How did mario get a 9.5??????

I sorry im sure is a great (great games are supose to be 8s) but how can a game be almost perfect when it was no story at all save Peach -again!- from bowzer. its almost like your just randomly run around jumping on turtles or what ever

i have nothing against nintindo but it would be nice if they come up with new ideas instead of just reviving old ones.

I sorry im sure is a great (great games are supose to be 8s) but how can a game be almost perfect when it was no story at all save Peach -again!- from bowzer. its almost like your just randomly run around jumping on turtles or what ever

i have nothing against nintindo but it would be nice if they come up with new ideas instead of just reviving old ones.

LastRedMage

I sorry im sure is a great (great games are supose to be 8s) but how can a game be almost perfect when it was no story at all save Peach -again!- from bowzer. its almost like your just randomly run around jumping on turtles or what ever

i have nothing against nintindo but it would be nice if they come up with new ideas instead of just reviving old ones.

LastRedMage

You don't play a Mario game for a story :?

i have nothing against nintindo but it would be nice if they come up with new ideas instead of just reviving old ones.

LastRedMage

:|.......You didn't play the game....did you?

Please go play the game. There is nothing else that can be said because argueing on this would be pointless with the lack of knowledge on this superb game.

OMG a Mario game with little to no story..... I guess ur right it must suck.... now if I could only get all the time back that Ispent enjoying myself whilst playing Mario, Sonic, Geometry Wars, Double Dragon, Burnout: Revenge, SSX etc. They were all obviously sucky games due to lack of a story.

Just about every other site has given it 9.5 or better. Doesn't need story to be good.dragonball3900

ratings are worped and need to be rethought

[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]Just about every other site has given it 9.5 or better. Doesn't need story to be good.LastRedMage

ratings aremessed upand need to be re-thought

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

[QUOTE="LastRedMage"]

[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]Just about every other site has given it 9.5 or better. Doesn't need story to be good.LastRedMage

ratings aremessed upand need to be re-thought

Since when has story EVER been important in a platformer? Especially in a mario game?

I sorry im sure is a great (great games are supose to be 8s) but how can a game be almost perfect when it was no story at all save Peach -again!- from bowzer. its almost like your just randomly run around jumping on turtles or what ever

i have nothing against nintindo but it would be nice if they come up with new ideas instead of just reviving old ones.

LastRedMage

Mario games don't need a big story to be good. But if you want to play a Mario game with a fun story, try the Paper Marios.

Also, there is a back story to Rosalina and the observatory... so it isn't just "save Peach from Bowser". :P

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

blahzor

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

blahzor

[QUOTE="blahzor"]

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

LastRedMage

[QUOTE="blahzor"]

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

LastRedMage

have you played this game?
Despite it using mario and the princess captured story, Mario Galaxy is probably the most original game of the year(yes, it stands up to portal, and imo surpasses it in this category).

Really, the gameplay in this game is incredible and the level design is brilliant as well as being original.

In fact, if you read the gamespot review for this game Alex makes a really nice point. The beauty of this game is that it doesn't need mario to be brilliant. You could pretty much throw together any random set of characters and this game would still be amazing.

Deep character development is not needed in games! These are not books or even movies, don't hold them to these standards. Games are about gameplay first! But again, my original post still stands.. mario's story is fantastic becasue his journey is so unique and incredible!

[QUOTE="blahzor"]

What happened to games being about fun?

Anyways, story isn't just about dialogue and character development.. it's about the characters adventure too. Mario doesn't have much in the way of plot twists or deep character development(in this platformer), but it has alot of charm. Bowser kidnapping the princess is not original on paper, but in this game its done with charm. You want to advance, you want to face bowser as he's more menacing and amazing then he has ever been! But where mario really shines is the extraordinary locales he vists, its his journey that is the real story here. Mario's adventure is colourful and full of imagination, that's his story.. ANd it's imaginative and brilliant.

THen there's the side story of Rosalina and the luma's, an optional story you can either pass or view by going to the library.

LastRedMage

Thats just your opinion, but games that have been made say otherwise. I'm guessing you want Tetris to have a story as well?

No offense, but really, EVERYTHING matters. I mean, really. You can't have a game with the best plot ever but no level design! That's called a book. You can't have a game with excellent level design & no plot! That's called a floorplan. So let's get back to what matters. Does Mario really deserve a 9.5 or not?theoracleofgame

yes there shouldnt be so many 9+ games and 7 should not be 'bad' 7 should be good,

5 is averageif there are no averge games then somone needs to rethink the system cause avrage means that equalamount of games score above and below it.

[QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="blahzor"]

Ramadear

Thats just your opinion, but games that have been made say otherwise. I'm guessing you want Tetris to have a story as well?

Its pure funmurat8

Yeah....it's fun. You remember what that's like right? Playing a fun game? Not a broody, post-apacalyptic bloody dark mess game, but a fun, happy, wonderous game. Man I love fun.

Yes, the gameplay is always first, but you can't just have no plot. There is a plot (big surprise, save peach from bowser) but it lacks the originality and depth that truly make a game superb!! Mario deserves 8.8 or someting around those lines as long as someone realizes that Mario can't run on the same plot again and again! What's next, bowser stomps into a quantum pit with peach or bowser holds peach hostage in Japan!?theoracleofgame

Yes you can. A story is never required. What if halo came out as a multi-player only game? Would that make the multi-player worth "less" due to lack of story?

No where in the definition of a game is story mentioned anywhere. Would tetris be any more perfect with a story?

Yes, the gameplay is always first, but you can't just have no plot. There is a plot (big surprise, save peach from bowser) but it lacks the originality and depth that truly make a game superb!! Mario deserves 8.8 or someting around those lines as long as someone realizes that Mario can't run on the same plot again and again! What's next, bowser stomps into a quantum pit with peach or bowser holds peach hostage in Japan!?theoracleofgame

I highly doubt that you've even played SMG and I dont think you understand the premise behind Mario. There has never been a story nor will there need to be one, the fact of the matter is that a game can thrive in itself while missing a certain component. in SMG's case its the story, and now you come along saying that it needs a story to be perfect? Have you even played any of the past Marios?

You're not comparing Mario to the industry today but you're comparing the industry to Mario. And if you look at Gamerankings the top two games on the list are Mario and Zelda. Both of which are games that use the same basic premise in their respective series. There is a reason why they are up there and neither of those series need to modernize themselves by bringing their series' down to the level of the rest of the industry.

OK, I admit that games don't neccesarily need a plot. But really, does Tetris need a plot? No. You're just moving around blocks with different variations. But for something as long running as Mario... that's a different story. theoracleofgame

No not really. You start a level, you jump holes and beat enemies, you beat a boss, repeat. Does a platformer really need more than that?

Mario Galaxy does not focus on the extras. It just has the best levels, the best holes, the best eneimes, and the best bosses. It takes the very definition of a platformer and perfects it.

Platformers aren't really about story. They're more about the level design and platforming aspect. SaintBlaze

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]Platformers aren't really about story. They're more about the level design and platforming aspect. curono

Add a lot of racing games to that list. Like 'Forza 2', arguably the best racer in this next gen and there is no story to be seen. Also the next major racer 'GT' will have no story either, will probably score in the 9's as well. The story is only relevant if that's what the game was designed for. Mario achieves what is was designed for and does it better than any other platformer out there...ever.

While I don't think Mario deserves the high ratings it recieves (I strongly believe that most of the postitive feedback is due to the mixture of a nastalgic character and themes mixed with a new setting and game-play mechanic), it definitely is not because of the plot.

Mario is a very fun game. Notice the key word there? Fun. As in, it's fun to play. For this reason, Mario does not need a plot to keep the player enticed and coming back for more. They never feel the need to rush to find out what happens next. Hell, they may even go back and play somemore when they're finished.

It's not because they want to reach the maximum level or get that unattainable weapon. No... it's because they get such enjoyment and entertainment from the game, that the biggest reward they get is being able to play the game itself. No plot or story device can change that.

A high amount of games have little or no plot. The games that do have plot, though, are exceptionaltheoracleofgame

Your trying to argue opinion. Just because you don't regard games with no plot as exceptional doesn't mean others won't. I for one find SMG to be an exceptional game.