I don't understand how people can say XBL is more lag-free than PSN or Wii

The vast majority of games on Xbox live are Peer-to-peer connection games. As far as I know, Xbox 360 doesn't really have any games that use dedicated servers hostedby Microsoft.The only exception I can think of is NHL10 EASHL games, which are hosted on dedicated servers run by EA Sports. Lag online for peer to peer connection games has nothing to do with Xbox Live, but is dependant on the internet connection of whoever is hosting the game.

So unless you are comparing dedicated servers, you really can't say XBL is more lag-free.

People say XBL is more lag-free than PSN (also: people actually talk about the Wii's online muliplayer?)?

For PSN, I can't comment. For Wii, have you played Brawl? I'd be hard pressed to find a game on XBL that lags as much as Brawl :|Skittles_McGee

The Wii Online system is the best. It's the only system where you know you aren't playing with criminals or degenerates who you shouldn't be associating with

It is, sorry.

I experience no lag on PSN or XBL, but I do notice a major difference in DL'n content. its much faster on XBL.

It is, sorry.

Samox

How can you say that when you aren't playing on XBL? XBL doesn't have dedicated servers so you can't really say it is lag free. The only claim you can make is that XBL Users have better internet connections than PSN users

You do know that alot of PS3 games are p2p as well! Duckyindiana

Alot are, but not all. Mostly 3rd party games are P2P, with the exception of NHL10.

But many first party games are hosted on dedicated servers.

Both XBL and PSN are exactly the same. Everday I talk to 360 fanboys who go out their way to try and talk crap about about PSN like XBL is so much better, but it's really not. The Wii on the other hand is a different story.

Thats just a "fact" lemmings thought up to justify the 50$ price tag...

p2p is totaly reliant on who your playing with.

some of the worst lag I have ever experienced was on XBL. but, that's gonna happen on a peer to peer network. dedi's are so FTW.

Microsoft cant have dedicated servers because 600,000 people play halo 3, a three year old game EVERY SINGLE DAY. Its not like Killzone 2 where 4,000 people play it or uncharted 2 with like 30,000. the 360 multiplayer games are actually fun and have a **** load of players on all day. Plus even halo 2 has more players on than Killzone 2johnsonmrom

The Wii Online system is the best. It's the only system where you know you aren't playing with criminals or degenerates who you shouldn't be associating with

CammieIsWii

In terms of games, the 360 really only gets the slight head-nod in the lag-free department if your connection is good. Where the real difference lies is downloads. Download the same piece of DLC for 360 and PS3 and it will be done 50% faster on the 360. Or watch a HD netflix movie, the ps3 has been known to stop and buffer during the movie where the 360 doesnstshadow8585

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The Wii Online system is the best. It's the only system where you know you aren't playing with criminals or degenerates who you shouldn't be associating with

Ps3 cant be more lag free then xbox live so by default xbox live is more lag free. You also have to count in all those people who use wireless and lag of the games.

Games like Mario Kart Wii play at minimum or no lag. But games like COD4, Mw2 and Gears 2 lag like hell.LastRambo341

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Games like Mario Kart Wii play at minimum or no lag. But games like COD4, Mw2 and Gears 2 lag like hell.ermacness

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The Wii Online system is the best. It's the only system where you know you aren't playing with criminals or degenerates who you shouldn't be associating with

LastRambo341

from my experience on both networks, the lagging and wutnot is about the same but Xbox Live is just funner, its way more interactive with online community, even the PS3 has HOME, the loading time keeps me away from it. its much easier, faster and convinient to keep in contact with Friends on Live.

PS3 interface in general has a much sleeker modern cool clean look than Xbox 360's but that also makes it more inclosed in the way u interact which is one of the reason y Xbox's Online Community is better (In My Opinion Ofcourse)

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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Games like Mario Kart Wii play at minimum or no lag. But games like COD4, Mw2 and Gears 2 lag like hell.LastRambo341

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="ermacness"]after playing SSBB, i have to HIGHLY disagree. I rather play with the "criminals" and "degenerates" than to play online in SSBB. Man, that was one of my biggest disappointments this gen:cry:

Microsoft cant have dedicated servers because 600,000 people play halo 3, a three year old game EVERY SINGLE DAY. Its not like Killzone 2 where 4,000 people play it or uncharted 2 with like 30,000. the 360 multiplayer games are actually fun and have a **** load of players on all day. Plus even halo 2 has more players on than Killzone 2johnsonmrom

1) The number of people who play a game does not effect wether a game will have dedicated servers or not

2) If there were more than 7 games worth playing on LIVE, less people would be playing the same thing over and over again.

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]You do know that alot of PS3 games are p2p as well! CammieIsWii

Alot are, but not all. Mostly 3rd party games are P2P, with the exception of NHL10.

But many first party games are hosted on dedicated servers.

Most PS3 games are P2P. Most Xbox 360 games are P2P.

What are we discussing

A select FEW PS3 games have dedicated servers. A Select FEW 360 games have dedicated servers.

Games like Forza, left4dead 1+2, BF2, Frontlines,UT3 for the 360, and games like Killzone, SOCOM,MAG,Resistance 1+2, Warhawk,UT3

More people use Ethernet on 360 than PS3.

So I could see where some would make that argument that they are getting more stable connections. But in reality, it really depends on your network and the speed of the other players more so than the actual service. As far dedicated servers go, there are just as much client-user games on PS3 as they are on 360.

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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Don't base off the Wii's online system from a game or 2LastRambo341

Halo 3 fun? I lol'd.... to alot of people maybe, for me Id rather lick paint... not that I have... but still.Birdy09

Just because you don't think Halo 3 is fun doesn't mean that it isn't...Hell, you said you'd rather lick paint. That pretty much says it all.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="ermacness"]if it was suppose to be one of your heavily hyped games on the system to have a feature that everyone and their mother was waiting for, and the ball dropped that hard, you can

"360 only gamers" try and make it out like LIVE is worth the money and there are zero problems. Its false...I have all this gen consoles...360, PS3 and Wii. PS3 and 360 are pretty much the exact same online. Wii is..."ok". Im hoping that Nintendo steps up next gen not only with online play but games, and controller wise.

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The Wii Online system is the best. It's the only system where you know you aren't playing with criminals or degenerates who you shouldn't be associating with

Both XBL and PSN can get pretty bad lag, it just depends more on your connection. I myself cannot tell the difference between games that use dedicated servers or peer-to-peer.

from my experience i remember having lag issues with halo 3 massive 16 player matches yet no or little lag issues with resistance 2 up to 60 players

so xbox live fans enjoy your fast demo and dlc downloads while i enjoy dedicated servers on first party games (yes i know there are plenty of p2p games on ps3)

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="ermacness"]after playing SSBB, i have to HIGHLY disagree. I rather play with the "criminals" and "degenerates" than to play online in SSBB. Man, that was one of my biggest disappointments this gen:cry:

Sandvichman

Mind explaining it?

EA has dedicated servers on XBL. Bad compnay and Bad Company 2 uses them. THQ uses dedicated servers too on XBL.

It's suprising that people this day and age have no idea where lag comes from.

Most of the time you lag, it's your own fault. (Your the only one lagging)

Occasionally it's the hosts fault. (very noticible because everybody but one person is lagging)

and sometimes it's the games fault. Bad netcode. ( everybody lags always go play the darkness to see this)

They're the same lag wise, XBL's downloads are loads faster though.

More people use Ethernet on 360 than PS3.

So I could see where some would make that argument that they are getting more stable connections. But in reality, it really depends on your network and the speed of the other players more so than the actual service. As far dedicated servers go, there are just as much client-user games on PS3 as they are on 360.

Blue-Sky

Bingo, actually I would go as far as to say 95% of the time that it depends on who your playing with and your own network connection.

Funny enough, I tend to experience a great deal of lag on L4D, one of the few Xbox games with dedicated servers.