

Anjunaddict

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

Prologue probably had more content than ODST, for a reduced price :P

Anyway, that wasn't my point, my point was that Reach will outsell ODST, not that Reach will definitely outsell GT5. Oh, and Halo 3 has actually sold over 11 million.

And I feel sorry for GT gamers. They could have it so much better if they just picked up Forza

That's like saying Halo players would have it much better if they just picked up Killzone. Wait, that's not right, since they would actually have it much better. My bad. Replace killzone with bioshock 2 or something.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I think that he has something to say about that

[Pic of fail game snipped]

check your "facts" next time pls

The only confirmed value is 8.1 million, any more than that is pure speculation

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

I think that he has something to say about that

[Pic of fail game snipped]

check your "facts" next time pls

Microsoft1234

The only confirmed value is 8.1 million, any more than that is pure speculation

Because the confirmed value is 8.1 million? I like to use value's coming from the publishers, not crap like VGChartz. For all I know every GT game may have sold more than 15 million copies, and I could just replace the 10 in the sentence with 15, but since the confirmed value of GT2 is just above 10 million, that's what I used.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I think that he has something to say about that

[Pic of fail game snipped]

check your "facts" next time pls

The only confirmed value is 8.1 million, any more than that is pure speculation

I say ultimately it doesn't matter which one gets more sales, though I'm banking on GT5 winning. Reach will get fewer sales that Halo 3, but more than ODST...if it was titled Halo 4 we'd be talking 10m+ easily but since were not GT5 should have the edge.

its doesnt matter if they relese the same day or not because gt5 will outsell haloreach no matter what. gt5 will have a huger sales than haloreach in 24 hours, gt5 will outsell haloreach in total in their life span, gt5 will outsell haloreach in npd gt5 will outsell haloreach in europe gt5 will outsell haloreach in japan gt5 will outsell haloreach worldwide imho no matter what plus gt5 graphics is better and more people will be onine for gt5 everyday than haloreach

_SWAG_

Will GT5 outsell Halo Reach in America...the largest gaming market in the world?:P

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

its doesnt matter if they relese the same day or not because gt5 will outsell haloreach no matter what. gt5 will have a huger sales than haloreach in 24 hours, gt5 will outsell haloreach in total in their life span, gt5 will outsell haloreach in npd gt5 will outsell haloreach in europe gt5 will outsell haloreach in japan gt5 will outsell haloreach worldwide imho no matter what plus gt5 graphics is better and more people will be onine for gt5 everyday than haloreach

TacticalDesire

Will GT5 outsell Halo Reach in America...the largest gaming market in the world?:P

Who cares if it is outsold 60 to 40 in america if it goes on to sell 7 to 3 in europe and 9 to 1 in japan?

Does it even matter when Mario Kart has like 20 million units sold,probably outselling both Halo and GT5 combined.

sales king....really....

and from reading 7 posts down, it's sales king of holiday 2010?:?

c'mon...what is really the point of it. pretty ridiculous.

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I have both consoles and won't be getting either game.

Oh and I have numbers too! but mine aren't baised or fanboyish.

No GT game was ever released on a platform with less than 102 million consoles sold. I sure hope with that much of an install base they could sell 10 million copies of even crappy games.

Let's use history, percentages and statistics shall we?

Doing this we can estimate that GT5 will sell around 4 million copies, about 10% of the PS3s install base.

Halo Reach will sell around 8 million copies, about 25% of the 360s install base.

This is what history shows and of course my estimates could be off by a few million here and there but I don't see a point in you comparing a game like GT4 that has been out for 5 years with 120 million consoles and sold 10+mil copies to Halo 3 that is just coming up on it's 2nd year with 40mil consoles and 10mil copies.

All you really ended up doing is making the GT franchise not seem as popular when only 10% of console owners are buying the games.

Do you like apples? If so, how do you like those apples? Boo-Ya!

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Even though I'm not arguing Halos selling rate, I am curious to find out where you got those ODST day one sales.FIipMode

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

Well ODST didn't sell 1 million in a day. It was actually 2 million....

http://www.thegameraccess.com/news/360/halo-3-odst-sells-2-million-at-launch

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

Prologue probably had more content than ODST, for a reduced price :P

Anyway, that wasn't my point, my point was that Reach will outsell ODST, not that Reach will definitely outsell GT5. Oh, and Halo 3 has actually sold over 11 million.

And I feel sorry for GT gamers. They could have it so much better if they just picked up Forza

That's like saying Halo players would have it much better if they just picked up Killzone. Wait, that's not right, since they would actually have it much better. My bad. Replace killzone with bioshock 2 or something.

Except its not, because Halo 3 is better than Killzone :)

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

KaoSXFACTOR

Well ODST didn't sell 1 million in a day. It was actually 2 million....

http://www.thegameraccess.com/news/360/halo-3-odst-sells-2-million-at-launch

Your source links back to vgchartz, and we all know how unreliable their numbers are. Does anyone have an official press release from MS after ODST's release? They would have been praising the game to high heaven if it did 2M sales first day.

Also calling GT5 prologue a demo is laughable. It had nearly as many cars and options as some full priced racing games. Man you guys get crazy with the fanboy stuff to try and win your point with unrealistic statements.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

KaoSXFACTOR

Well ODST didn't sell 1 million in a day. It was actually 2 million....

http://www.thegameraccess.com/news/360/halo-3-odst-sells-2-million-at-launch

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.crusadernm

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

True, but I'm getting Reach and not GT5, I don't need another overhyped racing series game.

Espada12

I dunno man if I had to choose between the overhyped FPS series and the overhyped racing one I'd go with the racing one.

you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

Kashiwaba

I expect Reach will sell better than GT5 in the US, while GT5 will (obviously) sell better than Reach in Japan. As for Europe, I couldn't really say. I know Polyphony tracks European numbers, but I'm not sure if we'll get Reach's from MS, so we'll just have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

VladJasonDrac

I have both consoles and won't be getting either game.

Oh and I have numbers too! but mine aren't baised or fanboyish.

No GT game was ever released on a platform with less than 102 million consoles sold. I sure hope with that much of an install base they could sell 10 million copies of even crappy games.

Let's use history, percentages and statistics shall we?

Doing this we can estimate that GT5 will sell around 4 million copies, about 10% of the PS3s install base.

Halo Reach will sell around 8 million copies, about 25% of the 360s install base.

This is what history shows and of course my estimates could be off by a few million here and there but I don't see a point in you comparing a game like GT4 that has been out for 5 years with 120 million consoles and sold 10+mil copies to Halo 3 that is just coming up on it's 2nd year with 40mil consoles and 10mil copies.

All you really ended up doing is making the GT franchise not seem as popular when only 10% of console owners are buying the games.

Do you like apples? If so, how do you like those apples? Boo-Ya!

Then why MGS4 outsold all the PS2 MGSs and GOW3 outsold all the PS2 GOWs == its simple PS3 is nearly piracy free while PS2 games used to be pirated like hell.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

Because being a paid demo certainly didn't hinder GT5 Prologue's sales?

No GT game ever sold less than 10 million copies.

No Halo game ever sold more than 10 million copies.

GT gamer's aren't better than Halo gamers, just... well, yes they are better.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I think that he has something to say about that

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check your "facts" next time pls

The only confirmed value is 8.1 million, any more than that is pure speculation

It would be awesome

I would go to the nearest gamestore and sit there on release day with plenty of snacks & drinks watching cows and lems going at it

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.Chutebox

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

Sales king? Are you serious?

Anyway, it wouldn't prove anything for a while to come seeing as one title might have longer legs than the other.

i just want the games to be great... dont care which one sells more..

What will happen is that Halo Reach will take America but GT5 will take Japan and Europe. At the end of the day GT5 will sell better WW and will continue with great sales whilst Reach will sell extremely well at launch, in America at least and then just stop. But the interesting thing is the 360 fans -thinking America equals WW sales- will look at NPD showing Reach with superior sales and declare victory.

There is a big difference between these two games. And I don't think Halo Reach will be a big system seller like GT5 will, though Halo Reach will probably sell more, at least over a short period. Most people that buy Halo Reach allready owns an X360, while a big number of the GT5 buyers have'nt bought a PS3 yet.

What will happen is that Halo Reach will take America but GT5 will take Japan and Europe. At the end of the day GT5 will sell better WW and will continue with great sales whilst Reach will sell extremely well at launch, in America at least and then just stop. But the interesting thing is the 360 fans -thinking America equals WW sales- will look at NPD showing Reach with superior sales and declare victory.

Swift_Boss_A

why do you care if someone even declares victory for sales king:|

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

What will happen is that Halo Reach will take America but GT5 will take Japan and Europe. At the end of the day GT5 will sell better WW and will continue with great sales whilst Reach will sell extremely well at launch, in America at least and then just stop. But the interesting thing is the 360 fans -thinking America equals WW sales- will look at NPD showing Reach with superior sales and declare victory.

HavocV3

why do you care if someone even declares victory for sales king:|

I don't care, I'll be too busy playing GT5 but this what Im expecting from SW.

i wish it would happen today cause its so clear that Halo reach will beat GT5 in the sales department. the delusion

[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Prologue probably had more content than ODST, for a reduced price :P

Anyway, that wasn't my point, my point was that Reach will outsell ODST, not that Reach will definitely outsell GT5. Oh, and Halo 3 has actually sold over 11 million.

And I feel sorry for GT gamers. They could have it so much better if they just picked up Forza

Anjunaddict

That's like saying Halo players would have it much better if they just picked up Killzone. Wait, that's not right, since they would actually have it much better. My bad. Replace killzone with bioshock 2 or something.

Except its not, because Halo 3 is better than Killzone :)

No..

Online yes off line not even close.

Hang on what? why are we comparing sales between a FPS and a Racing sim?

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

[/QUOT

Everyone seems to forget ps2's user base vs ps3's user base. your talking 120 million vs 40 million