I fly like paper, get high like planes.

I'm tired of always being the good guy in games...

Why not have a game where you're the terrorists and you get to do some crazy **** like blow up the WTC....or do other terror related activities?

I'm tired of being the US Marine killing terrorists, I want to be the bad guys killing the marines...is that too much to ask for?

Just like with WW2 games, playing as the Nazi's would be highly controversial and I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't make games like that.

Although I wouldn't mind a few myself.
Saturos3091

I think it'd be a nice change for once...play as the losing side...they could really make a good story of some kid who's fighting with the Nazi's but doesn't want to, and sees all his comrades get killed, like idk they could make a good story i think.

Many games allow you to be bad; Fable you can become evil and there are plenty of others. But I'm sure you know that so are you talking about like the full game? Maybe a Star Wars: Republic Commando 2 where you go off and execute Order 66?

I think it would be cool to pull a "Dark Knight."

[spoiler] In the movie "The Dark Knight," Batman must turn against the SWAT team to save the hostages. From there, the events lead to him being the ones the cops are going to be chasing. [/spoiler]

I think it would be cool to do that due to story reasons instead of just choice.

GTA? Kane & Lynch?BioShockOwnz

I'll give you GTA, Kane and Lynch is a joke.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Just like with WW2 games, playing as the Nazi's would be highly controversial and I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't make games like that.

Although I wouldn't mind a few myself.
Adonymous

I think it'd be a nice change for once...play as the losing side...they could really make a good story of some kid who's fighting with the Nazi's but doesn't want to, and sees all his comrades get killed, like idk they could make a good story i think.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]GTA? Kane & Lynch?Adonymous

I'll give you GTA, Kane and Lynch is a joke.

The gameplay isn't great, but you get to play as 2 of the most evil and mean people ever!

you want to blow up the world trade center in a game? seriously? please tell me youre kidding. i wouldnt mind a game where youre a terrorist thats entirely fictional but have some decency herefinal_fortress

yeah, i guess your character can't exactly escape from that situation, unless they had it like in CoD 4 where the guy doesn't survive.

If they made a game where you blew up WTC I think the entire world would ban video games lol.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]GTA? Kane & Lynch?BioShockOwnz

I'll give you GTA, Kane and Lynch is a joke.

The gameplay isn't great, but you get to play as 2 of the most evil and mean people ever!

I thought the game was great, especially if you're tired of being the nice guy in games.

Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|Ninja-Hippo

Ohh like you haven't killed civilians in other WWII Games...also Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hi.

I agree with final_fortress. I had a hard time playing through Kane & Lynch, and it wasn't because of the gameplay, but the characters were so despicable. BioShockOwnz

That's actually one of the reasons I liked the game so much.

I thought that it would be good in R6V if you could take over the Las Vegas strip with the other hundreds of goons... Shoot through, kill swat, loot the vaults.

Sounds fun to begin with.

Hitman is also a good game where you play a criminal.Doctor-Salvador

Yes but in all these games your doing stuff for yourself, I want a full-scale war game where you're the bad guys.

I guess RTS's do an ok job, but you don't get the story.

It sucks how movies about 9/11 like World Trade Center are praised, while there would be outright condemnation for a videogame that showed it being hit let alone had you be a catalyst of it.luckystar23

america: The country of double-standards.

check out defcon, everyone is a bad guy in a world nuclear war.

otherwise, counter strike is as close as you can get.

Isnt there a game where you get assassinate JFK? Jakendo

yeah, and for obvious reasons (the size and content) it's freeware.

Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|Ninja-Hippo

It's a legitimate question of an artist. Video games are art, so why can we not simulate the darker side of the equation? Typically because stores would boycott it, and it would be a financial disaster - but if we say we're for freedom of speech, then we have to allow it, even for things that are offensive.

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That's not to say I would want a 9-11 game, frankly I think it would be exploitive of the situation, but it does bring up an interesting point, where is the dark side to gaming content? Where is the WW2 game depicting the struggle of Nazi youth? It seems in fanatasy situations (Force Unleashed) we're comfortable with being "dark side", but in real world situations it hits too close to home.

Just like with WW2 games, playing as the Nazi's would be highly controversial and I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't make games like that.

Although I wouldn't mind a few myself.
Saturos3091

Aren't you the bad guy in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed?DireOwl

like I said on page 1...

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|subrosian

It's a legitimate question of an artist. Video games are art, so why can we not simulate the darker side of the equation? Typically because stores would boycott it, and it would be a financial disaster - but if we say we're for freedom of speech, then we have to allow it, even for things that are offensive.

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That's not to say I would want a 9-11 game, frankly I think it would be exploitive of the situation, but it does bring up an interesting point, where is the dark side to gaming content? Where is the WW2 game depicting the struggle of Nazi youth? It seems in fanatasy situations (Force Unleashed) we're comfortable with being "dark side", but in real world situations it hits too close to home.

you take everything I want to say, and make it make sense and good.

I'm tired of always being the good guy in games...

Why not have a game where you're the terrorists and you get to do some crazy **** like blow up the WTC....or do other terror related activities?

I'm tired of being the US Marine killing terrorists, I want to be the bad guys killing the marines...is that too much to ask for?

Adonymous

To the terrorists, the US Marines are the bad guys. So in a way you've been playing as the bad guys all along.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

I'm tired of always being the good guy in games...

Why not have a game where you're the terrorists and you get to do some crazy **** like blow up the WTC....or do other terror related activities?

I'm tired of being the US Marine killing terrorists, I want to be the bad guys killing the marines...is that too much to ask for?

bearbones

To the terrorists, the US Marines are the bad guys. So in a way you've been playing as the bad guys all along.

Also there is the insurgency mod for source engine that is marines vs terrorists and its very realistic. Sortta feels weird when you kill a marine because it seems a little real.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Just like with WW2 games, playing as the Nazi's would be highly controversial and I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't make games like that.

Although I wouldn't mind a few myself.
mo0ksi

*cough*

bad guy is a opinion

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Just like with WW2 games, playing as the Nazi's would be highly controversial and I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't make games like that.

Although I wouldn't mind a few myself.
mo0ksi

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|Adonymous

Ohh like you haven't killed civilians in other WWII Games...also Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hi.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|DivergeUnify

Ohh like you haven't killed civilians in other WWII Games...also Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hi.

Nor have they been depicted in any game, so I don't know what the hell that was supposed to prove.

I'm tired of always being the good guy in games...

Why not have a game where you're the terrorists and you get to do some crazy **** like blow up the WTC....or do other terror related activities?

I'm tired of being the US Marine killing terrorists, I want to be the bad guys killing the marines...is that too much to ask for?

Adonymous

!. quoting MIA dsnt make you kewl...

2. what kinda of american dev would make a game that would allow you to kill americans? lol...

as for being the evil of a game, most games allow for multiple factions, example starcraft lets you play the "zerg"

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Blowing up the WTC? You want to murder civilians en masse? :|Verge_6

Ohh like you haven't killed civilians in other WWII Games...also Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hi.

Nor have they been depicted in any game, so I don't know what the hell that was supposed to prove.

bad guy is a opinion

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter

alexmurray

The world isn't that black & white - it's idiotic to divide the world into "freedom fighters" and "terrorists". Frankly, that's why someone should have the guts to do a WW2 game depicting the struggle of German youth. What's it like to live with that sort of nationalism, that sort of propaganda and pride? What was it like conquering countries, fighting the allies, and watching the war machine? What of the technological revolutions we still owe Germany for, from the Nazi era?

WW2 was a horrific time, we made incredible gains in psychology, psychiatry, physiology, physics at the cost of human life and the very humanity we attest for fight for - it's such a common game, and theme because the Nazi regime was committing attrocities that were so obviously evil - and perhaps why it's so rare to tell the story from the other side.

We have "evil" in gaming but it's most fantasy evil - it's rarely the nitty-gritty real life sort of evil. The sort of "Walmart converts 10,000 full-time employees to part-time employees" grey area evil of the real world. That stuff happens and no one blinks and eye - so maybe there should be a game that makes that sort of evil more apparent - instead of the over-the-top violence and fantasy "muahaha Satan is eating puppies" evil, why not have a game that showcases the subtle evils, the ill-defined choices of the real world?

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

I'm tired of always being the good guy in games...

Why not have a game where you're the terrorists and you get to do some crazy **** like blow up the WTC....or do other terror related activities?

I'm tired of being the US Marine killing terrorists, I want to be the bad guys killing the marines...is that too much to ask for?

zomgwtfbbqlol1

!. quoting MIA dsnt make you kewl...

2. what kinda of american dev would make a game that would allow you to kill americans? lol...

as for being the evil of a game, most games allow for multiple factions, example starcraft lets you play the "zerg"

But starcraft is fake and not going to stir up controversy and a RTS when you can always almost be evil. I would mind being the Nazis in a campaign mode on a FPS not just online

Nor have they been depicted in any game, so I don't know what the hell that was supposed to prove.

DivergeUnify

Actually, the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings WERE for the sake of the fear. We had to scare the Japanese into surrendering so a fullblown invasion of Japan could be avoided. So, one could say the bombings occured to save lives, both American and Japanese, which the WTC bombings cannot claim.